dynamo
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Does anyone else find that have less patience towards ppl after a benzo session? Or u just react harsher towards annoying ppl?
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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV
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After popping a few benzos its like somone flicks the fight mode switch, all of a sudden keen as for a scrap
Usually when with mates end up nudging, shoving, wrestling, heaps of shit talking etc. Get deep enough you stop giving a fuck about anything.
drug_mentor
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I can get a bit agro on benzo's, not so much when using them therapeutically or to potentiate other drugs, but on the rare occasion I am getting bent on mainly benzo's or them alone I can be prone to being a dickhead and have done regrettable things in the past, which is a significant part of the reason it is very rare for me to abuse them these days. Mixing with alcohol is a recipe for disaster unless it is just a few drinks or so or I am just popping one or two at the end of a night on the piss to knock me out.
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Right. You see your GP who won't prescribe you benzo's because he's an ignorant douchebag, so he refers you to a psychiatrist. The psych, at like $400 a session, goes on to say that you are fucked up and need valium every day. Then the dr, after writing the scripts for over a year, starts saying that you can't just get auto repeats. You need to come see me, and while he does bulk bill, I still have to find time for the appointment, spend petrol getting there and wait for a fucking long time. Why? It' already been established, by a fucking psychiatrist, you ignorant fuck bag that I need my fucking valium.
Don't you realise, that the reason I need valium is because I find it difficult to do things such as make Dr's appointments, and then get to them? Like fuck, I don't need my benzo's so I can go to a fucking nudie beach, I need them to FUCKING LIVE YOU CUNTS. FUCK OFF AND STOP MAKING IT HARDER THAN IT ALREADY IS!
pisspotnrock
Bluelighter
as much as I hate to admit, I can actually relate to that..
fuckin over xannax, causes more problems than it solves.. although alcohol plays a huge factor in this opinion of mine...
I cant be trusted with benzoes, fullstop
tentram
Ex-Bluelighter
Opi8, you sound like me on a good day with my daily valium amd morphine scripts in me.
Benzo and opiate rage in conjunction with each other trumps all others though, for sure.
Benzo and opiate rage in conjunction with each other trumps all others though, for sure.
Ashley
Bluelight Crew
That's why I stopped taking them bro - I kept ending up in jail, waking up in a hospital after a tonic clonic seizure or waking up to lovely dose of naloxone after overdosing when I mixed them with opiates. Nowadays, I just use diazepam and have grown to actually enjoy it more. I could never find my sweet spot with Xanax, I either wasn't fucked up enough or stumbling through a retail outlet pocketing random items with supreme confidence in my stealthy shoplifting abilities crashing into displays and shit.
One of the best decisions I ever made was to quit taking alprazolam, and you're absolutely right about alcohol playing in a big part in how "messy" it can make the effects of alprazolam. Get off the shit brother, you won't regret it.
A.
tentram
Ex-Bluelighter
I am *this* close to spiking my dads coffee with a heap of valium just to shut him the fuck up in order to enjoy my valium and morphine buzz which is on rather strong at the current point in time. Or just enough of valium to knock him out into a nice, long and extremely deep sleep where tis impossible to wake.him with the clanging and bannging of pots n pans.
Afterall, he has slept.sweet fuck all over the previous 3 days; so I really don't know how he's.still going apart.from mayne the coffee having been consumed through the day and this evening. Hnnnnnnnnnnng!
At least I know hell be out hard fod a good whilebwhen he finally does drop out tonight. Which will leave me able to sit at the table tomorrow morning, able to prep my shot.of morphine while the jug is boiling and bread toasting. Instead of having to have it all closed in in my room. Just feels so much more liberating and comfortable out in the open roomm. The change of environment, as proven throufh sifferent studies and mentioned ihin amecdotea, has the.shot hit that little bit harder. Just a nicer feeling all over as it is. I'll aim for.around a.10-1100hr.shot and no later than midday. Not that I have to worry about.wds hitting that early just yet in this cycle.
Afterall, he has slept.sweet fuck all over the previous 3 days; so I really don't know how he's.still going apart.from mayne the coffee having been consumed through the day and this evening. Hnnnnnnnnnnng!
At least I know hell be out hard fod a good whilebwhen he finally does drop out tonight. Which will leave me able to sit at the table tomorrow morning, able to prep my shot.of morphine while the jug is boiling and bread toasting. Instead of having to have it all closed in in my room. Just feels so much more liberating and comfortable out in the open roomm. The change of environment, as proven throufh sifferent studies and mentioned ihin amecdotea, has the.shot hit that little bit harder. Just a nicer feeling all over as it is. I'll aim for.around a.10-1100hr.shot and no later than midday. Not that I have to worry about.wds hitting that early just yet in this cycle.
panic_attack
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Hi. This is my first post on this site. I've had panic attacks since I was a teenager which began out of the blue
and scared the living hell out of me so much that I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. I was prescribed
TCAs (imipramine, nortriptyline, desipramine), buspirone, paroxetine, fluoxetine, venlafaxine, sertraline -- and
when I couldn't tolerate buspirone-- it was back to TCAs and SSRIs again.
