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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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Ugster said:
Quoting my post because I have a feeling it was going to get lost on the last page and not answered ;)

it works for some and doesnt for others.

Perhaps the IM route would work better for you.
I personally havent gotten around to it yet but will once snorting it loses its magic.

Good luck reaching that space
:)
 
I think the problem with snorting so much ketamine is that a lot gets wasted and goes to your stomach (where it is active in its own right, albeit with very different pharmacodynamics).

IM is really the best method of administration.

There's really no good reason to snort over IM. IMing I think is much healthier for your body.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
I think the problem with snorting so much ketamine is that a lot gets wasted and goes to your stomach (where it is active in its own right, albeit with very different pharmacodynamics).

IM is really the best method of administration.

There's really no good reason to snort over IM. IMing I think is much healthier for your body.
Is it not quite hard to IM properly? I've never shot up anything so I wouldn't know. I quite like putting stuff up my nose, although the cold symptoms can be annoying.
 
Wakarimasen said:
Is it not quite hard to IM properly? I've never shot up anything so I wouldn't know. I quite like putting stuff up my nose, although the cold symptoms can be annoying.
Bluelight's Intravenous(IV) and Intramuscular(IM) FAQ.
Beginner's Guide to Ketamine, IM doses are outlined in this thread.
I quite like snorting k myself, although I do have a pretty serious fear of needles so even if I got sick of snorting it, I would rather stop using k than start injecting it.
 
i stopped injecting in my thighs when one day my muscle twictched, rather violently. I was going about an inch deep and was about to inject when it happened and i instintively pulled out. i dont think i can inject in my thighs anymore because of what happened, in fear it may happen again. it didnt hurt, but it did startle me and was considderably uncomfortable.

can anyone relate/explain?
 
Do you find any localised anaesthetising effects on the muscles where you inject? Does it make it difficult to walk?
 
Wakarimasen said:
Do you find any localised anaesthetising effects on the muscles where you inject? Does it make it difficult to walk?

no. as for walking I never tried I always had all my gear right beside me sitting/laying down and wouldnt move some 20-30 mins later when i emerge.

I'd like to finally reach a full K-hole dose, and since i'm a big guy, it seems I need a lot (300 mg were not enogh yet). so which is the best tactic to get lots of ketamine up the nose?

do it all at once?
 
ungelesene_bettlek said:
I'd like to finally reach a full K-hole dose, and since i'm a big guy, it seems I need a lot (300 mg were not enogh yet). so which is the best tactic to get lots of ketamine up the nose?
Tell me, please.

What is it exactly that you are looking for when you say "K-Hole"?

I hate that word because it makes people do things like take 300mg looking for something undefined, and wasting over-dosing (as in, taking way too much) without achieving anything.
 
ungelesene_bettlek said:
I'd like to finally reach a full K-hole dose, and since i'm a big guy, it seems I need a lot (300 mg were not enogh yet). so which is the best tactic to get lots of ketamine up the nose?
Have you only tried eating it so far? I hate eating K; I only did it once and it made me feel so nauseous I never bothered again.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
did it have to do with negative long-lasting symptoms from abusing ketamine like cognitive disruption of processes including working and long-term memory, learning, associative semantic access, etc?

I can answer that from my experience. I have been spoilt silly with legal, liquid sealed dutch vials. dont ask how but for some reason with its abundance it became the drug of choice, moving from weekened use to sometimes everyday

silly and stupid and counter productive as tolerance just explodes in your facer suddenly :-)

anyways all the above are present but they are transient. after consistant bumping all throughout 2 or 3 weeks time, both me and my friend suffered all the above and including rough sleep and insomnia needing benzo states when K was done late at night. it also affected daily motivation in a big way

and towards the end, NO psycadelic effects were observed at any dose.
only a stuffy nose and a headache.

not even combined with a nice strain or during mdma.

