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The Big and Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread (Archive 3-19-07 - 4-12-08)

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gel capping a strong dose of powdered san pedro or peruvian torch will require at least 20-40 capsules.

you can actually extract mescaline using only everclear alcohol. the extraction pulls out all the active chemicals as well as the waxes and fats of the cactus, this yields whats known as a raw extraction. a dosage of this could be capsuled into 7-15 capsules.

the extraction you are hesitant of is likely the full extraction, which involves using chemical agents to pull all the fats out of the cactus. the difference is the raw leaves a few grams per dose, the full refines down to pure crystal mescaline
 
Merged thread about cactus ingestion methods....

^^^How much would doing an alchohol extraction on san pedro for example reduce nausea- thats my main problem with mescaline.
 
thoughtsUnThought said:
gel capping a strong dose of powdered san pedro or peruvian torch will require at least 20-40 capsules.

you can actually extract mescaline using only everclear alcohol. the extraction pulls out all the active chemicals as well as the waxes and fats of the cactus, this yields whats known as a raw extraction. a dosage of this could be capsuled into 7-15 capsules.

the extraction you are hesitant of is likely the full extraction, which involves using chemical agents to pull all the fats out of the cactus. the difference is the raw leaves a few grams per dose, the full refines down to pure crystal mescaline
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Hmmm, interesting! I'll have to look into that. Thanks. :)
 
burnt san pedro resin

if one were to have made a mistake while preparing san pedro and left the pot to boil down so far that it became a sticky charred resin stuck to the pan, what should one do? some of the chared resin could be scraped up but it smells burnt, would it be possable for one to salvage this?
 
i couldn't say for sure, though i know that mescaline is one of the more resistent molecules. seeing as though it's one of the few psychedelics which can be cooked and even smoked and maintain effect.

you could potentially try smoking it, or eating some...and if it doesn't work, then i would suggest appologizing to the cactus and burying the extract. (he'll probably forgive you)
 
Found somewhere on the internets:

she’s flabbergasted and stunned into a state of utter speechlessness.

time and time and time again, she’s said that pure mescaline HCl in crystalline form is better than powder of any stripe…

the drug she consumed last night was the strongest hallucinogen she’s ever used. She cannot begin to recall all the times she’s tripped on mescaline.

this batch is Special.

all these hours later… she’s still tripping. how long now? 16 hours, maybe?

its going to last a full 24.

it was smooth as the glass in which we constructed the Matrix… utter absence of body load (except the yummy parts…)… it was pure mind and soul… 100% immersion into the

One.

color. mescaline is the most colorful of all drugs except possibly dmt.

somewhere near the peak, she took two massive rips off the DMT bong. She puked a little but barely remember it.

the two most colorful of hallucinogens… the one with the shortest duration and one of the marathon duration drugs..

they meshed seamlessly, each contributing it own characteristic color but combining to create something Unique.

the mescaline pipe.

this is how you extend the stuff indefinitely.

in order to truly appreciate what the pipe has to offer, one must already be on the drug to begin with.

when you are already tripping balls and you hit that pipe, it hits you just exactly the way DMT does… total immersion into hyperspace…

only this is mescaline hyperspace, not dmtspace. it is as sudden and as vivid as DMT only it is mescaline at Warp 12.

it becomes like crack.

PedroCrack.

but unlike cocaine, this stuff lasts for ages.

if you hit that pipe every so often… every 4 hours or so… you never have to come down. no data on tolerance yet…

she needs to come down but this is sooooo good.
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about a kilo dry... but this is not a synthesis, its just an extraction and purification...

and as far as shards go... two things...

this drug is not methamphetamine and does not look exactly like it...
what exactly determines what is and is not a shard of mescaline?

the jagged triangular shaped pieces of crystaline material were clear in places and white in others... they melted at 181 deg C to a clear oil in the pipe and left no residue whatsoever...

(yeah, you can smoke mescaline same as meth!)
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...says he can verify this works exactly as advertised and would like to thank ... Beautiful crystals were produced no matter what you want to call them that were, indeed, smokable. It may not be suited for the faint of heart however...he claims that eating some, waiting for the onset and then firing off the pipe is kind of like strapping afterburners to your ass. Smoking also allows you to extend the trip beyond what you may have imagined possible...having a really good friend on hand to make you quit ain't no bad idea.
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yeah, you can smoke mescaline same as meth!)

Sounds like a load of shit to me. A dose of mescaline - even if it's "pure shards" is 400mg. You can't smoke 400mg in one hit at the pipe like you can 40mg of DMT or meth.

No-one in their right mind is going to waste mescaline HCL by trying to smoke it. I imagine what this person thought was "mescaline" was some research chemical they had bought and the dealer told them "Dude, smoke this mescaline".
 
Actually the author is the one who extracted the mescaline themselves. From other reports that the author has written I am very inclined to believe them.
this is how you extend the stuff indefinitely.

in order to truly appreciate what the pipe has to offer, one must already be on the drug to begin with.
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Also it may not be clear from the above, but the author used the smoke as a boost not as the initial dose. The initial dose was IVed and plugged. Here is a pic of the product in question as extracted and purified by the author.
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What's the point in burning mescaline? Why not just eat it and get the full effect? You would get far more of a booster effect simply by eating it.
 
Is this from your experience? A friends experience? If it is anything like smoking methamphetaimine you would be vaporizing it, not burning it. Also smoking the mescaline would be almost instantaneous, unlike eating it. You say that you would not get the full effect of smoking / vaporizing it. Do you have any data regarding the bioavailability of mescaline when smoked, is this from experience, or are you just assuming?
 
I don't know, but I'm sure you could find out by doing some research on the internet. Google is your friend. It would also help if you could post a picture of what you have. Did you get it from a vendor selling it as San Pedro?
 
By "points", do you mean spines? or the ribs?

If ribs, like posted above, thats fine & normal, though a little less common. I actually have a 6-ribbed san pedro that has one 4-ribbed arm & two 7-ribbed ones. I have no clue what causes the number to be this or that, and they do change over time here and there.
 
Please a little help with my cacti

I got this here beautiful San Pedro (Echinopsis pachanoi) cacti

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I'm planning on planting it. Once the bottom is sucked in far enough and dry and "cork like" I know it's good to go into the soil (with lower risk of rot).

my question is: How many inches of the cacti should be submerged in soil?

I've searched all over and only got vague responses.

another question: What size/depth/diameter pot should i use?

lastly Should I put gravel or stones at the bottom of the pot to keep the water from getting stagnant?

The cacti is 19 inches long and 4-5 inches thick in diameter at it's widest point.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, or any grower's tips would be awesome too. I can't wait to plant this cacti and I want it to have a long healthy life.
I've searched sacredcacti.com and google and stuff, and they have almost exactly everything i need to know except these few things.
 
Can you provide some sort of reference that backs up that claim? Because I have a hard time seeing something like that affecting alkaloid production, especially on the same plant.

If you are going by the anecdotal stuff, then it would seem that more ribs would be better as there would be more surface area and this more green photosynthetic layer, which many claim holds the majority of the goods.

Either way, unless someone has measured it many times in many cacti, I wouldn't put much faith in it.
 
Aren't the San Pedros Trichocereus pachanoi, rather than Echinopsis pachanoi?

It is beautiful though. And it looks just like a San Pedro.
 
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