The 6-APB thread

[blauwelichten]

Good Christ! Discluding the ashtray chick, what are you people?!

No wonder so many of these threads descended into farce, and now I'm being dragged in.

I give. We should treat these RC vendors as if they're huge multinationals, because that's a sensible analogy; buy as if we were buying something as mundane as tomatoes, because that too is a sensible analogy; and absolve ourselves of any and all personal responsibility when indulging in substance abuse.

Thankfully I'm off for the weekend. I hope you're all still alive when I get back!

Right its pretty simple, scheisservendors regardless of their, size, global market share or international corporate influence on government policy, even the one man band in his shed, should deliver what they say they will, too often they'll happily palm you off with something that isn't the substance you originally purchased or some sub-standard, low-quality, eric-style scheisser powder. The modern RC vendor is no better than the kind of cunt who'll palm you off with the extra TV that they packed into the van that morning that's actually an empty box, or the kind of scum that sell pips instead of ecstasy while telling you they're the best pills ever. The market's full of hustlers. Finding a decent, reliable, honest RC vendor is difficult at best.
And something else do you often go round picking on peoples weaknesses to win arguments?
I think you should apologize to that lady because even if you don't think you were picking on her because of her health issues, she thought you did.
Just because it's the internet there is no need to be discourteous is there.

 

[GlassCage]

O.K. I finally got around to trying my free sample of off-white 6-apb powder. It fizzed and turned purple after 5 seconds with a Marquis test. I'm still a little "E-tarded", so this wont be a proper trip-report. First off, the sample was supposed to contain 115mg but weighed to only 80mg. Lucky for me, because 80mg was more than enough. It was coming on strong withing 30 minutes. I puked my guts out after about 50 mins. It was strange because I felt very over-heated during the come-up but not during the come-down. After it kicked-in It felt almost identical to e cut with meth (meth-bomb). It felt closer than any others i've tried including m1 mixed with mdai. Music appreciation, talkativeness, rushes, slight eye-wiggles, jaw grinding though not severe, etc. The problem was with the come-down about 6 hours after it was taken. You dont really notice it wearing off and there is major time-dilation. When I started to come-down I noticed a pressure in my head, and when ever I would exert too much energy I would get sharp pains in my brain. Even walking too fast would cause the pains, I was scared that I could be close to a stroke or something so I took 1mg of klonopin and 2 Advil. After an hour or so the pressure and pain began to fade. Thank god for Benzos!!! I was able to sleep about 8 hours after taking it, but dont think I could of without the aid of Klonopin. I awoke today feeling dazed but speedy still. Over all this is the closest thing I've had to e, but it was more speedy. It also seems stronger by weight. What worries me was the head pressure and pains during the come-down. This could be VERY dangerous, please be careful with this stuff. It feels great, but also dangerous. Make sure if you take this you have Benzo's available! And please be careful. Hope this helps.....

Yup, that's 6-apb alright. Sounds identical to my experiences. A few hours of dubious pleasure followed by a day of agitation and fear. Worth it? No. Shame, we all had high hopes for this one!

Never mind, 5-IAI is on the horizon ... :D

 

[MrDoIt]

Hehe....Oh always such good vibes in this thread !! While BlueLight are trying to promote Harm Reduction, members are wanting to rip each others heads off !! Its been a fucking epic one this drama !!!

Will be trying out the "proper stuff" in a while so Ill try and write a little of effects and so on for anyone that is still even remotely interested...Its a 125mg dose - so Ill say my prayers now and see you all in the afterlife.

 

[annaminx]

I feel the question should, Does anyone know if the second batch is 6apb..

BINGO!!


i think the key to all our arguing is that other then those of us with phd's in chemistry, and their own high tech lab at their disposal (better then the shity dodgey ones we see on video clips in china, where quite frankly i wouldnt trust them to make me a cake mix let alone a dangerous new unknown psychoactive substance..but for some reason i do) we dont know whats what site to site, batch to batch, within batches.....we, well dont have a clue, quite literally what were arguing about!!

i posted this on another thread, but as a side effect, i remember in my misspent mdma youth that midweek melancholy and shityness used to kick in, i find this x10, about 2-3 days after use i feel really SHITTY*, however i havnt noticed a mood drop. saying that i havnt taken it every weekend for a month lol so i cant tell what long term regular use would do.... i noticed during the Meow fad that when i was using it regularly i really suffered the effects of low serotonin and not only was it a mid week blues, but the "walking through treacle" level, i wonder how 6-apb will pan out to the people who we all know will be tossing tablet after tablet down their throats will feel after a few weeks.

*by shitty i mean im agitated and grumpy mostly when having to deal with anyone other then myself. however tbh im like that anyway, but more so.