I was finally given diazepam but it made me sleepy all the time so they gave me alprazolam
and that was okay but gave me vertigo the first time around.
Then I was on clorazepate which was tolerable and easy to taper off whenever I wanted to.
My psychiatrist wanted me to try clonazepam and that was so sedating I was afraid to go to sleep
because my breathing felt slowed down and that was only 0.5mg. I was on no other medications at
that time. He prescribed lorazepam but that made me feel weird and had some sort of dissociative
and amnestic effects that I didn't like. I couldn't tell if I was on lorazepam or having anxiety because
anxiety makes me feel depersonalized and foggy headed but lorazepam was a bad experience for
me. I kept hearing music in my head when I'd wake up in the morning on that stuff.
I've found clorazepate to be a little less sedating than diazepam but unavailable where I currently
live. Diazepam makes me depressed and easier to become angry (when provoked) if I'm prescribed it for many years nonstop.
Alprazolam was like a switch that just turned off the panic attacks without giving
me too much sedation and without too much impairment or respiratory depression.
I was told I snored really loud and my breathing was "weird" when on diazepam (5mg q.i.d.).
I'm currently on alprazolam 1mg q.i.d. because 1mg t.i.d. wasn't enough to block
all the attacks as I'd get sudden attacks between doses. At the 4x/day dose the
panic attacks are fully suppressed and my agoraphobia (which is the worst) is
much more under control.
I hate it when people abuse these meds. I feel that alprazolam is suitable for
panic disorder and doesn't affect libido as the SSRIs do and doesn't cause
irregular heart rhythms as the TCAs did.
However, that said, despite the lack of panic attacks, I wish there was
something that didn't make me feel apathetic. I just feel no drive to do
anything. Yeah, no panic attacks and I can shop for food but I don't feel
interested in anything anymore.
I used to like photography but when I quit smoking cigarettes 3 months
ago I lost all my motivation for that too. I have so many cameras I don't use.
I don't feel depressed but definitely feel a lack of interest in the things
I used to be interested in. The psychiatrist told me there's nothing he
can do at this point. He is good in that he talks to me for an hour.
I hope there's a medication that comes out someday that will
just stop the attacks without sedation. I was told clobazam might
be worth asking my psychiatrist about but I read many reports
that it didn't seem to be very efficacious for panic attacks although
it was good for generalized anxiety.
I'm sorry for this long post.
I'm not sure if I have a question other than (should I open a new thread?)
I was wondering if others had tried medical marijuana with a high CBD/THC ratio
and had any good results with that for severe anxiety.
I've been on benzodiazepines for well over a decade and the more
I read about how bad the withdrawal symptoms can be it scares the crap
out of me. Sure, I can taper but usually I don't have the patience to taper
and I taper too fast.
I tried tapering my alprazolam by 0.5mg last month and was
very nauseated..could not eat. My pdoc said that was too rapid
a taper and recommended 0.125mg instead but now I'm too scared
to reduce it again.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my story about alprazolam.
It definitely, IMHO, works a lot better with less sedation than
clonazepam or diazepam in my experience but I just
wish I didn't have to take anything just to be 25 to 50% like
everyone else is.
Panic disorder is a living hell. The pills make my life
float by like a dream. Time passes by unusually fast.
I wish I didn't have to take anything for my condition
but I'm too frightened of having a panic attack again.
I guess I'm just venting. I read the rules here and hope
I didn't break any as I didn't intend to.
Take care.
Rick
and scared the living hell out of me so much that I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. I was prescribed
TCAs (imipramine, nortriptyline, desipramine), buspirone, paroxetine, fluoxetine, venlafaxine, sertraline -- and
when I couldn't tolerate buspirone-- it was back to TCAs and SSRIs again.
I was finally given diazepam but it made me sleepy all the time so they gave me alprazolam
and that was okay but gave me vertigo the first time around.
Then I was on clorazepate which was tolerable and easy to taper off whenever I wanted to.
