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New booze laws make the city and Kings Cross a safer place as assault incidents fall by half in wake of lockout laws

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VIOLENT assaults in Kings Cross and the CBD have fallen by half since the government’s lockout laws were introduced last month.

Police and ambulance officers have also reported huge corresponding drops in the number of bloody attacks in the party precincts.

The Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing has inspected 276 venues in a 33-day period, with one in six bars and clubs slapped with breach notices.

Assistant Commissioner Mark Murdoch said the number of assaults had halved since the O’Farrell government enforced its lockout legislation on February 24 while a NSW Ambulance spokeswoman cited an almost 30 per cent drop in the assault numbers treated by ambulance officers compared to the same period last year.

“Reported assaults have dropped significantly — almost by half,” Mr Murdoch said. “We are now into the fifth weekend of the new regulations and acts of violence and drunkenness are down.”

Under the new laws, all venues in Kings Cross, the CBD and the Rocks must enforce a 1.30am lockout and stop serving drinks after 3am, and bottle shops must close at 10pm.

The lockout was a key part of The Daily Telegraph’s campaign to curb violence in Kings Cross and on George St.

Despite critics’ comments that it would simply move problems with alcohol and violence elsewhere, Mr Murdoch said police had not seen any trend towards people flooding into Surry Hills and Pyrmont when the city and Kings Cross pubs and clubs closed. There has been no statistical increase in assaults in other parts of Sydney.

“We kept a very close eye on that and there have been no spikes in incidents in those (surrounding) areas. It has been very pleasing,” he said.

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A NSW Ambulance spokeswoman said the number of assaults from February 24 to March 27 compared to the same period last year was a reduction to 71.5 per cent of the previous amount.

“The response tally for the 2014 period was 98, as compared to 137 for the same period last year,” she said.

Police minister Mike Gallacher said the hardline approach was working.

“The NSW government is delivering on the community’s expectation to crack down on alcohol-related violence. Early indications from police are that the new measures are showing signs of success,” he said.

OLGR executive director Paul Newson said it was too early to make an “informed judgment” on the effectiveness of the new laws after only a month.

Mr Newson said that there had been general issues with venues failing to meet RSA requirements, and that six businesses had been slapped with “strike” offences under the three strikes scheme.

“Licensees have been warned that they will face regulatory action if they fail to comply with the new conditions,” he said. “As well as loss of public reputation, penalties for a breach of the new conditions include potential fines of up to $11,000 and/or imprisonment of up to 12 months as well as strikes under the government’s three strikes disciplinary scheme.”


The OLGR has found no serious breaches of the 3am service bans and only a single breach of the 1.30am lockout when one venue allowed two patrons re-entry to collect personal belongings.

On Friday night, Kings Cross bar Dejavu was ordered to close for 72 hours after two breaches of the liquor laws.

It can re-open tonight from 7pm after OLGR alleged that the nightclub served alcohol to a minor and a heavily intoxicated woman. CCTV cameras at the club were also not in operation.

The state government yesterday announced that police officers would enforce new $500 fines for offensive language and $1100 for drunk and disorderly behaviour after being told to move on.

Earlier this month, St Vincent’s Hospital emergency services director Gordian Fulde said there were fewer people admitted from alcohol-fuelled violence and a significant reduction in the number of coward punch victims.

While violence statistics have plummeted, nightclub and bar industry groups have reported a downturn in trade by up to 30 per cent since the lockouts came into effect.

TAMER, QUIETER STREETS AS LOCKOUT LAWS AND GREATER POLICE PRESENCE CURBS THE REVELLERS Naomi White

IT’S been a month since the state government imposed the 1.30am lockouts and 3am last drinks — and the once-angry mile and Kings Cross have become much tamer.

The Daily Telegraph spent Saturday night in a much quieter Kings Cross — that is, until the 3am spill, when revellers flowed on to the streets once the booze was turned off.

The subdued atmosphere was also reinforced by the heavy presence of police and sniffer dogs most of the night, with officers occasionally having to step in to handle a few minor fights.

Queues into clubs stayed short until 1am, when groups of friends could be heard arguing over where to spend the rest of their night, often rushing to get in the line before the 1.30am cut-off.

As the lockout approached, there was no queue at Sydney’s biggest club, the Ivy, from 1.15am to 1.30am. However, there was still one reveller who argued with security on the issue, arguing his phone said it was 1.29am instead of 1.30am.

