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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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cola said:
Do you think that ketamine is addictive , and have any of you long time k users ever experience a second day paranoia, delusional thoughts, headaches, dizziness, extreme confusion,cloudiness in thinking, mild depression , extreme anxiety and craving? Any of these, cause i don't know, maybe it's just me but i think it does have lingering after effects out of the normal (normal meaning like lingering visuals, and tiredness or such) and that it might be at least minimally physically addictive/easy to get used to...especially cause from what i know it bind to opiate receptors...
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Ketamine is extremely addictive but it seams like it's only addictive to a third of its users. I used meth for 7-8 months on a daily, almost hourly basis, then meth + herioin for 3-4 of those last months, along with pretty heavy cocaine use. I quit all that crap without to much hassle, not too bad of cravings. Ketamine on the other hand totally caught me off guard. It's been about 14 months since I've last abused K (I still use, but responsibly and sparingly) and I still have hard cravings that will keep me up at night.

The day after effects depend on the brand of K. Where are you located? Half the brands leave no lingering next day effects for me while the other half can be pretty heavy. If I use K just one night a month then I'm generally in an uplifted mood for the week. On the other hand if I use it a few nights in a roe or massive amounts then I'm extremely depressed the following day and usually throughout the week. All brands of K will cause the depression for me. The only other day after effects I get is disconnected from reality and dizziness but only with a few brands. Driving is fine but I have to pay more attention. Checking my blind spot or looking both ways before crossing the street makes me very dizzy.
 
^ Well the worst brand of ketamine i had was Ketaminol, and the best hmm...it's a 25ml bottle no tag, just made in holland, and my usual pretty strong and good Calypsol...
And i figured out why i was feeling so bad, ketamine in a heroin wd is not a good ideea cause it kinda prolongues the wd, altough it makes it more mellow and bearable, doing big amounts of (IM) ketamine in a horoin wd is not a good ideea.Besides it is addictive psychologically, but if i use once in a while it's ok...
Besides, i love ketamine...ps ....sorry for the bad ideea positioning or smth just a little smoked now ... :D
 
As far as I know the great majority of pharmaceutical ketamine brands consist of equal measures of the R and S isomers of ketamine--and ketamine, is ketamine. I've heard of one brand that contains a preservative called benzethonium. So long as the mg/mL is constant, only the preservative and the isomer ratio should impact your experience. But most brands are chemically the same.

In the past I've heard dealers saying brand x is strong, and brand y is shit. Guess what brand they were selling? Your experiences with different brands most likely owe to the power of suggestion, selective memory, and the natural variance between the same ketamine doses--and just maybe actives in cut product.
 
KinkyKetter said:
I've had five different kinds of K as of now and it has always been white.
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there was ALOT of blue K in 06'. the crystals were blue due to transportation across country lines. 8o

it was still good ol' ketamine!!!
 
swilow said:
^How does that turn crystals blue as such?
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Do you REALLY want me to explain how to smuggle drugs into the country? %)

think of what could possibly need to be blue, and wouldn't be searched crossing the border from Mexico to the US. It REALLY obvious if you think about it. ;)
 
psood0nym said:
As far as I know the great majority of pharmaceutical ketamine brands consist of equal measures of the R and S isomers of ketamine--and ketamine, is ketamine. I've heard of one brand that contains a preservative called benzethonium. So long as the mg/mL is constant, only the preservative and the isomer ratio should impact your experience. But most brands are chemically the same.

In the past I've heard dealers saying brand x is strong, and brand y is shit. Guess what brand they were selling? Your experiences with different brands most likely owe to the power of suggestion, selective memory, and the natural variance between the same ketamine doses--and just maybe actives in cut product.
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The last two years I've gotten my K from either friends who are chemists or from veterinarian offices so there has never been a sales pitch or power of suggestion.

I've been able to feel obvious differences between some brands but if you were to give me K from any of my three better known brands I could tell you which one it was. As for the other two brands I’ve tried I could tell you which one of three it could be and possible figure it out.
 
^Ok. I'm just repeating what's been told to many posters before you and makes sense, and seems like the simplest explanation, to me. If you get an opportunity, ask the veterinarians or chemists what--given that the majority of brands have the same isomer ratio (AFAIK), lack any psychoactive preservatives, and have the same concentration--would make for a discernible difference between all these different brands you've tried of the same concentration of ketamine. Then let us know what they say. Or you could set up a double-blind experiment and find out for yourself. Who says science can't be fun?

