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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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This is how I do it. I am no expert, so correct me if I'm wrong here somebody.

You're going to need:
insulin syringe (to inject)
2 vials (or spoon I suppose)
25g syringe/needle
micron wheel filter
alcohol swabs
sterile saline

1) sterilize vials by boiling them in water a few minutes

2) add ketamine to one vial and add 1ml of sterile saline to the vial.

3) close and shake around til K dissolves

4) suck up with a needleless syringe (the big one you got not the insulin syringe which is most likely fitted with a needle that doesnt come off)

5) fit wheel filter onto syringe with 'dirty' k liquid then needle onto that

6) push k liquid through filter into second (non-used) vial

7) suck up liquid with insulin syringe

8) wipe injection spot off with alcohol swab

9) BAM! Stick that needle in ya! ASPIRATE to make sure you're not in a vein and then slowly depress the plunger injecting the drug into your body (ohhhh sexy penetration).

10) lay back and listen to music

edit - note this is for preparing ONE shot (I like to shoot 1ml of liquid with each shot). If you want to prepare multiple shots for the evening (I dont think its safe to store the liquid long without flash boiling the vial before use), then just increase the liquid/drugs (keeping the 1ml:1dose proportion).
 
A vendor I know is offering the R(-) isomer of Ketamine alone, not the racemate. Has anyone tried it like this before? Is it even psychedelic (I was told R(-) is more responsible for the physical effects)?
 
Re: Making Injectable Ketamine

If you'll be making a solution from powder the one item I'd add to samadhi_smiles' list is an amber ampoule with a self-sealing membrane on top. You should be able to buy this alongside the other equipment. The ampoule will allow you to prepare a large volume of solution all at once; just make the sterile solution really well once, squirt it into the ampoule, and refrigerate for later use. That way, if the unexpected compulsion to re-dose happens you can just suck it out, and you're not left trying to boil water and use proper sterilization technique while under the influence. Ketamine won't degrade in solution for a long time.
 
well there was some concern about bacteria growing in a vial if left too long. Check out jamshyd's thread in ADD for a good reply from FB. I'll link in a few, just worked out though and am lazy atm :P
 
^Found it, it's still on the first page. I wouldn't think that would be a problem using ampoules specifically designed to hold injectable solutions. The self-sealing membrane at the top I referenced in my last post helps make sure that after the sterilized solution is put in the ampoule all that comes in contact with it is the needle of a sterilized syringe. As far as I know there are only a few ketamine brands that use preservatives even in a solution, they just count on the original sterilization and the integrity of the ampoule, though I could be wrong about that. Any pathogens that survive micron filtering, living with ketamine, and heat sterilization would also need to be able to breed in significant numbers in a refrigerated solution. If you wanted to be really sure adding just a little bit of vinegar could help significantly. In any case, from a harm reduction stand point I think the danger of preping a solution while intoxicated is much more dangerous than whatever risk you have of getting a dangerous infection from allowing a solution to sit, given that all the precautions above are observed. In retrospect it might be better to use a clear ampoule rather than an amber ampoule so you could see if any cloudiness developed in the solution between sessions.
 
Yeah, agreed on all points. I actually have stored other chemicals (not kay) in those types of vials (although mine are all clear glass with a rubber stopper on the top (they came pre-sterilized).
 
ketamine, astral projection and k-cramps

I use ketamine on a regular basis as i have a regular, high quality and easy-to-acquire source. I enjoy using K as a tool to enter into the astral world enabling me to learn about myself, consult my subconscious and to meta-program. I also admit I have found that the addictive qualities of this substance have taken hold of me causing me to use a little more regularly than I'd like to (1/2 to 4+ grams per day).

Due to this heavy usage I experience K-cramps. I have read this archived thread on K-cramps here:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-233398.html

My trouble is I am sure there must be some relief available, but cannot find any information anywhere. I do know that at the onset of the cramps drinking cranberry juice will temporarily lessen the pain a great deal, but I'm sure there must be an extract or another substance which will reduce the pain (excluding pain killers - treat the problem don't dull the pain).

Any advice will be of great help. Also any info about why on identical doses of the same K will I have a beautiful astral experience sometimes and others completely black out with no memory?

Thankyou kindly
alluGR1s
 
Merged in a thread about ketamine

I agree that ketamine is a beautiful substance that can be very useful. However, may I suggest to you that 1/2 to 4 grams a day is a usage rate that is far, far above what could be considered a utilitarian level of use. Be careful that you're not fooling yourself. Metaprogramming and learning about yourself are good uses for ketamine, but do you really think that doing so every day is productive?
 
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AllYouGreatOnes said:
...I'm sure there must be an extract or another substance which will reduce the pain (excluding pain killers - treat the problem don't dull the pain).

Any advice will be of great help. Also any info about why on identical doses of the same K will I have a beautiful astral experience sometimes and others completely black out with no memory?