 

[caramello]

Received this email from a vendor today, edited out anything identifiable, hope it doesn't count as vendor talk! Thought it could be of interest, although I feel that they should publish the actual results so some chemistry bods can have a look. At least they say they won't be selling any more crap!


Following the ban on cathinones on the 16th of April this year, we regrettably had to stop selling all related products. It was our intention to stock a new range of research chemicals and we have been busy trying to source high purity products such as 6-ADP, MDAI and 5-IAI. Following intensive tests of all the currently available compounds in the UK market, it is our conclusion that the majority of the products that are available are either of a very low purity or contain very different chemicals to that which are being marketed. We have detailed below some of our findings.
Until we are satisfied that we are able to supply the high grade of chemicals that our customers have come to expect, we will unfortunately not be able to offer any of these new products.

6-APB

Pellets, capsules and powdered variations of these products have been tested and the results have been varied. Some pellets did contain 6-APB but also contained caffeine and A-PVP which is understand to be an illegal controlled substance in the UK. Tests on capsules and powders were shown to contain no 6-APB but contained other controlled substances which are also illegal in the UK. Results have concluded that although 6-APB is available in the UK the samples that were tested contained chemicals that are controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act.

5-IAI

None of the tested samples contained 5-IAI. Various other controlled chemicals including Mephedrone, MDPV and Naphyrone were found to be in these samples. The results concluded that there is currently no 5-IAI available in the UK and any products that are offered for sale contain other unknown chemicals that could be illegal and controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act.

MDAI

Various samples of MDAI have been tested. Although earlier samples were of a very low purity level, recent samples have shown higher purity levels.

Additionally some of the samples tested contained no MDAI but other controlled chemicals. The results concluded that although there is high purity MDAI available unless you are able to obtain analytical data of the chemical you have purchased you cannot be sure that the compound is pure or even contains MDAI.

Naphyrone

9 out of 10 samples of Naphyrone tested did not contain Naphyrone but contained Mephedrone, MDPV or other substances controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act. The results concluded that if purchasing Naphyrone you are highly likely to be purchasing a controlled substance.

NRG-1,2,3 and E-1,2,3, Eric 1,2,3 etc

All were found to contain controlled substances which are banned under the Misuse of Drugs Act.


Due to these results we would urge caution to anyone purchasing any of these chemicals in the UK as the majority contain controlled substances and are illegal under the Misuse of Drugs Act. Although there are batches of high purity MDAI available from a small selection of sources the consistency of supply can vary. If you do purchase any of these chemicals it is highly possible that you may be breaching the Misuse of Drugs Act for possession of a controlled substance. We would advise any purchaser to obtain a recent analytical test of the chemical to ensure that they do not fall foul of the law. Even if you are unaware that the product you purchase is illegal you could still face prosecution for possession of a controlled substance.


Please note that the tests are not conclusive and are only based upon a selection of samples. However these tests do correlate with other recent tests.

 

[annaminx]

Received this email from a vendor today, edited out anything identifiable, hope it doesn't count as vendor talk! .

please edit this if it crosses the rules, but i got the same email, it was a site that took my money and never did the goods, apparently registered to some university accomodation if u google them you find many complaints. the ripped me off and a friend with no communications after payment.

however the report the emailed is probably genuine and worryingly so, but ill eat my hat (if i had one) if the vendor actually did those tests and not cut and pasted them from somewhere himself.... if u look closely the link they give to back it up is months out of date and a newspaper article. its kinda related, but its not talking about the tests, or the results.

i think this site is just being shut down due to complaints and thats why they are now opeining a "new site" for herbals only

minx x

 

[annaminx]

(in seperate post incase the first broke rules)

ok, pellets! - i cant remember the frist ones, but the last had a raised edge, like a almost-faded out moon shape on the top, and were pinky kinda orange colour.

i just received one today that is completly smooth and much larger pill.

i read the new batch are ment to be SMALLER then the last,

anyone remember/know if there is ment to be a design, or marking on the pellets?

thanks

minxxxx

Hehe....Oh always such good vibes in this thread !! While BlueLight are trying to promote Harm Reduction, members are wanting to rip each others heads off !! Its been a fucking epic one this drama !!!

ive noticed this, every other "good" drug in history has united a generation, launched a lifestyle or "culture" be it festival hippies, ravers, mods, whatever, they were UNITED.....this drug seems to do nothing but make people argue, get poisoned, being ripped off...it doesnt look like the start of something thats going to define a generation or party people.....

 

[JedTheHumanoid]

^ there was no design on the ones I received from the first batch.

