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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV

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Those fucking SSRI's, if doctors really cared about patients best interests they wouldn't prescribe them without WARNING them of the highly common, MAJOR side effects and their physical dependance.

I'm not sure if anything apart from escitalopram will help with the brain zaps Cap'n. I do feel for you though, unlike any doctors who read this forum.
 
It's the worst it's been, I went for a walk and it was shooting up my arms from my shoulders.

I said a couple of weeks in my post before, but now I think it's probably been close to 2 months, due to the slow start (5mg). So nearly 2 months on escitalopram, didn't think it could be this bad after that long on an ssri.

This sucks.

Temaz and codeine it is.
 
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yeh that sucks man, can you ween yourself off the shit slowly?

Those fucking SSRI's, if doctors really cared about patients best interests they wouldn't prescribe them without WARNING them of the highly common, MAJOR side effects and their physical dependance.
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yeh but that would jeopardise their supply of free pens and paid for dinners. gps only practicing 8)

id be letting my dr know for sure in no uncertain terms.

hope your feeling relief soon captn'
 
Ill tell my doc at the next visit. Can't see him till the 28th.

Just hope this wont last too long, it shouldn't, I wasent on them long. Can't imagine how bad it would be if you we're on them long term.

Laugh, I don't want to ween, already 5 days down, may as well ride it.

Cheers everyone.
 
Had some anxiety the last couple of days, don't know if its related to a recent meth binge, but had 5mgs of Xanax in the last 8 hrs, not coming down but stress at work. Running out of bars, hopefully this isn't going to become a pattern.
 
In reply to all of the previous posts concerning SSRI anti depressants, like most people I initially went down the traditional medication route that most physicians favor, with no success. Neither in the form of cure (I can dream! :) Nor even noticeable improvement and of course, I did persist for longer than two weeks. :)

I have been prescribed almost every SSRI/SNRI class of drug that are prescribed in Australia and the only memorable thing about that little experiment is the horrid side effects that I had to endure, both physical and mental.

Eventually after about a year of trying to find an AD that provided sufficient relief of my anxiety, and a GP that genuinely gave a shit about my problems, I was put on a benzo for my anxiety and tried a couple of different anti psychotics to treat a misdiagnosis of bipolar affective disorder. I only bothered with the latter drugs for a very short period of time until my doctor, myself and the psychiatrist all agreed that I was not bipolar at all. These drugs also had nasty side effect profiles and did nothing for my mental health. Well, nothing positive anyway. :) More than anything, they almost made me feel as though I had been poisoned and had a really dirty feeling about them.

I have noticed a trend with a lot of doctors eagerly writing scripts for Seroquel as a first line medication for patients suffering from anxiety and/or depression. In my mind, this is like trying to kill a fly with a throwing dagger. So, in the end I know taking benzos daily for anxiety relief is a chemical band aid and is far from ideal due to inevitable dependance but at least now I can function well enough to make phone calls to book appointments to see psychiatrists and psychologists and actually be capable of showing up to said appointments, to begin learning alternative methods of dealing with a persistant anxiety condition. Eventually with the aim of reducing or perhaps even eliminating the need for anxiolytic medication.

Though we'll see, I am a junkie at the end of the day and the relief that benzos provide is just fucking sexual for those of us who are plagued with this mental war zone. :)

Ash. <3
 
Are there any of u guys who are finding it extremely difficult to get alprazolams prescribed at the moment? I genuinely need them for my anxiety due to opiate withdrawals. I thought Id give it a shot to ride it out and manage to quit it all just using xanax. I can handle the minor physical withdrawal symptoms but the mental is the hardest especially the anxiety which had been elevated quite a bit as of late.

Went back to my GP that I saw few years ago who had me on 2mg alprazolams with 3 repeats. When I saw him he said that they have been told not to prescribe them at all. All he wanted to do is put me anti depressants (Anafranil). I know a number of people who are on anti depressants and the side effects are very nasty not to mention it makes the anxiety a lot worse before it starts to actually work (if it even does work).

