The arguement of decrimalization of hard drugs causing larger problems is so ignorant

[Mycophile]

Who exactly is being thrown in jail for years just for being an addict? No one I know. Usually you are thrown in jail for burglary or assault to feed a habit or trafficking large amounts. These crimes should deserve jail time whether drug use was decriminalised or not.

Well you aren't in America.

Here if you are caught with heroin you can get jail time, probably depending on how much and whether or not it is your first offense.

Where are you from and what are the penalties for being caught with Heroin where you are?

I would say that the majority of countries in the world will probably give someone prison time for being caught with anything other than the smallest amount heroin but I could be wrong.

 

[Professer]

"Drug Sales must be controlled. My first act as Sheriff will be to install, on the courthouse lawn, a bastinado platform and a set of stocks in order to punish dishonest dope dealers in a proper public fashion. Each year these dealers cheat millions of people out of millions of dollars.... it will be the general philosophy of the Sheriff’s office that no drug worth taking should be sold for money." - Hunter S. Thompson on his platform when he ran for Sheriff in Aspen.

He almost won too... the opposition were bussing in old folks from homes n stuff to win.

 

[Ignot]

Oh yeah, make it a misdemeanor to be Cracked the fuck out while the baby of the addict has his diaper full of shit.
Hard Drugs should be persecuted at all costs, no matter what. Unnecessary ad hominem argument

 

[when I dream]

Oh yeah, make it a misdemeanor to be Cracked the fuck out while the baby of the addict has his diaper full of shit.
Hard Drugs should be persecuted at all costs, no matter what. The guy who made this thread must be an opiate user.

Wait so hard drug use must be persecuted no matter what because some people use drugs when they have kids? Just a heads up, not everyone who uses drugs has kids or people who depend on them. There is actually a separate charge to deal with things like this, it's called child abuse. Keep your dumbass opinions to yourself.

 

[Ignot]

Wait so hard drug use must be persecuted no matter what because some people use drugs when they have kids? Just a heads up, not everyone who uses drugs has kids or people who depend on them. There is actually a separate charge to deal with things like this, it's called child abuse. Keep your dumbass opinions to yourself.

Yeah It should be, regardless if you have kids. Smoking crack, Shooting heroin, and doing METH destroy society... Those three hard drugs have no place in the world. Everyone should do whatever they want with their body, but at the same time you should pay for your actions if you get caught with this stuff. Should you be punished just as harshly as the dealer? NO, I don't believe so. But should you get a slap on the wrist like getting caught with a joint? Hell no.

 

[when I dream]

Yeah It should be, regardless if you have kids. Smoking crack, Shooting heroin, and doing METH destroy society... Those three hard drugs have no place in the world. Everyone should do whatever they want with their body, but at the same time you should pay for your actions if you get caught with this stuff. Should you be punished just as harshly as the dealer? NO, I don't believe so. But should you get a slap on the wrist like getting caught with a joint? Hell no.

Well honestly I don't respect the opinion of people who say certain drugs should be prohibited and then go around and post about how they abuse their amphetamine perscription. Hypocrite much?

 

[atreyaferret]

Lmao

 

[Mycophile]

Yeah It should be, regardless if you have kids. Smoking crack, Shooting heroin, and doing METH destroy society... Those three hard drugs have no place in the world. Everyone should do whatever they want with their body, but at the same time you should pay for your actions if you get caught with this stuff. Should you be punished just as harshly as the dealer? NO, I don't believe so. But should you get a slap on the wrist like getting caught with a joint? Hell no.

Being able to do what you want with your body shouldn't have a limit so long as you don't hurt others.

If you hurt others under the influence those charges should be what you pay for but if you sit in your own house and get fucked up on heroin and crack and don't bother anyone it's retarded to say you should be thrown in prison.

 

[Ignot]

Well honestly I don't respect the opinion of people who say certain drugs should be prohibited and then go around and post about how they abuse their amphetamine perscription. Hypocrite much?

I abused my Adderall prescription maybe 4 or 5 times? By taking a double dose. I used to be a crack addict, and used to snort blue and green oxycodone... I have lived in a $600 apartment in a metropolitan ghetto.
I have friends who drive rented cars of the year and sell $10 bags of Heroin and Crack. I have spent hours looking out the peep hole. I have spent thousands of hours nodding off on Boy.

The main reason I despise Hard drugs and the little baggies they come in is that if you choose to decriminalize hard drugs, Why go to school? Why not just go buy a $50 scale and make a $800 investment and start selling bags?

The hard drug dealers live a lavish life style, while stripping kids of Mothers and Fathers. Can this happen with prescription drugs? Of course and it does.

I spent 18 months locked up for doctor shopping and dealing Xanax, I am a felon. And I have a fucked record for the rest of my life....

There are people out there who treat heroin/meth/crack etc* like MDMA and do it a few times a year...Good for you. You are the minority.

 

[pinpoint]

I abused my Adderall prescription maybe 4 or 5 times? By taking a double dose. I used to be a crack addict, and used to snort blue and green oxycodone... I have lived in a $600 apartment in a metropolitan ghetto.
I have friends who drive rented cars of the year and sell $10 bags of Heroin and Crack. I have spent hours looking out the peep hole. I have spent thousands of hours nodding off on Boy.

I don't care if I am a hypocrite dude....The main reason I despise Hard drugs and the little baggies they come in is that if you choose to decriminalize hard drugs, Why go to school? Why not just go buy a $50 scale and make a $800 investment and start selling bags?

The hard drug dealers live a lavish life style, while stripping kids of Mothers and Fathers. Can this happen with prescription drugs? Of course and it does.

I spent 18 months locked up for doctor shopping and dealing Xanax, I am a felon. And I have a fucked record for the rest of my life....

