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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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Fumarate seems to be by far the most common form for this substance, probably because it's one of the most stable forms for storage, so yeah, I'd say go with the assumption that the fumarate is what's being talked about unless otherwise noted.

Welcome to PD and BL by the way, hope you'll enjoy your stay :)

EDIT: Also, psilacetin is quite benign mentally when compared to it's close cousin psilocin, so it's a nice choice for someone less experienced with psychedelics. 6mg of relative difference in dosage shouldn't make too much of a difference in that regard either, I've done it up to 35mg and found it still rather non-threatening at that level. However, starting low and gradually working your way up is definitely the recommended approach, that way you can make sure you(r woman) won't be in for any nasty surprises :)
 
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Their should be an entry in Thikal I believe I'll try to find the best answer.

I enjoy this compound, although I enjoy mushrooms the same. This is a little less immersive and different. Have fun and bee safe. Welcome to BL. :)
 
I had the distinct pleasure of trying 4-AcO-DMT solo and I was pleasantly surprised to say the least. This is what I texted a friend the next day with further comments in parenthesis:

Fun fun fun. I danced my ass off. Mad euphoria and sick visuals (CEVs were most apparent). Dropped @ 11pm, slept at 7am after having breakfast. God is music was the message. A+. Can easily go higher dose no problems (I tend to be a hardhead). Clean euphoria, no burnout, minimum bodyload (slightly increased heart rate otherwise very relaxed and anxiety-free). Slight insomnia towards the tail end. Definitely partyable substance (at this dose) as well as exploratory tool (I'd imagine at higher doses). Great, awesome, thank u!

I also wrote a trip report while I was tripping. My ego was more or less intact and I was able to focus when I needed to. Here is the transcript:

Dose: ~25 mg - 28 mg
Setting: Solo in my room

T+1:00 : Something's happening. Not nervousness but just increased energy along my spine. Compared to LSD, at this stage I feel quite sedated. Heart is not beating fast. Shpongle playing on iTunes is nice. Seems like a slow build-up happening. Colors seem a bit brighter... slowing of perception of time.

T+1:08 : Feeling is becoming more perceptible. I feel like mushrooms did initially kinda. Getting nice CEVs -- purple color like someone's waiting to show me more beauty if I close my eyes.

T+1:13 : Music is beautiful! Shpongle was a good choice. I feel "up" but not in a bad way.. I just feel active but body is chill.

T+1:18 : It's good visuals and the euphoria is nice. I feel nice and smooth right now. No edginess. My ego is intact so far and I am smiling :) I feel like dancing actually.

T+1:23 : Full pupil dilation. Ego intact but a bit blurry. Music is god right now.

T+1:36 : Been dancing alone to Shpongle. These guys know wassup.

T+1:45 : I feel great. Maybe the feeling seems plateaued. But let's see. Music of Shpongle is ungodly.. will now switch off lights.

T+2:05 : Music still awesome. I think this dosage has shown me what it could. I could use a higher dose next time due to my hard headedness. But very nice still with plenty of euphoria.

T+2:18 : Nice auditory enhancement but damn Shpongle rocks by itself. Levitation Nation is a great track. I feel euphoric chill.

[I continued dancing my ass off during this interval and watched a DVD of Nocturnal Wonderland '08 on mute with Shpongle playing in the background, which really got me going]

[Also, I smoked a phat bowl of some good ass Sativa which re-energized me. Very very nice.]

T+4:50 : Turned off music as I feel I need to chill out a bit. Some crazy fun tonight. Damn love being alive and dancing and chilling to some good ass music. I had so much fun that I feek guilty a bit (haha! not really!) but I wanna share the love with all and everything and everyone so a good time was most definitely had. Some wicked dancing and great energy. I still feel it inside me. Till next time until we meet again! Adios World I lova ya!

After this I tried to unsuccessfully sleep for a little bit until finally deciding to grab some breakfast. I ate hungrily and was then able to fall asleep. Woke up next day feeling good with no burnout.

Internally, this substance showed me some of the barriers that I put up myself in my own path. It also showed me what my existence would be like if those barriers were to vanish. It showed me how smooth things would go. I felt a sense of power - like I could get what I want in a simpler manner than I make it out to be. Most obstacles in life are created internally and they can be demolished internally as well.

Conclusion: Great substance. Similar to mushrooms but less mindfuck, more euphoria, and gentler disposition overall. Can't wait to revisit this zone again.
 
I had a massive experience on this one on the weekend... first truly mind blowing trip for me. 30mg of the fumarate, rectally. Started off with swirly visuals and an unpleasant body feeling - fast heart and breathing, like i'd just been for a run - but that passed relatively quickly, the i just went absolutely bonkers, visuals all over the place and MASSIVE shifts in perspective, i.e. i'd be looking at the patterns on the couch and all of a sudden the pattern would fill my entire vision and it was the only thing that existed in the world... then it would zoom out and I'd be back in the room.

Also, incredible CEV's, colourful sci-fi type hallways which i almost felt like i could reach out and touch. the CEV and OEV's were both so incredible that I couldn't decide if I liked having my eyes open or closed better.

The it shifted and i went completely insane, rolling on the ground screaming and babbling nonsese. I think i honestly got a glimpse of what it was like to be properly crazy. I had no sense of time or anything really, and when i was focused enough to form a proper thought I couldn't ever remember not being that way. I felt like i'd been high and crazy my entire life. In fact i had no concept of life or time, I just felt like the state I was in was all there was.