But most of the revellers caught in the lockout appeared to accept their fate peacefully, and by 2am they had begun heading home, searching for a taxi or a snack.

Friends Jessica Carroll, 21, Amy Bodeker, 22 and Carina Innes, 20, from Campbelltown said this was the first night they had been out since the laws had been put in place.

“It’s not the same at all,” Ms Innes said, “no one wants to come out any more because of the laws — 1.30am is ridiculous, what if you want to go somewhere else after that? You don’t want to be stuck at a place for four hours.”

The group said they had booked a hotel in the city for the night, with taxis too expensive and the nightride bus taking an hour-and-a-half to reach Campbelltown.

Friends Renee Rickard, 19, and Eliza Hearn, 18, left before the 3am last drinks to beat the rush for cabs, but said they couldn’t find one to take them to Castle Hill.

“We haven’t been here much since the lockouts, because there’s no point, because we know we’re going to be fighting for cabs all night and we know there’s just going to be drama,” Ms Rickard said.

At 3.30am, hundreds of people left the Ivy at once, all milling on the street waiting for a taxi.

BAR KING UNCORKS SURPRISE IN CBD Grant Jones

NIGHTCLUB baron Justin Hemmes has revealed the purchase of a new CBD venue in King St, scotching rumours he is avoiding the city because of the crackdown on drinking and violence.

Hemmes’s Merivale group bought the Noble Canteen, previously Trumps Tavern, six weeks ago and intends to turn it into a pop-up bar for six months before deciding on its future.

“I love the city, it’s a wonderful part of Sydney. It trades five, six days a weeks, which is great. It’s an exciting place to be,” Hemmes said from the South Island of New Zealand, where he is on a surfing holiday. “In the last 15 years, it’s come from pretty much a barren wasteland in terms of food and beverage options to a hub of dining and drinking. The more exciting ventures we have in the city the more it keeps it alive.”

Hemmes intends the pop-up at 50 King St, dubbed A Work in Progress, to serve Thai street food, plus fresh fruit and juice-based cocktails and host an art gallery.

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^ I've always been surprised by how much better I've felt when I've stopped drinking for a decent amount of time. It's easy to underestimate the long term shitty effects you get when you're drinking regularly just because you don't know any different. It's been 8 and a half months since I've had a drink now and I don't plan on going back. I'm surprised by how little I've missed it, actually, considering what a booze hound I used to be.
 
I love booze - it's my DOC these days - is about the only thing that makes life worth living - eases the pain of the dark existential nightmare that is life. Hey, how about those $2.70 bottles of shiraz-merlot from Aldi. Total win.
 
Alcohol is the only drug I have a problem not consuming, started to cut out the mid week drinking as I was starting to get pains in my back which probably isnt good
 
My last drink was on April 5th, and it was only one because as the birthday girl my bf insisted. I used to drink before, never overly to puking, but now I avoid it. One of the worst drugs out there, I can't believe it's legal and weed isn't. Not saying that it should be, but alcohol just causes so much problems and is only legal because money comes first. You may say it has a place in society because of tradition, but I don't see China smoking opium anymore.
 
^^ thats probably because you've never been to china :p from my understanding, opium is still rife through some parts of asia.. alcohol only seems to cause problems when consumed in large amounts or by people who cant handle it.. although many BLers hate alcohol and will disagree, it seems to be the case of 'dont blame the drug, blame the user'...

imagine if everyone drank responsibly (no more than a 6 pack throughout a night), wouldnt that be great? and I disagree, I believe its only still legal because hey, look what happened during prohibition 8) the law has enough shit on their hands with our meth problem without having to throw illicit alcohol supply in the mix...
 
I utterly detest alcohol. Have seen to much messed up shit from this legal and socially accepted even encouraged substance. I think alcohol is as hard a drug as fucking heroin if abused. Be that daily use or binge drinking. I've seen people get so messed up from just alcohol alone that one would think they were on pcp and meth combined. Fuck Etoh it's evil poison.

A glass of red with a nice dinner is another thing. It's literally a single 150-200 ml glass no more and is savored to refresh the palate between mouthfuls. A cold beer, and I mean a single beer, in the midst of summer can be enjoyable. The odd scotch on the rocks with a good book before bed is also enjoyable. Not because you get pissed or intoxicated in any way. It's the taste.

Otherwise just drink 95% pure ethanol regardless of if it's denatured or not cause that is what excessive or even occasional binge drinking really equates to. Hell even drinking 2-3 beers every other night ends up causing liver issues... Fuck Etoh.
 