Also, ask them if they know if all the assumptions above are true--as has been claimed.
 
psood0nym said:
^Ok. I'm just repeating what's been told to many posters before you and makes sense, and seems like the simplest explanation, to me. If you get an opportunity, ask the veterinarians or chemists what--given that the majority of brands have the same isomer ratio (AFAIK), lack any psychoactive preservatives, and have the same concentration--would make for a discernible difference between all these different brands you've tried of the same concentration of ketamine. Then let us know what they say. Or you could set up a double-blind experiment and find out for yourself. Who says science can't be fun?
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Ohhh I would love to do that, would be fun, but I hardly use anymore so I'd rather keep my mind on the trip. Some of the brands just simply linger longer than others. The differences are hardly noticeable but most people in my state can tell a difference between the two most popular brands we have.
 
cola said:
and have any of you long time k users ever experience a second day paranoia, delusional thoughts, headaches, dizziness, extreme confusion,cloudiness in thinking, mild depression , extreme anxiety and craving?
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hey I wouldn't consider myself a longtime K head, but if I take a lot in one night I'll wake up the next day in a slightly manic/schizoid phase. I'll spend the day hyper-excited about things, yell/sing loudly (lol), jump around, etc. Its like I revert to being a little kid and can't really control myself (unless I concentrate on it).
 
Has anyone K-hole'd from drinking it? What was it like for you?

I came damn close once. I was getting a tattoo around my ribs and hip bones and needed something to relaxed. Plus it took around 6 hours. All I had was a huge bottled of liquid K that I had just picked up, no needles, and no time to dry it out. So I just took a couple swigs, anywhere from 500-2000mgs worth. This was when I had a decent tolerance too. It was weird but I can't comment much cuz while I was waiting for it to kick in hard a friend brought me a needle so I IM'd a tad to get me where I needed to be faster.

If my cheap K source comes back around I will be experimenting with plugging and drinking K little by little as I do K which shouldn’t be more often than once a month.
 
Gaian Planes said:
no more than once a month eh? You're a good (wo)man if you can keep it to that when you have a supply (I sure as hell cannot).
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Well I try. I have a wonderfull girlfriend to help. I don't have a supply currently and last time I did my gf was out of town and it turned bad. K will always have me by the balls. I could go out and get it any time of day though but I can always keep myself from that...it's just when it's on hand that can get hard.
 
I ate like 750mg of crystal and holed like a motha fucker. I was stumbling down the street to go see my buddies band play, this crack dealer pulled me into an ally and was trying to push his bell ringer on me and I just meowed at him talking gibberish about how I already had my bells rung. He had NO IDEA what was going on.. neither did I. then I grew a tail and lost it, when I got to the show and sat down is when I really went into the hole. somehow I got in without paying and was just to fucked up to do anything but sit down and listen to my reality shutter around and around while I got those chopped and screwed visuals.


then I realized you can get there alot cheaper by just dumping like a tenth of that amount into your veins over and over again and you get awesome rush to go along with it.



I actually think next weekend I'm going to go through 1-1.5g of some Rotex Kizzle. Just me and my needle in closed room. I'll do it after my NA meeting and have some 1200 micrograms blaring into my ears.

after going through this thread I realized thats JUST what I need to get me out of this funk. using opiates to change the way I feel is stupid, I need ketamine to change the way I "THINK".
 
I find I do it every night at around 50-100mg if I have it around, never fails. I just can't resist once work is finished to get a little fuzzy headed on it. This keeps up until I run out of stuff. I never get out of control with it (like binging), but its this constant/steady use that really wears me down (I feel like an idiot, cognitively, after a week or so of that). I also notice slight speech impediments and a worrisome mounting difficulty with both short and long-term memory.
 
Gaian Planes said:
I find I do it every night at around 50-100mg if I have it around, never fails. I just can't resist once work is finished to get a little fuzzy headed on it. This keeps up until I run out of stuff. I never get out of control with it (like binging), but its this constant/steady use that really wears me down (I feel like an idiot, cognitively, after a week or so of that).
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I'm definitely a binge'er. thats why I will only have 30ml/3 vials of the stuff. Im guessing I will PROB do it all as soon as its in my possession. but I was smart enough to only acquire a small amount. This is my preemptive strike on my own behavior. Thinking ahead of time, before I throw everything away on it like I have before.

those that have seen me and ketamine in action should be able to tell that this isn't alot for me, and should feed me just perfectly.
 
i try to get ahold of a quarter G every 3-4 months. I think that use is OK...but it still doesn't sit well with me. Its like 'feeding the beast' inside of me...placating the beast, maybe. man but I'm SO excited to do some ketamine again though soonish :D its such a fucking good feeling.
 
Gaian Planes said:
no more than once a month eh? You're a good (wo)man if you can keep it to that when you have a supply (I sure as hell cannot).
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I've given up any pretence of controlled use when it's in my grubby mitts, which is why I go for control over use at the buying stage; if I buy 1g, I'll do in 1 g, If I buy 7g, then 7g will get consumed in one long binge

You can't imagine the surprise when I find a vial that I've actually forgotten I had =D
 
oh man its up there with one of my most euphoric non-inebriated states of consciousness when I found a tenth or so a couple weeks after a long binge on the stuff...i was just SO happy to have found that little baggie. cut it up and snorted it RIGHT AWAY!
 
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