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The Answer to Quitting ANY Drug "Addiction"

garuda -

Well said! I was gonna point that out myself, but you beat me to it. Not only that, you said it much better than I ever could have.
 
Sorry you feel that way, Air. But I'm not intending that at all! I think we have the answers inside us too. However, I was just emphasizing the importance of what I'm talking about.. I sure can bet you it is the only thing I know that works proven and successful.

Air said:
Sure, it's not a bad thought at all, but please, stop talking about it like it's the one and only answer to the addiction problem. This ain't the Dr. Phil show...8)

If it did help you, congratulations, that's great. But don't act like the rest of us are some kind of dumbasses that just doesn't understand this amazing "fact" of yours..8(
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garuda said:
Am I going crazy or did you just take offense at yourself?
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Nope.. I do not suggest you follow my philosophy only if you truly want to.. It's all your choice. I do not condone believing in other people's philosophies or stating quotes from other people unless they are my own..
 
smackem said:
addiction is very biological man. At least with opiates. You fix my opiate receptors and depression, and I will 'set my limits'
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Remember, everything you are speaking right now is all mindset.. That's all it is bro..
 
Spirit I think what you are doing is subconsciously lying to yourself and convincing yourself, I am yet to be convinced that addictions aren't real.
 
OverDriven said:
I think that claims of hardcore withdrawal after only 2 weeks of heroin use really point towards the OP being right. You should feel small effects, but quitting a 2 week habit should be a walk in the park.

Look...I know that physical withdrawals do exist. I've experienced them. However, the OP is right in some ways. We make these withdrawals so much worse for ourselves because of how much we believe that they will happen. This is specially true of the mental addiction. We make ourselves obsess over it because thats what we think we should do.
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I've done it well over two weeks, I'm giving him 2 weeks to feel the beginning stages of it.
 
I mean I believe our behaviors can be changed by physically reworking them.. For example: You always pick up a cigarette with your left hand and feel like you can't stop..

Well physically speaking, first you want to stop making those motions(even if it feels hard at first) just do it anyway. Secondly, you want to completely disassociate yourself from any kind of "drug" "speech" that is imposed on you or you think of in your mind..

"Addiction" = gone.
 
phrozen said:
I'll tell myself that I'm only imagining withdrawal next time I go through it. Victory!
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Well said.. You can't deny the physical symptoms from opiate or benzo withdrawal. Some drugs are just mentally addicting, but others are physically addicting. You can't trick your brain into thinking that down-regulation isn't happening. It just doesn't work that way.

On the other hand, it is true that a large portion of any addiction is psychological. Stopping any addiction requires a lot of willpower. That goes without saying.
 
SpiritSupreme --

You cannot possibly believe what you are proposing if you have even periphrial experience with addictive drugs. There is so much documentation supporting the existence of neurological changes occurring in the brain of an addict -- to propose that a simple alteration of one's internal dialogue will completely annihilate all mental aspects of addiction is ludicrous. It shows one of two things on your part: Either total ignorance about the phenomenon of addiction, or the desire to create a pointless debate about a topic that those of us who can read already know enough to recognize how ridiculous your proposition is. Given your choice of language (laced with a constant attempt at drama), I'm gonna go with the first possibility -- you are ignorant about addiction. I humbly suggest that you at least do some cursory online research about addiction before posting any further suggestions about how to handle it. After all, the possibility exists (no matter how small) that a first time user of cocaine (which is primarily mentally addicting) could read your post and believe that so long as they control their inner dialogue, they will be fine. In other words, they could be led to believe what you apparently believe, which is that mental addiction is simply a matter of will. This could lead a person to acquire an addiction that they might well have avoided if they had been properly informed to begin with.

Addiction, physical and/or mental, is not a matter of will. It's a matter of physiology.
 
Wow, I'm telling my self that there are no such thing drugs and now there aren't, wait, I just got a call and my buddy has OC's, or does he?????
 
synchrojet said:
SpiritSupreme --

You cannot possibly believe what you are proposing if you have even periphrial experience with addictive drugs. There is so much documentation supporting the existence of neurological changes occurring in the brain of an addict -- to propose that a simple alteration of one's internal dialogue will completely annihilate all mental aspects of addiction is ludicrous. It shows one of two things on your part: Either total ignorance about the phenomenon of addiction, or the desire to create a pointless debate about a topic that those of us who can read already know enough to recognize how ridiculous your proposition is. Given your choice of language (laced with a constant attempt at drama), I'm gonna go with the first possibility -- you are ignorant about addiction. I humbly suggest that you at least do some cursory online research about addiction before posting any further suggestions about how to handle it. After all, the possibility exists (no matter how small) that a first time user of cocaine (which is primarily mentally addicting) could read your post and believe that so long as they control their inner dialogue, they will be fine. In other words, they could be led to believe what you apparently believe, which is that mental addiction is simply a matter of will. This could lead a person to acquire an addiction that they might well have avoided if they had been properly informed to begin with.

Addiction, physical and/or mental, is not a matter of will. It's a matter of physiology.
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Very well put
 
SpiritSupreme said:
Sorry, my appologies. I did not mention this was for psychological reasons only..

Physical addiction - tough it out.
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Then what the fuck did you make this thread for? Only your average idiot doesnt know psychological addiction is in your head. You know you very well meant it for physical addiction and are changing your stance now that you look stupid for what you said.

And "Physical addiction - tought it out". If only it were that easy.
 
^ nope, its all in ur noggin
along with the rest of existence
and you have absolute control over it
so long as you just believe!!!

like the other day, there was this tree in front of me, and i didnt feel like walking around it
so i blinked, and it vanished

clearing the path is just that easy
 
Perhaps Spirit is right... to some degree. But Spirit, you cannot just tell someone to adjust their mindset. Changing one's perception must be, more often than not, initiated by the person himself.

So really, your preaching is useless.
 
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