 

[k.kat]

(in seperate post incase the first broke rules)

ok, pellets! - i cant remember the frist ones, but the last had a raised edge, like a almost-faded out moon shape on the top, and were pinky kinda orange colour.

i just received one today that is completly smooth and much larger pill.

i read the new batch are ment to be SMALLER then the last,

anyone remember/know if there is ment to be a design, or marking on the pellets?

thanks

minxxxx



ive noticed this, every other "good" drug in history has united a generation, launched a lifestyle or "culture" be it festival hippies, ravers, mods, whatever, they were UNITED.....this drug seems to do nothing but make people argue, get poisoned, being ripped off...it doesnt look like the start of something thats going to define a generation or party people.....

my first pellet was smooth & big,
then i ordered 4 from different place and one was big & smooth, three were smaller & had the V shape on top
all of which were ordered before they were sold out

 

[dellusive]

I am curious as to whether the benzene element in the benzofuran ring could possibly create risk of cancer???

 

[chasing_s]

however the report the emailed is probably genuine and worryingly so, but ill eat my hat (if i had one) if the vendor actually did those tests and not cut and pasted them from somewhere himself.... if u look closely the link they give to back it up is months out of date and a newspaper article. its kinda related, but its not talking about the tests, or the results.

thats the one.

minx x

it's a mixture of http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c3564.full?sid=5060e947-d375-428f-ba31-c6e1d0812781 , http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2010/07/29/qjmed.hcq132.abstract and a post over in ADD http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8697023&postcount=150

 

[alanpower]

careful

amazingly powerful viciously comulsive even more than mcat fine line betwwen hugley enjoyable and permanant damage . Speaking from a monthof in and out of hotel persued by non existent entities.Massive panic attacks and paranoia.Be very very careful.

 

[alanpower]

mdpv and lidnocaine

taken these 2 under 1 heading ill not name just tried it .Very soon takiing 1 to 2 grams daily.Bear in mind 70 mg is strong. Hospitalised homeless disowned paranoind hallucinating most of the time . Audio hallucinations all night. Very lucky to be alive.HERES THE SCARY BIT .CANT SAY ID NEVER TRY AGAIN......I consider my self to be a strong willed person and still had no controll. If you were to do this id guess you would die.This shit is satans dandrufff stay away i dont mind begging you willl loose everything and eveyrone.

 

[alanpower]

to me its very very close to mdma...other people mite think Diff'rent!

1 gram like a rollercoaster combined ghost train and chased by killers all in the dark.... lovley

 

[chasing_s]

alan with respect, this thread is about 6-ABP not MDPV / Lidocaine or in fact I suspect the latest incarnation of Ivory Wave.

 

[nuke]

vendor discussion

minx x

arg

 

[Xorkoth]

Okay everyone, this thread is getting crazy... again. I am going to go through this and clean it out as I have time, but in the meantime here are the requirements for posting here:

• Do not make any personal attacks... this includes calling people names or otherwise breaking apart the ability for anyone to be expected to actually stick to the discussion. That's just how it is, regardless of how you feel about it. We don't do attacks or meanness in PD, period. Any personal attacks will receive an infraction, bottom line.
• Do not discuss vendors! Or anything hinting at vendors! Or anything at all sourcing-related! I don't know how many times we have to say this but Bluelight is not the place for vendor discussion... other places for that aren't hard to find. Any blatant vendor/source discussion will be infracted. If it's obvious to us that you didn't mean to, or you made sure to let us know that you don't want it there if it's determined to break the rules, we will remove the post and give you a friendly verbal warning. Repeating that will cause infractions.

I hate to come in here and try to be "the man", but it's for good reasons. And regarding the meanness I see here between people, we have worked hard in PD since 2006 to transform it from an elitist, snobby place where the great exalted psychonauts dispensed insults to anyone who didn't write in a scholarly manner and who asked a question they deemed "stupid". Now it's a place where anyone can come and get information and find a loving and supportive community to join. I am very proud of what we have created and as a result of that we simply won't tolerate deliberate meanness towards another person, for any reason.

Alright, carry on. Let's do our best to keep this thread clean so that people looking for information can locate it as easily as possible. A bunch of extra posts in the thread, especially ones filled with bickering and off-topic comments, makes it way harder to find anything, and it swells the thread up hugely so that we end up with 4 versions, 3 of which reached 1500-2000 posts each. And that makes it much, much harder.

Make sense? I'd like for everyone to understand why it is we're being so strict about this. A shitload of people use this forum for information who never even register and browse anonymously. We need to keep it presentable to the world since we are a big source of information in personal research about drugs.

 

[gymstud]

i got some powder tuc about 100mg noting
a hour later tuck another
another hour felt something later had anther 100
ended up have 500mg in tottal was pretty fucked not slept in two nights

 

[B9]

I'd prefer something that made me feel fanfuckingtastic rather then pretty fucked - I feel pretty fucked after work & I get paid for that

 

[deko]

@Gymstud I'm pretty sure what you took was not 6-whatthefuckisit.