The it shifted again and the visuals and craziness went away after what felt like years, and I entered a state of what I think was ego-loss. Having never had that before I can't say for sure, but I felt like I had no sense of identity and talking with my GF (who was also on it, but not a heroic dose) I couldn't tell the difference between me and her... like I didn't know where "I" finished, and "she" began. Was very werid, but very awesome. We started watching a movie (Double Jeopardy with Ashley Judd) and I couldn't tell the difference between the people on TV and my GF, I thought we were all in the same room.

Also, I couldn't stop staring at Ashley Judd, I just thought she was the most magnificent looking being on the planet. It wasn't sexual at all I just wanted to look at her face forever.

Through the 'ego loss' phase I felt like I was re-learning everything, and what it was to be human. I'd say things to my GF like "You're a girl right? And I'm a Boy? And they're not the same thing are they?" and "What happens after this? We do the thing with putting food in our mouths right? Then we sleep?"

It was like I knew subconsciously what it was to be human but I still had to re-learn the specifics... very strange, but also awesome

As the movie went on I think my ego and sense of self gradually came back, and by the end of the movie (about 3.5 hours after dosing) I felt mostly back to normal, not 100% but I at least knew who I was and that the people in the TV weren't real :)

Another interesting thing was, before the movie came on the Simpsons was on and I couldn't stand it. I normally love the simpsons but I think the fact that they were cartoons was something that my shattered ego just couldnt deal with. All I wanted was to watch "real" people, which is how we ended up watching Double Jeaopardy

The next day I had an absolute splitting headache and my head still doesn't feel right today (the day after) but at least the headache is gone

Sorry for the long post - that was my first proper "balls deep" trip, I've had other trips before but nothing on that scale. 4-aco-dmt is truly an unbelivable substance and I'm so glad I've been fortunate enough to experience it. I think if I do it again any time soon it will be a lower dosage, but I would like to experience the big dose again sometime.

Reading what I wrote makes it sound a bit scary and unenjoyable but thats not the case - I had an absolute blast, laughed my arse off, saw amazing colourful visuals and then the ego-loss was a very interesting experience... overall a very positive experience.
 
^ Sounds VERY much like a high dose mushrooms experience, I guess at high doses the differences between psiloc(yb)in and psilacetin diminish greatly. Good to hear you had your first truly intense psychedelic experience!

Damn, I really miss psilacetin now. Hopefully it will find it's way to me again soon <3
 
I hope you're right in that it is very much like high dose shrooms, so i never have to bother trying to chow down on those disgusting little things :)

My supply of psilacetin seems pretty solid for the moment, thank god for the interpipes :D
 
I think I'll just call it Awesome =D

Also I forgot to mention, me and the girly did some painting earlier in the day (I've never painted anything before) and I think thats part of the reason I was seeing such bright and vibrant colours while tripping, becuase we were only painting with bright primary colours... almost definitely made a difference to the trip I think
 
I pushed this chem to 44mg yesterday and it was hands down the most beautiful, most meaningful trip of my life. I have never felt near as good as I did 26 hours ago. Mmmmmm. I don't want to build up my tryptamine tolerance, it just came down . . . but I'm very tempted to revisit in a hurry.
 
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The it shifted again and the visuals and craziness went away after what felt like years, and I entered a state of what I think was ego-loss. Having never had that before I can't say for sure, but I felt like I had no sense of identity and talking with my GF (who was also on it, but not a heroic dose) I couldn't tell the difference between me and her... like I didn't know where "I" finished, and "she" began. Was very werid, but very awesome.
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Haha I'm pretty sure that is ego loss/ego dissolution. Happened to me on acid, I kissed her and we merged into one. Along with the universe too, :D!.

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I don't want to build up my tryptamine tolerance, it just came down . . . but I'm very tempted to revisit in a hurry.
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Haha, fucking research chemicals. Sometimes I wished they were more expensive so they wouldn't test my self control like that.
 
25-28 mg was beautiful but nowhere as overpowering as I had been led to believe. But being a first dose, I am glad I erred on the side of caution. I can see this as unabashedly devastatingly beautiful at 35 mg and higher. I am still glowing from my trip :)
 
I'm still glowing too. The world is too. Everything is much brighter and happier around me. My favorite RC out there. Nothing else comes close for me.
 
I found the relaxed body load and anti-anxiety properties of this substance as quite remarkable. Compared to its tryptamine cousin LSD, this substance is quite benign in terms of body load and the general nervous speediness that sometimes accompanies acid trips. The relaxation, in turn, makes for a good trip.
However, I'd like to underscore that this is a powerful substance and higher doses can cause adverse effects in the inexperienced tripper. I have heard of a girl who, after taking a rather large dose, proceeded to take her clothes off and talk to herself for many hours so be careful out there! Last thing we want is some dumb kid hurting themselves and bringing spotlight on this remarkable substance. Next thing we know it'll be scheduled.
Cautions and warnings aside, I found it to be quite pleasurable with a definite euphoria.
 
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I searched the thread and couldn't find any info on rectal admin. Does it not work?

Any info would be appreciated.
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It most certainly does. From the sound of it, though, it doesn't reduce the dosage a whole lot from oral (compared to, say, the 2C's) and being as few people report experiencing much in the way of nausea from stuffing it down their food holes, it doesn't really seem like it would be worth the effort.

Mind you, I've only taken the stuff orally. Maybe someone with some first hand experience can correct me if I'm misinformed.
 
I've dont it thrice, once orally and twice rectally. Oral made me feel nauseated and effects werent that strong, same dose anally was much more effective, and 30mg anal (fumarate) had me in another world. DEFINITELY recommand rectal admin, it's the only way to fly.

Plus You can eat while under a rectal admin, and eating can be FUN too. I managed to cook myself bacon and eggs and it was some of the best food I've ever eaten =D
 
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