To be fair LP, if you binged on alcohol any where near as much as you do on other drugs it is little wonder you have a hard time with alcohol. If all your socialising is hanging around nightclub districts then I can understand having a negative image of alcohol. Getting into fights and vomiting on yourself is something a very small percentage of the population consider having a good time. Reality is most people grow out of this stage by 25-30 and settle into using alcohol like any other food, for social enhancement and in moderation

It takes a lot of effort to kill yourself with alcohol. Most people with no tolerance will pass out and vomit or shit themselves way before they poison themselves. Choking on your own vomit or walking in front of a car is more likely than alcohol poisoning. People look at a 40 yr old alcoholic and say, "He is so young" but reality is you need 20 sold years of moderately heavy drinking to kill your self. You will harm yourself just as quickly with a junk food addiction. The really young guys I know who have destroyed their liver before they were 30 were the ones who would drink a bottle of vodka a day for several years first. You don't need more than a single class at high school to teach your children that this sort of habit is unsustainable surely?

Compare this with a 12 month meth habit then come and tell me which is more damaging.
 
Gotta say for once I pretty much agree with 1KW on this one, it is a little odd to me how much alcohol hate there is on sites like Bluelight, don't get me wrong, when I was younger I used to engage in it a little bit myself. The only logical reason I can think of for it is people resent the fact their DOC isn't legal while alcohol is.

I do think alcohol is a pretty addictive drug though, more so than a lot of drinkers actually give credit to, I know for me personally I have used pretty much every drug under the sun barring a lot of the more recent RC's, and for me personally it is the hardest drug for me to moderate its use. I have no issue using heroin or meth a few times per year or less these days, but even after months of effort I have been unsuccessful in reducing the amount of alcohol I consume as much I would like.

The truth is that most drugs are safe if used sensibly and in moderation, and all drugs will have pretty negative consequences for the user if abused in the long term, alcohol is no different.
 
One of the worst drugs out there, I can't believe it's legal and weed isn't.

Weed is much more problematic for me, personally. I don't feel the need to drink as soon as I get up but if I have weed I can't stop myself from smoking in the morning & completely ruining my day. I know alcohol is more toxic than THC but smoking has done terrible things to my body, when I smoke weed (or even vape for that matter) I get all kinds of funky chest pains. Weed makes me depressed as shit, alcohol changes my mood for the better. Sure, everybody's situation is different but the whole weed v alcohol thing just doesn't stack up in my circumstances.
 
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Same as me, i find it makes me depressed, anxious, uncomfortable, overthinking, cant stand smoking weed anymore. Used to enjoy it but doesnt agree with me now. I love booze but have abused it on and off for years, its brutal
 
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^ I've always been surprised by how much better I've felt when I've stopped drinking for a decent amount of time. It's easy to underestimate the long term shitty effects you get when you're drinking regularly just because you don't know any different. It's been 8 and a half months since I've had a drink now and I don't plan on going back. I'm surprised by how little I've missed it, actually, considering what a booze hound I used to be.

Very well said. I was talking with my psych about this and he said most people don't realize it, but even a small amount of alcohol can have 'sub-hangover' after effects which last for days, such as heightened anxiety. It just feels like such a dirty drug (especially after taking opioids now for a while). I'm dismayed at how much I used to - and so many countless people still do - abuse it. Do have to admit though that for panic attacks a couple of full-strength Belgian ales can act as an easy (and often the only) solution. As a result I now class myself as a "medical" user of alcohol, which means two Hoegaardens roughly every couple of weeks.
 
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I used to hate drinking til I met my current partner. I was always a "druggie" I.e opies/meth/benzos/pot but since benzos have been hard to acquire I usually have 1-3 glasses of white wine a night and it helps with my anxiety and insomnia. I can only drink wine and some spirits though. Beer and the rest just make me feel sick.
 
kidney and liver results came back 100% which was a huge shock as I drink over a liter of wine on average daily...

am starting to put on a bit of fat from all the sugars but.. still look like a skinny fucker with a shirt on (Im 6'2" and 89kg) but you can tell Im a piss head once I take my shirt off lol still gotta a fair bit of muscle because I am currently working as a laborer

still favor my dry ciders and wine.. cab. merlots and sauvignon blancs as of late
 
I cracked a bottle of red the other night that had turned to vinegar. I couldn't help but think that my MDMA I have stored away for an anniversary in a few years will fair much better
 
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