My psychiatrist wanted me to try clonazepam and that was so sedating I was afraid to go to sleep
because my breathing felt slowed down and that was only 0.5mg. I was on no other medications at
that time. He prescribed lorazepam but that made me feel weird and had some sort of dissociative
and amnestic effects that I didn't like. I couldn't tell if I was on lorazepam or having anxiety because
anxiety makes me feel depersonalized and foggy headed but lorazepam was a bad experience for
me. I kept hearing music in my head when I'd wake up in the morning on that stuff.
I've found clorazepate to be a little less sedating than diazepam but unavailable where I currently
live. Diazepam makes me depressed and easier to become angry (when provoked) if I'm prescribed it for many years nonstop.
Alprazolam was like a switch that just turned off the panic attacks without giving
me too much sedation and without too much impairment or respiratory depression.
I was told I snored really loud and my breathing was "weird" when on diazepam (5mg q.i.d.).
I'm currently on alprazolam 1mg q.i.d. because 1mg t.i.d. wasn't enough to block
all the attacks as I'd get sudden attacks between doses. At the 4x/day dose the
panic attacks are fully suppressed and my agoraphobia (which is the worst) is
much more under control.
I hate it when people abuse these meds. I feel that alprazolam is suitable for
panic disorder and doesn't affect libido as the SSRIs do and doesn't cause
irregular heart rhythms as the TCAs did.
However, that said, despite the lack of panic attacks, I wish there was
something that didn't make me feel apathetic. I just feel no drive to do
anything. Yeah, no panic attacks and I can shop for food but I don't feel
interested in anything anymore.
I used to like photography but when I quit smoking cigarettes 3 months
ago I lost all my motivation for that too. I have so many cameras I don't use.
I don't feel depressed but definitely feel a lack of interest in the things
I used to be interested in. The psychiatrist told me there's nothing he
can do at this point. He is good in that he talks to me for an hour.
I hope there's a medication that comes out someday that will
just stop the attacks without sedation. I was told clobazam might
be worth asking my psychiatrist about but I read many reports
that it didn't seem to be very efficacious for panic attacks although
it was good for generalized anxiety.
I'm sorry for this long post.
I'm not sure if I have a question other than (should I open a new thread?)
I was wondering if others had tried medical marijuana with a high CBD/THC ratio
and had any good results with that for severe anxiety.
I've been on benzodiazepines for well over a decade and the more
I read about how bad the withdrawal symptoms can be it scares the crap
out of me. Sure, I can taper but usually I don't have the patience to taper
and I taper too fast.
I tried tapering my alprazolam by 0.5mg last month and was
very nauseated..could not eat. My pdoc said that was too rapid
a taper and recommended 0.125mg instead but now I'm too scared
to reduce it again.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my story about alprazolam.
It definitely, IMHO, works a lot better with less sedation than
clonazepam or diazepam in my experience but I just
wish I didn't have to take anything just to be 25 to 50% like
everyone else is.
Panic disorder is a living hell. The pills make my life
float by like a dream. Time passes by unusually fast.
I wish I didn't have to take anything for my condition
but I'm too frightened of having a panic attack again.
I guess I'm just venting. I read the rules here and hope
I didn't break any as I didn't intend to.
Take care.
Rick
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pisspotnrock
Bluelighter
That's why I stopped taking them bro - I kept ending up in jail, waking up in a hospital after a tonic clonic seizure or waking up to lovely dose of naloxone after overdosing when I mixed them with opiates. Nowadays, I just use diazepam and have grown to actually enjoy it more. I could never find my sweet spot with Xanax, I either wasn't fucked up enough or stumbling through a retail outlet pocketing random items with supreme confidence in my stealthy shoplifting abilities crashing into displays and shit.
One of the best decisions I ever made was to quit taking alprazolam, and you're absolutely right about alcohol playing in a big part in how "messy" it can make the effects of alprazolam. Get off the shit brother, you won't regret it.
A.
I'm so glad someone see's where I'm coming from.. especially someone with your experience/knowledge...
thankfully - I've never really been involved in opiates, not even on an semi-regular basis.. most I use, is pod tea when I cultivate them myself (in season) for personal use which really equates to nothing in comparison to regular heroin/morphine/oxy use...
valium/serapax is the only benzoe I trust at the moment but thats in only minimal use..at the moment, Im fuckin off the bars for aslong as I can be due to my closest's mates tellin me how much it changes me, which is true...
but yeah, the piss is what fucks up every decent benzoe experience I seem to have, usually strictly referring to alprazolam
puddle.up
Bluelighter
xanax is an evil drug, the fact that doctors still use it as a long term treatment for anxiety is madness. its like the whole "ADHD" thing, I cant fathom the concept of feeding a 6 year old kid speed tablets just because he was a little shit at school, fuck who wasnt!?
