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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Archived start - 11-20-07)

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fizzacyst said:
It has a bad reputation here as well it seems. "what? you eat horse pills and cat tranqs?"

but after they are clued in and give it a shot, most of the serious trippers or those that really like nitrous of DXM enjoy it.
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It's the same over here:\ Most of the people I know don't know anything about ketamine...beyond the fact that it's just "a drug". And I see a lot of people talking shit about k and people who do k(including myself), but then they go off and blow grams of coke8) Oh well, that just means more k for me=D
 
delta_9 said:
Oh well, that just means more k for me=D
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Exactly. I hate the thought of K becoming mainstream (won't happen, it's too weird) and schedule 1-like illegal (that on the other hand might happen aaaarrrrgh). Aaaarrrrrgh.
 
Yeah, I like the situation k is in over here. There definately isn't an abundance like there is with other drugs(cocaine, marijuana, ect.) but there isn't a shortage either. It's weird, I've only not been able to get it once, but I virtually never see it being sold. I have to be actively looking to get it for it to be around(if that makes any sense:! ).
Anyway, I'm happy=D
 
I will agree that perhaps K's b/s reputation does it good service on the street.

However, Ketamine's stigma-by-association (to PCP) remains in the medical field, and so it remains underresearched for its full potential as an antidepressant that is eons ahead of anything medicine currently has to offer.

I think a low-dose Ketamine patch is in order.
 
K Flashbacks

Sorry if this has been brought up.

I'm interested to know about Ketamine flashbacks.

As I was lying in bed, attempting to fall asleep last night, I was in my darkened room, with music playing. This was the same setting in which I had my last Ketamine experience. It was also about the same time (early morning). I was excited over something that's coming up, so I was having trouble getting to sleep, and I began to have what I think were Ketamine flashbacks.

I had a feeling of familiarity with the last Ketamine experience. I was having some mild CEV's and was experiencing a pleasant feeling throughout my body.

Ahh, so yea, how common are Ketamine flashbacks?
 
Ketamine has a bad reputation wherever you go, to my knowledge. People always give you a look like you're some filthy fiendish druggie... "Dude, you snorted cat/horse tranquilizers??" And I'm like, "Hey guys, it may be used in veteranary medicine, but it's also one of the safest and most effective human tranquilizers. And those benzos and barbituates you love are also used on animals." And they're like, "Whatever, I have a mental block up because my best friend's sister's dealer's cousin told me how bad it is and how it'll destroy your brain instantly. But I've certainly never done any research on any drugs whatsoever because my friend's friend's brother did and he told us all how it is."

8)
 
Ptah said:
Exactly. I hate the thought of K becoming mainstream (won't happen, it's too weird) and schedule 1-like illegal (that on the other hand might happen aaaarrrrgh). Aaaarrrrrgh.
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It's really popular in the UK I've heard through the grapevine..
 
Rated E said:
Sorry if this has been brought up.

I'm interested to know about Ketamine flashbacks.

As I was lying in bed, attempting to fall asleep last night, I was in my darkened room, with music playing. This was the same setting in which I had my last Ketamine experience. It was also about the same time (early morning). I was excited over something that's coming up, so I was having trouble getting to sleep, and I began to have what I think were Ketamine flashbacks.

I had a feeling of familiarity with the last Ketamine experience. I was having some mild CEV's and was experiencing a pleasant feeling throughout my body.

Ahh, so yea, how common are Ketamine flashbacks?
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Probably not a flashback as the mind naturally goes through a dissociative state in the progression to full on sleep. You've probably just been made acutely aware of this state due to pre-exposeure to ketamine (especially under the same conditions)
 
And they're like, "Whatever, I have a mental block up because my best friend's sister's dealer's cousin told me how bad it is and how it'll destroy your brain instantly. But I've certainly never done any research on any drugs whatsoever because my friend's friend's brother did and he told us all how it is."
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Yeah, lots of people who are 'street pharmacologists' who actually know bog all about 'proper' pharmacology/psychopharmacology, but what can you do other than attempt to educate people?
 
lol my friend's cat always runs to me and starts touching it whenever I bring out the vials...

Will always love it, as it was the first drug I ever experimented with... and fuck yeah, I'm weird
 
Perhaps I missed this earlier in the thread, but my assumption is that that K is very safe (therapeutic ratio). Aside from the risk from a bad setting (i.e. DM Turner) or choking on one's vomit whats the worst that can happen by taking "too much" ketamine? My understanding is one would merely be anesthetized and wake up shortly thereafter.

I understand there are risks associated with chronic long-tern use, but I'm referring to the risks of overdose.
 
Acute toxicity with ketamine seems to be a fairly benign beast (unless you decide to use a dose of several grams at once!). The main problem seems to be the risk of colic of the gall bladder (which is painful beyond belief - personal experience), although that seems more likely a result of chronic toxicity
 
I hear a lot about K and stomach cramps, could someone please enlighten me? Does it do long-term damage, cuz someone in another thread was talking about a guy in his 20s with a sort of ostomy bag (forget if it was colostomy or another kind)?

I saw something about colic of the gallbladder by f&b, could this be what I have instead of ulcers?
 
samadhi_smiles said:
The bliss from the honeymoon is over, now we're just grinding out our day to day relationship - its hard but we're both making it work-
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Do you care to elaborate? "grinding out our day to day relationship" sounds a bit like habituation to me.

Personally, I find the prospect of having consistent access to K is a little unnerving...:\ I hope the reports of its addictive qualities are overstated, but I'm going to be cautious with this stuff...

Do any experienced users have any tips on how to avoid "dependence"? Perhaps there are signs that can only be seen in hindsight?


I found this quite informative:

Dependency
Unlike most other psychedelics drugs, ketamine can produce an uncomfortable dependency.

The ketamine experience often gives the user a sense of being "on the verge" of discovering enlightenment, contacting an alien race, meeting God, breaking through, etc. Because this feeling can be quite strong, users are often compelled to go back "one more time." This can quickly result in using more in a sitting or more often than intended.

While ketamine is not physically addictive, it does produce similar effects to some of the addictive drugs, notably amphetamines and opiates. Someone using a low dose on a regular basis may quickly find they need it to feel normal.

A ketamine trip can be the ultimate escape; taking one to fantasy landscapes, other dimensions, beyond death, out of the body, or into oblivion. Its easy to see how this could quickly become a problem for someone with escapist/chemically dependant tendencies.

After many uses ketamine begins to exhibit different effects on its users. It may become more physical and less psychedelic, and the user may develop more and more difficulty remembering the experience. This can drive some people to use more often and/or in larger doses.

A few pointers in avoiding dependency: don't buy large quantities, set limits on how often you will use and stick to them, watch for dependant behavior and if you experience it quit using.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=52830
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i read somewhere on online (sorry, don't remember where) that you can legally purchase one of the intermediate compounds for making ketamine. and then just do the last chemical reation or two yourself. if you know how to do it safely of corse. does anyone else know what i'm talking about?
 
I'd like to lay my hands on some K (as if that weren't obvious...working on it), but in spite of that I do have a kinda working "life".
However, for the past 3 days (or nights actually) I've been having weird dreams (ever since I started taking Piracetam I actually remember my dreams...) about K and succesfully obtaining K.
Wtf. Makes me wonder...
 
just to clear up any confusion - I was speaking in a meta-voice about the honeymoon and habituation - I'm not personally addicted to K and doing it daily - although I have a slight lingering psychological addiction (and from only a gram and a half!)-
 
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