The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

[Jabberwocky]

I agree ketamine is highly anti-anxiolytic for me at k-hole doses (only k-holed twice though and have only gone through maybe a dozen grams of k total in my life).

However, at sub k-hole doses I notice a little anxiety if I am around people on it who don't approve of my drug use (this does not happen at like low 25-30mg doses but rather manifests at that weird halfway zone of 45ish milligrams).

MMMMmmmmm I would love some K now

I promised myself a couple months ago I wouldn't use until the semester is opver (its almost over!).

 

[Youkai]

From my personal experiences K is more confusing than scary. To me scary implies dark thoughts and terror. Confusion is different from frightened/ scared.

I have recently witnessed several high dose IM/IV Ket. trips by a friend and he seems to always say "what the fuck is going on?" looks confused and scared at times, but when he comes out of it he always is content with the trip. The higher the dose and the method of consumption definitely affect the "scariness or confusion" of a K trip.

but thast also because its un messured. he has sense found some realy good places that arnta s confusing.

 

[deemster.teamster]

I got scared only the first time I railed K. I wasn't completely in the hole though.

I had read a lot about K prior to the experience and had tried other dissociatives like salvia and nitrous, but none of this adequately prepared me for the experience. It felt like blacking out or fainting at first, with my vision darkening in the periphery and moving in, everything becoming a miniscule point in the distance. Contrasted with fainting, though, I was awake through all of this and became very confused and started to panic. I thought that I'd taken too much and was gonna sink into a coma or worse, which is ridiculous.

In retrospect I think I became so disoriented because I didn't expect it to so closely resemble a fainting spell. But after having been there, it's much easier to "go with it."

 

[*Love*Lite*]

but thast also because its un messured. he has sense found some realy good places that arnta s confusing.

we gota get you a scale friend

 

[Youkai]

we gota get you a scale friend

even when scales are at ahand, its just FUNNER to shovle a bunch of crystals intoa shot galss and dip into teh founatin of youth.




but yueah, its ahrd to relay how much for people to udnertsand whats needed.

 

[VerbalTruist]

Ok here's what happens at mid range doses of oh lets say 120 mg nasally I get very confused and for me confusion=fear. I feel out of place and not right. Its the warping of sounds and the fact that you feel so removed.

Any thoughts?

Also, is there any risk that I would stop breathing? I feel like thats possible.

God I feel like such a noob.

 

[Jabberwocky]

youkai you should be filtering your ketamine through a wheel filter to get rid of bacteria, etc.

EN, are you sure your ketamine is good/uncut?

ketamine is really good about not suppressing breathing (as long as you're not mixing it with other downers).

 

[Wakarimasen]

Ok here's what happens at mid range doses of oh lets say 120 mg nasally I get very confused and for me confusion=fear. I feel out of place and not right. Its the warping of sounds and the fact that you feel so removed.

Any thoughts?

Also, is there any risk that I would stop breathing? I feel like thats possible.

God I feel like such a noob.

I wouldn't have thought 120 mg was a mid dose for most people... tolerance/impurity a factor there?

Maybe it's just me, but I find the familiar feelings of K-space: loss of perspective, time and certain sound frequencies, quite reassuring. It's almost like meeting an old friend.

Once you know what to expect, there shouldn't be as much confusion. Although of course regardless of the sensory mix up, you still get confusion with K. That's part and parcel of the experience - losing thought processes halfway through, having no idea what (X) object is or does, etc.

AFAIK K is very safe with regards to the CNS system and breathing, as long as it's not mixed with alcohol?

 

[VerbalTruist]

I dried it from a solution I'm just paranoid about the breathing because... well... I cant feel a damn thing usually.

As for the 120mg. I guess that is a pretty heavy dose for me. I'm certainly totally unable to walk and/or talk on that dose. I guess a more mid range dose would be 40-60mg which is what I usually take.

I should think before I type stuff up.

Thanks for being so helpful everyone! I think that I'm just going to have to dive in and give it a shot.

 

[Youkai]

youkai you should be filtering your ketamine through a wheel filter to get rid of bacteria, etc.

EN, are you sure your ketamine is good/uncut?

ketamine is really good about not suppressing breathing (as long as you're not mixing it with other downers).

everyone who knows me knows that I DONT inject like YOU should. I even post note that Im doing something potntialuly harmful.

but its still fun!!!!




this summer I want to be the k-hole kid, winter I was deemster teamster, this summer. k-ho le coral

 

[Wakarimasen]

I dried it from a solution I'm just paranoid about the breathing because... well... I cant feel a damn thing usually.