back to benzos though, I spent a solid 8 months on heavy doses of alprazolam, at my peak I was eating about 8-10 2mg bars to get me through the day. best thing I ever did was get off that shit, I was stupid enough not to taper though so when I cut myself off from xanys I had a minor seizure, and after that I didn't get a wink of sleep for about 6 nights.
small doses of alprazolam are awesome for treating anxiety, works miracles, but I dont agree with it being a long term solution, once you eventually go off xanax your anxiety will be 100 times worse than it was before
back to benzos though, I spent a solid 8 months on heavy doses of alprazolam, at my peak I was eating about 8-10 2mg bars to get me through the day. best thing I ever did was get off that shit, I was stupid enough not to taper though so when I cut myself off from xanys I had a minor seizure, and after that I didn't get a wink of sleep for about 6 nights.
small doses of alprazolam are awesome for treating anxiety, works miracles, but I dont agree with it being a long term solution, once you eventually go off xanax your anxiety will be 100 times worse than it was before
Yeah I've seen those studies too, and I do notice that shots feel a little better when I'm in an unfamiliar environment. That could just be the fact that usually when I shoot in a strange place, it's because I'm sick and need a fix now - they are always the best shots. Going from sick to better, I don't think I've felt any better feeling in the world.
I don't think it's that controversial, a lot of people agree that benzo withdrawal is at least on par with, and many say a lot worse than opiate withdrawal. That's one reason I am always careful not to use benzos too frequently, they are a godsend but I'm already physically dependant to one drug, don't want to make it two with horrendous withdrawals.
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Jimmyjimjim
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Used to really like Xanax, quite a habit/tolerance crept up almost without me noticing, not as much as some but around 5mg a day, pretty quickly. Found I was just increasing the amount almost daily.
Managed to nip the habit in the bud, and haven't had any for many months. Was going to get some to take the edge off the comedown from the meth I just purchased yesterday, but decided I'd rather deal with it than risk getting back on the benzos again.
As people have said, short-term and lowish doses, they are really great, but mid/long-term use is asking for trouble.
Managed to nip the habit in the bud, and haven't had any for many months. Was going to get some to take the edge off the comedown from the meth I just purchased yesterday, but decided I'd rather deal with it than risk getting back on the benzos again.
As people have said, short-term and lowish doses, they are really great, but mid/long-term use is asking for trouble.
tallboy31
Greenlighter
Hi, im not sure where the best place is to talk about this.. Im on a reduction off my methadone and ive reached roughly 40mgs. Its been 2 years of slow reductions. Anyway I know my own limits when it comes to me. Eventually I am going to need to see a doctor to continue prescribing me medication as I am a client of BIALA. They prescribe me my anti depressants etc as well as Valium. I have thought about going to a doctor that can prescribe both the methadone and the valium and anti depressants I am on. The clinic can only help me while i am on methadone so eventualy when I am off the stuff I will have to goto a doctor and doing that is very veryyyyy stressfull for me and trying to find a doctor when I am off the stuff will be harder because I wil most likely be going through withdrawal syptoms for awhile, so someone who is familiar with that is somebody I want if this makes sense.. If anyone has any ideas about this I would appreciate it.
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Captain Brewster
Bluelight Crew
Bluelights not here to help you source drugs.
If you feel your doctor isn't doing his job properly, then it might be time to see a new one.
There might be a few people here that might have a better idea of weather theres certain docs that can prescribe all these things at once.
If you feel your doctor isn't doing his job properly, then it might be time to see a new one.
There might be a few people here that might have a better idea of weather theres certain docs that can prescribe all these things at once.
laugh
Ex-Bluelighter
iv always wanted to try mandrax.
tallboy31
Greenlighter
Black Rabbit of Inle
Bluelight Crew
We can't tell you which doctors would prescribe the medications you need. Whoever you see at BIALA might be able to recommend a doctor, but a new doctor may request that you go see a psychiatrist (at your own expense) to re-evaluate your need for valium. It may take many visits and many different doctors to find one that is right for you, and you really have no choice but to go through this unless you're willing to go without medications (which is a bad idea).
tallboy31
Greenlighter
Thanks for the advice, i do appreciate what your saying and you are right, even if I was given the names of doctors who can help, it always comes down to the relationship you have with them, and what they are able/willing to do. I dont like taking the stuff, but I know im probably going to be on something for a long time yet.
ive been on valium practically all my life and it takes an enormous amount of self control and will power to not need it. Anyway thanks for the advice I will ask them who I can see they would know that kinda thing anyway since there run by the government.
ive been on valium practically all my life and it takes an enormous amount of self control and will power to not need it. Anyway thanks for the advice I will ask them who I can see they would know that kinda thing anyway since there run by the government.
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