we have stopped for 3 weeks and tried it, still nada

my guess is that psycologically the K anestheised state is now pretty old to us and so the tripping part is gone for now

heeh, i hope i can have a nice explanation for the doctor if i ever have an operation and they gave me a cocktail with k in it :-)

IMO the BEST way to use K is bi-weekly at least, have a nice dose, add one booster bump as max and thats it

i will probably write back when effects return to normal and inform you guys how long it took me to return to baseline
 
djremix said:
IMO the BEST way to use K is bi-weekly at least, have a nice dose, add one booster bump as max and thats it
That's real easy to say, but evidently with K, there is a strong compulsion to re-dose until there's nothing left. I guess that issue can be bypassed by only acquiring the right amount ever so often (eg monthly or bi-weekly), but that can be real tricky I suppose.
 
Ugster said:
Quoting my post because I have a feeling it was going to get lost on the last page and not answered ;)
some peopel ehre can contest that I have IVed a good amount and am still able ot function on some retarded level. cant expect em to do much but droll and craw around with a smile on my face. but Iv NEVER completely zonked my self and passed out. I think I would need ~ 700-1000mg to completely pass out into nothingness. this is also with 100% pure ketamine. no doubt in my mind that it is 100% pure.


but then again, I dont know if I would WANT to completely zonk out, what is the fun in that?
 
Delsyd said:
not knowing how to properly inject is my reason for not doing it.

as far as it being healthier can you tell me why in simple mans language?
its neer good to put crystals up your nose????


plus I personal y ahte teh feeling of doing a bunch fo nasal ketamine. after a few lines it starts to feel like you ahve a cold, and yoru throut hurts and so forth.

it hs been 3? days sense I last shot ketamine and my arm is good as new. lotion and a warm shower cleared it all up!!!
 
samadhi_smiles said:
I think the problem with snorting so much ketamine is that a lot gets wasted and goes to your stomach (where it is active in its own right, albeit with very different pharmacodynamics).

IM is really the best method of administration.

There's really no good reason to snort over IM. IMing I think is much healthier for your body.

No doubt a lot gets wasted. But I can think of some good reasons for snorting it. I think it's far easier to snort some substance instead of preparing the tools for injection (needle, solution for injection etc.). Of course if you're at home and sober when you inject it, IM has some advantages, but if you're outside in nature, at a party etc. it's far easier to just snort it.

Then again, I have always been a wimp when it comes to needles =D

As for the experience I must say it's no longer the same as it used to be. Not that I've been an abuser or addicted to it, but it no longer holds the same mystery to it as it did before. I think it's a shame, as other psychedelics I've tried still have the same magic despite many experiences. Nevertheless I'm still grateful for some of the marvelous experiences I've had with this compound.
 
Maybe you need to take a break from reading the "meta-program" and performing "astral projections" to go explore reality for a little while. You should take a break from K for a week and your cramps will be much less prominent.
 
The shit dessicates my sinuses/nasal passages for days after use if I snort it, which is pretty damned uncomfortable (esp if I redose 2-3x to a fully imemrsive state). I hate k-boogers.

It makes my muscles really sore though, which is a bit of a bummer. pH related or something i guess. its a bit unpleasant. though if I have time to inject like 4 times, I'll take a shot in each deltoid & thigh. that seems to help with the discomfort.

I don't know if the deltoid is really the ideal place for a lot of people, but i used to get allergy shots every couple days there for years and years and sort of got desensitized to it. just dont put too much fluid there.
 
Alcohol and heavily-cut ketamine makes Johnny a disappointed boy. I need to stop getting drunk and deciding it's a good idea to go and buy some K from shit dealers.

It's strange coming from a fairly big K habit, back to virtually non-existant use, and then sometimes falling back into the same use and feeling worthless again.

There was a time when I'd take K at least twice a week, now it's more like once a month or less. But I still sometimes forget myself and take it at the wrong time. K is so useful and mind-expanding when it's not just used to get fucked up. If you're respectful and careful K can give you some amazing trips.
 
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