There are people out there who treat heroin/meth/crack etc* like MDMA and do it a few times a year...Good for you. You are the minority.

Do you understand that removing the laws will simultaneously remove the black market associated with those laws? Have you seen what happened to alcohol after prohibition ended? Do you see smugglers running gin & whiskey down from Canada nowadays? No, not really.

You have got to be trolling.

 

[Renz Envy]

We should increase the qualifications for "addictive" medication and put None or Fewer penalties on the things that fall short of highly addictive.

For example:
Things like vyvanse should be as accessible as ephedrine, but you can only get so many a month.
Psychedelics should be legal in certain areas of the US. I think it's a state or a city's right to decide.

Having alcohol and cigarettes as our only legal options greatly limits our free thought and freedom as individuals. Propaganda has caused both sides to become brainwashed on this issue. As a result, there is an unchallenged infringement of our rights that not a single soul is willing to debate. I feel that this fear of social rejection is a form of new-age tyranny.
Speaking out against this heavily fortified brick wall constructed of misinformation and fear will indefinitely result in termination of one's career as a politician.

You are an addict, you are a very sick person, and you deserve help. Putting a felony charge on your background is not help, it's a death sentence.

There's a lot to this issue we don't know, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[mattyb505]

I'm 22 years old. Started off just smoking weed and loved it. Parents are crazy strict, thought weed was Satan. Made my life hell all thru highschool. My only escape was sports and smoking weed with my friends. First got sent to rehab when I was 19 for oxys and weed. Got clean and then relapsed again. Went to rehab again at 21. Relapsed again this last year. Got pulled over for throwing a cig out of the car and had a small amount of heroin on me. I'm now facing felony possession charge and honestly just want to end my life. All my career dreams are now fucked. Don't even want to finish college anymore because what job can I get with a felony? I don't wanna work at taco bell my whole life. I got a 33 on my ACT, played a year of college basketball, and most people would never guess the addiction I've been dealing with for years. Im terrified of going to jail but more terrified of having a felony on my record. Do I wish I was clean? Absolutely. But I don't think people's whole lives should be ruined because of an addiction problem that I've been battling and trying hard to beat for a few years. My first court date is in a month.I don't even know if I can make it that long. I can't sleep every night dreading that day. Ending my life now seems like a better idea every day. No I've never had depression. Yes I am depressed now. My whole life is ruined from a dam cigarette. Just thought I'd share my story of a first hand addiction account and how the laws affect addicts.

 

[mattyb505]

Read my post, its the most recent one. I'm definitely not an idiot, graduated among the top of my class and currently a chemistry major at the university of new mexico. Maybe my story might change your perspective, maybe not. Didn't go into much detail

 

[PsychedelicWizard]

Drugs are just medicine, criminalizing medicine is evil.

 

[rujex]

I'm 22 years old. Started off just smoking weed and loved it. Parents are crazy strict, thought weed was Satan. Made my life hell all thru highschool. My only escape was sports and smoking weed with my friends. First got sent to rehab when I was 19 for oxys and weed. Got clean and then relapsed again. Went to rehab again at 21. Relapsed again this last year. Got pulled over for throwing a cig out of the car and had a small amount of heroin on me. I'm now facing felony possession charge and honestly just want to end my life. All my career dreams are now fucked. Don't even want to finish college anymore because what job can I get with a felony? I don't wanna work at taco bell my whole life. I got a 33 on my ACT, played a year of college basketball, and most people would never guess the addiction I've been dealing with for years. Im terrified of going to jail but more terrified of having a felony on my record. Do I wish I was clean? Absolutely. But I don't think people's whole lives should be ruined because of an addiction problem that I've been battling and trying hard to beat for a few years. My first court date is in a month.I don't even know if I can make it that long. I can't sleep every night dreading that day. Ending my life now seems like a better idea every day. No I've never had depression. Yes I am depressed now. My whole life is ruined from a dam cigarette. Just thought I'd share my story of a first hand addiction account and how the laws affect addicts.

I can imagine that you have a hard time, but its not the end of the world! Eventually there will be career chances you never thought about. E.g. with a good degree you could move to another country for a post graduate degree and find a job there. Tuition fees are often lower and the chances for a sober live are higher in a new environment.

As stupid as it sounds, see it as a chance to over think your live and your goals. You are young; your live ain't over yet - even with some jail time and a felony on your record. Sure a conviction would not make things easier, but going through this can strengthens your personality and character.

"Every obstacle and difficulty is a step in our climb to the heights."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

[PsychedelicWizard]

I'm 22 years old. Started off just smoking weed and loved it. Parents are crazy strict, thought weed was Satan. Made my life hell all thru highschool. My only escape was sports and smoking weed with my friends. First got sent to rehab when I was 19 for oxys and weed. Got clean and then relapsed again. Went to rehab again at 21. Relapsed again this last year. Got pulled over for throwing a cig out of the car and had a small amount of heroin on me. I'm now facing felony possession charge and honestly just want to end my life. All my career dreams are now fucked. Don't even want to finish college anymore because what job can I get with a felony? I don't wanna work at taco bell my whole life. I got a 33 on my ACT, played a year of college basketball, and most people would never guess the addiction I've been dealing with for years. Im terrified of going to jail but more terrified of having a felony on my record. Do I wish I was clean? Absolutely. But I don't think people's whole lives should be ruined because of an addiction problem that I've been battling and trying hard to beat for a few years. My first court date is in a month.I don't even know if I can make it that long. I can't sleep every night dreading that day. Ending my life now seems like a better idea every day. No I've never had depression. Yes I am depressed now. My whole life is ruined from a dam cigarette. Just thought I'd share my story of a first hand addiction account and how the laws affect addicts.

Read the Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle.

Your life isn't over, it is an incredible life you just need to change how you perceive it.