Thankyou kindly
alluGR1s
Numerous factors could contribute to blacking out at the same dose. I know that if a rat has its heroin tolerance raised progressively in the same environment (like a box with green stripes), and then the rat is transferred to a different environment (like a box with red dots), that even a smaller dose than the maximum given in the original environment can result in a fatal overdose in the new environment. Ever do K in box with red dots on the walls?

Also, if you want to treat the problem and not just dull the pain I can tell you that .5g to 4g a day of K is precisely the problem that needs treating.
 
Sure I know I have a problem with the amounts I'm doing but I'd still love to hear any advice that people have on getting rid of the cramps, chemically speaking, in the stomach, why cranberry juice is good and what is in it that actually helps?

I'm sure there's many people who'd like to know that...
Peace..
 
I tried K for the first time last night. Railed around 75mg and then 25 shortly after, had a few bongs too.

I was really out of it, i didnt think itd be THAT strong. I'm only small, so maybe thats why. I couldnt be bothered moving or doing anything for a while, just sat on the chair for a while with my eyes closed seeing and thinking lots of strange things. I felt as if the chair had fallen to the ground cuse it felt like i was lying on the ground.

Strange chemical, but i liked it. gonna acquire more for later experiments.
 
Haha, right on man.

Thats ketamine in a nutshell, right there. "I was really out of it, i didnt think itd be THAT strong... just sat on the chair for a while with my eyes closed seeing and thinking lots of strange things... gonna acquire more for later experiments."

haha. ah.

Just make sure to space it out. It really can become habit forming, especially if you have serious psychonaut tendencies. Plus, once you hit that right dose and go over to the ketamine realm, its just something else entirely, and very comforting most of the time.
 
If one has an existing tolerance to psychedelics or MDMA will their tolerance to Ketamine be influenced?
 
fizzacyst said:
Haha, right on man.

Thats ketamine in a nutshell, right there. "I was really out of it, i didnt think itd be THAT strong... just sat on the chair for a while with my eyes closed seeing and thinking lots of strange things... gonna acquire more for later experiments."

haha. ah.

Just make sure to space it out. It really can become habit forming, especially if you have serious psychonaut tendencies. Plus, once you hit that right dose and go over to the ketamine realm, its just something else entirely, and very comforting most of the time.
:D
It really is kind of "spacey" hey. I seem to remember being pulled in certain directions, or thinking with my eyes closed i could still "see" the room around me albiet in a different way. I don't really understand it now much 8o

And I will keep the spacing out thing in mind thanks :)

One thing I did notice was the chemical taste in my mouth, it was quite annoying actually. When snorted it was a tiny bit of a burn, and then a little while later I could taste it all through my mouth! Yucky, anyway to prevent this? (Never had the taste so outstanding from snorting other drugs-altho i havent done many).

Cheers :)
 
Injecting or eating it is the only solution to that nasty "drip" ;) First one is claimed to have a much cleaner and better effect than snorted, while the oral way is much worse than snorting since you need more and it's harder to dose.
You can maybe lessen the drip by using another snorting technique, like doing small lines with intervals of a couple of minutes, maybe that allows your nose to absorb more of it.

I noticed the effect of ketamine varies a lot with the kind of stuff too. I had a little bit of a powdery stuff lastly which only had a small and boring effect. Lately I have some very good stuff (comes in tiny, sharp crystals which have to be crushed first) which is much more potent and psychedelic. I guess it's the difference between the R and S isomer and maybe the first batch was mixed with something else (I noticed it stinged less in my nose and seemed to numb it, maybe there was some local anaesthetic included?)
 
Everyone will do whatever they will do but I prefer sniffing the right dose for me.
sometimes after a particularly long binge I actually enjoy the rancid chemical taste, like my body knows what I'm putting in it and it's happy to see Ketamine again...

That movey warpey sliding melding sensation is great though.

I've noticed that doing coke takes this part away as if K is punishing me for going darkside. If I abstain then it comes back with the astral gifts of the gods...

Ahh K....
 
Okay, I've only read through this thread, so sorry if this was brought up in a previous Ketamine Big and Dandy.

I have a friend who went to another college and has had quite a time with ketamine and mentioned that he'll "have to buy me a line." I had been wondering if it'd be out of line for me to ask that I could use it on my own, probably offering to pay for the stuff myself. Any other drug I've done, I'd definitely do it with the person that offered, but it seems like K is an overwhelmingly internal experience for most people. I actually had my first drug experience with this dude, DXM, another (quite different) dissociative, but still found it most rewarding for me when I very occasionally take it and lie down in a dark room with closed eyes and headphones. Said friend has since mentioned that he mostly listens to soul music with K himself.

I realize the thing to do in most situations like this is to be forthright with the person, and not ask them to just give you stuff how you'd like it (again, I'd offer to pay). I guess what I'm mainly trying to ask is whether many of you have found success in doing K with others. I mean, I know some even regard it as a "club drug," but somehow I have my doubts that such socializing won't feel like work or otherwise detract.
 
i think that sub psychdelic experiences with ketamine are very nice, the headspace, the body feelings, its amazing. I got a bit scared of A big dose.. though i still enjoyed it and it has remained with me more prominantly if you know what i mean
 
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