I really want to avoid it and tried telling him that I do not intend on taking that whatsoever. Asked for a weaker benzo and he didnt (couldnt?) give me any not even for very short term use which I was intending to use for (only needed 5-10 bars). Years ago 4/5 doctors would prescribe it and now it seems 0/5 would. Theyd either send u back to ur usual GP who prescribed u the benzo originally who prescribe anti deps or send u off for a new technology called DNA dosing which is like a blood test that checks for missing DNA's so they can prescribe u the appropriate anti dep.

So the bottom line is if u have a panic attack no doctor is willing to prescribe u any benzos unless to happen to be very lucky and find one that does which is extremely hard. Ive noticed that ever since there was something on the news about the dangers of benzos that doctors have been told not to prescribe them under any circumstances. It really sucks that even ur own original doctor who knows all of ur problems have changed there ways just because someone advised them to do so, so it reflects back on the patient themselves.
 
Ever since the media made a big uproar about Xanax no doctor has prescribed me any and some GP's even claim it to be a 'street drug'. Valium is easier to get but still a lot of doctors (mostly young doctors) won't go near benzos. Even psychiatrists I've seen would rather put me on SSRI's even though every single SSRI has given me horrible side-effects. I find Valium just as beneficial as Xanax though. I tried some Nitrazepam last night, knocked me out pretty quick, probably wouldn't try it again though.
 
I never have a problem getting Valium & steered clear of Xanax for years. That said I get questioned every time I request a script but unlike oxy I have not been "blacklisted". Is there such a thing as being blacklisted by doctors? I have not tried to source any more as surgery fixed my chronic kidney pain but am curious as they are most effective painkillers used properly.
 
Gotta love it when the pharmacist accidentally gives you twice as many Valium as you were scripted! I wondered why it cost the same for 25 as it used to for a bottle of 50 and got a pleasant surprise when I got home to count them out. I've given the bottle to my girlfriend for safe keeping as I can't be trusted with any addictive drugs, she's going to dish them out for us as we need them over the summer. Nothing beats benzos for amp comedowns - except maybe heroin..
 
^^Thats happened to me before. Some guy sold me a bottle that was supposed to be 25 but the bottle ended up having 50 in it, I only realized after I walked away so that was a nice score!
 
Bonus! The last time I bought Valium off the street I got 18 when I paid for 20, the scumbag slipped 2 out of the bottle after I counted them and handed it back for him to hold while i got cash out of my wallet. I paid a premium for them too.

Anyone else noticed that benzos have got much more expensive over the last year or so? I used to get 10 xanax for what is now the asking price for 4, ive even been asked to pay 4 x what i used to pay - making 1 bar as expensive as what I would usually pay for 25 - 30 Valium. Even Valium which is usually very easy to source has become much rarer and has doubled in price for the most part. The only benzo I can get for a reasonable price is clonazepam, the demand for them seems to be pretty low compared to Xanax and even Valium. I can kind of see why, they're not much fun recreationally but their strength and long half life makes them useful for withdrawal.

Sus I haven't asked for an alpraz script before, I've asked for midazolam (and was instantly knocked back haha) but judging by how rare they've become (for me at least) on the black market I wouldn't be surprised if doctors have tightened up on them. It's probably not a bad thing provided the people who need them are still able to get prescriptions, they cause a fuck load of trouble for people who abuse them. I know a few people who have ended up in the cells because they've done really stupid shit while in a Xanax blackout and I myself have done some stupid things after being careless with them. It causes a lot of problems in the heroin scene, one of my old dealers ruined his reputation because he was taking too many and started making trouble for himself. It can turn people into total mutants when they get carried away with them, they lose things all the time, forget ticks, get careless and get ripped off or busted and generally become really unpleasant to be around. Also I think it causes more OD's when mixed with smack than any other substance apart from maybe alcohol.
 
i'd ceased valium use a few days prior to the end of this last morphine bender so am at a familiar place with the killer insomnia and RLS (mmm, neuropathy) at the height of the valium exiting my system and morphine wd's certainly set in. think it might be time to bring my scripts back out so dad can monitor me like a little child...again.

fuck you all <3
 
Valium half life is about twenty hours is this corrrectimo or no? If correctimo that would mean it would last approximately 10 hours yes?
 
it and it's main metabolites (oxazepam and nor-diazepam) can take up to 200 hours before half elimination.

half life has to do with elimination of the drug. it's not relative to the duration.
 
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