You mean in terms of pain, physical sensations, etc? That's never bothered me, but I do sometimes worry that I might 'break' myself during a trip - the weird dimensions composed of my body contorted into different shapes and mixed up with the rest of the universe can sometimes be bizarre! But generally I trust my body to look after itself during use of K.

Thanks for being so helpful everyone! I think that I'm just going to have to dive in and give it a shot.

The thing with K is that it's not mischievous like mushrooms or 2C-B; in my experience the trip doesn't really play tricks on you, and going into it with doubts or worries probably won't influence the trip in a negative manner. Just 'expect the unexpected' and enjoy the fucked-upness and it's a marvelous thing I don't know anyone who was intimidated by the K-hole, then went into one and came out on the other side with that fear intact.

 

[Jamshyd]

Wakarimasen: (what is it that you don't know? ) 120mg of pure Ketamine will make a K-virgin or even a casual user BLACK OUT COMPLETELY. Wakatta?

120mg is a big dose for someone with no tolerance, even if snorted. 60mg is just fine.

eNod: I wish I was your sitter. I know exactly whats going on in your mind and would have been able to help if I were there.

 

[Jabberwocky]

everyone who knows me knows that I DONT inject like YOU should. I even post note that Im doing something potntialuly harmful.

but its still fun!!!!




this summer I want to be the k-hole kid, winter I was deemster teamster, this summer. k-ho le coral

hey youkai not to bust up the upbeat spirit of our last few posts, but if you don't practice safe injection techniques then maybe mum is the word when posting about injecting. Less information is safer in your case then bc sometimes it comes across like you think your techniques are safe and they are very much not safe. They will result in abcesses which could possibly be very dangerous.

much respect, I know you've become aware lately that people are listening to your posts....more the reason to curtail talk of unsafe practices.

Let's leave it to people to talk about injection practices that will describe safe techniques.

sorry don't mean to be harsh! I'm coming down so I'm not sure if I came off overly asshole-ish.

love ya kid!
samadhi

 

[Wakarimasen]

Wakarimasen: (what is it that you don't know? ) 120mg of pure Ketamine will make a K-virgin or even a casual user BLACK OUT COMPLETELY. Wakatta?

The name was a commentary on my state of mind; a poor attempt at humour! Mattaku sono toori.

120mg is a big dose for someone with no tolerance, even if snorted. 60mg is just fine.

I agree... definitely best to work your way up.

 

[VerbalTruist]

Jamshyd I wish that I had a more experienced trip sitter with me. I'd love to have an experienced person with me.

But I'll have to make do with tripping with the person that I love and trust

I think I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and do it.

 

[Ugster]

So I guess I've got a doseage question... I get my K in crystal form... I really doubt it's cut because it always comes in pretty decent sized crystals. I weigh 150 lbs... I can do 125-150mg nasally and it's trippy as hell.... but I've gone as far as 250-300mg with no tolerance (never really use more than once a week) and I've never COMPLETELY lost touch with reality, I can often even walk at those doses (It's still insanely trippy, but not the kind of thing I hear other people describe).

Anyone know what's up with that?

 

[Wakarimasen]

About 3 hours ago I had something quite interesting to say about K, but unfortunately I forgot it and can't remember no matter how hard I try... how fitting

 

[Jabberwocky]

did it have to do with negative long-lasting symptoms from abusing ketamine like cognitive disruption of processes including working and long-term memory, learning, associative semantic access, etc?

 

[Ugster]

So I guess I've got a doseage question... I get my K in crystal form... I really doubt it's cut because it always comes in pretty decent sized crystals. I weigh 150 lbs... I can do 125-150mg nasally and it's trippy as hell.... but I've gone as far as 250-300mg with no tolerance (never really use more than once a week) and I've never COMPLETELY lost touch with reality, I can often even walk at those doses (It's still insanely trippy, but not the kind of thing I hear other people describe).

Anyone know what's up with that?

Quoting my post because I have a feeling it was going to get lost on the last page and not answered

 

[Wakarimasen]

did it have to do with negative long-lasting symptoms from abusing ketamine like cognitive disruption of processes including working and long-term memory, learning, associative semantic access, etc?

I don't think so, although that would have been fitting.