The 6-APB thread

[RClabRat]

I admit it's speculation, which is why I encouraged anyone who could provide proof to come forward, whether I'm right or wrong I'd like to know either way.

I don't know how common it is to develop serotonin syndrome from a single substance, MDA is one, but usually serotoning syndrome only occurs when there are multiple chemicals affecting serotonin levels.

The powder I had definitely caused me to suffer serotonin syndrome, and I don't take any medication or supplements so it caused it on it's own.

Quoted from wikipedia:- 'Extremely high levels of serotonin can have toxic and potentially fatal effects, causing a condition known as serotonin syndrome.In practice, such toxic levels are essentially impossible to reach through an overdose of a single anti-depressant drug, but require a combination of serotonergic agents, such as an SSRI with an MAOI'

 

[etage]

The powder you have could be a mix of anything.

 

[RClabRat]

Well, I think it would be a very big coincidence is they sent me a mix that produces the exact symptoms at overdose levels as MDA. But until it's proven I can't say you're definitely wrong.

 

[Osky_P]

Shock, horror, alert the daily mail... someone has adverse effects from ingesting 650mg of unknown chemical.

Holy shit man, this is exactly how and why drugs get banned. How many posts on countless threads on this subject have discussed HR for this?

I would go to my gp and tell him that i've consumed 650mg of UNKNOWN powder and suffering the possible effects of serotonin syndrome and they may likely give you benzo or admit you to a & e.

Hope you get better.

 

[RClabRat]

the serotonin syndrome effects are no longer present they gradually decreased in intensity eventually disappearing after 48 hrs, but I am DEFINITELY going to my GP to get checked out.

It would help if everyone had the same stuff, how was I supposed to know that not only did it take 3 hrs to begin to feel anything noticable, but also lasted much much longer than any user had reported.

This is exactly how people OD on street drugs, they take the same dose the regularly take and Overdose because of higher purity.

and in 6-apb terms I know 650mg is a large dose, but looking back at the recent popular RCs probably clouded my judgement, 650mg of mephedrone was nothing, I never expected the same amount of this stuff to almost kill me.

Edit:- After I see my GP I will post full results of any and all tests and any treatment I am given.

 

[Osky_P]

To be fair there has been lots of reports about the lengthy onset of 6-apb , if that is even what you had, but yes GP's a good idea. And more thorough research before dabbling. I honestly believe it's saved me few times since dabbling with RC's.

All the best.

 

[seejay33]

I mean this in the nicest possible way but your a danger to yourself. Mate taking that much, god forbid imagine what could have happened if you'd consumed that much sample powder ...

Even relating to mephedrone on another person that much could have messed them up ! Seriously mate do ya research before u buy hardly any vendors can be trusted nowadays if you continue to consume. Personally id lay off them before u.seriously hurt yourself or worse, this is what the media want this type of publicity ...

Seejay

the serotonin syndrome effects are no longer present they gradually decreased in intensity eventually disappearing after 48 hrs, but I am DEFINITELY going to my GP to get checked out.

It would help if everyone had the same stuff, how was I supposed to know that not only did it take 3 hrs to begin to feel anything noticable, but also lasted much much longer than any user had reported.

This is exactly how people OD on street drugs, they take the same dose the regularly take and Overdose because of higher purity.

and in 6-apb terms I know 650mg is a large dose, but looking back at the recent popular RCs probably clouded my judgement, 650mg of mephedrone was nothing, I never expected the same amount of this stuff to almost kill me.

Edit:- After I see my GP I will post full results of any and all tests and any treatment I am given.

 

[RClabRat]

I mean this in the nicest possible way but your a danger to yourself. Mate taking that much, god forbid imagine what could have happened if you'd consumed that much sample powder ...

Even relating to mephedrone on another person that much could have messed them up ! Seriously mate do ya research before u buy hardly any vendors can be trusted nowadays if you continue to consume. Personally id lay off them before u.seriously hurt yourself or worse, this is what the media want this type of publicity ...

Seejay

I understand where your coming from, but as hard as it might be for you to believe I usually am very sensible with drugs. I'm not a risk-taker so I thoroughly research before I decide to try anything new. -

That being said, I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in online suppliers until a package arrives at my door containing whatever chemical I ordered and nothing else. I've been scammed before on mephedrone, which was cut with what looked like dried milk powder which when sniffed produced the same effects as previous mephedrone experiences but much weaker, and required much more to achieve the same effect as the legit orders I bought in the past.

I took it with my friend and after 3 hours we BOTH felt nothing substantial.
Only felt very mild effects, barely noticable, more like butterflies and placebo than what it should feel like. I thought I'd been ripped off again, but we couldn't decide whether we felt something or whether it was placebo and ended up doing our 2nd dose for confirmation, if we felt something, it was cut, if we felt nothing, we got scammed even worse.

And yes I did notice the delay that people reported, which is why I waited for THREE hours instead of 1-2 as reported in the earlier threads.

Edit:- Infact, the whole reason I posted my experience was so that no-one makes the same mistake I did. I might have done something retarded, but atleast I have a lot of experience with drugs and kept relatively calm throughout, providing regular detailed updates. If someone who was new to this kinda thing had made the same mistake they might have been a lot worse off. If they lived, they'd probably be the next daily-mail headline.

 

[seejay33]

Weve spoke elsewhere haven't we ?

Deffo sounds like you've had the shit stuff doin the rounds with so many vendors, please research thoroughly and I'm sure you'll find the proper stuff...

Seejay

I understand where your coming from, but as hard as it might be for you to believe I usually am very sensible with drugs. I'm not a risk-taker so I thoroughly research before I decide to try anything new. -

That being said, I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in online suppliers until a package arrives at my door containing whatever chemical I ordered and nothing else. I've been scammed before on mephedrone, which was cut with what looked like dried milk powder which when sniffed produced the same effects as previous mephedrone experiences but much weaker, and required much more to achieve the same effect as the legit orders I bought in the past.

I took it with my friend and after 3 hours we BOTH felt nothing substantial.
Only felt very mild effects, barely noticable, more like butterflies and placebo than what it should feel like. I thought I'd been ripped off again, but we couldn't decide whether we felt something or whether it was placebo and ended up doing our 2nd dose for confirmation, if we felt something, it was cut, if we felt nothing, we got scammed even worse.

And yes I did notice the delay that people reported, which is why I waited for THREE hours instead of 1-2 as reported in the earlier threads.

 

[RClabRat]

Well I wont be doing anything besides smoking weed for atleast a month. I've never had serotonin syndrome before, never even been close, can't have done my brain or heart any good.

If I feel perfectly healthy in a month's time I might try it again from a 100% confirmed no bullshit certified vendor, but I'm never taking more than recommended dose on new RCs, the fact is me and my friend were too cocky. We were too careless because we've never had any bad experiences on other RCs we were more worried about being scammed than overdosing... Which wont be happening again.

Should have reminded ourselves that just because the stimulant class drugs we've taken in the past have always taken affect within 2 hours means nothing. And is completely irrelevant for RCs.

Edit:- We might have, but you probably just read my report on the other forum I posted on. I hope people learn a lesson from my experience. If just one of the people who read my posts doesn't die from overdose cause they didn't redose too early it'll be worth having typed everything I have done. - Although I wish I had a friend with as much drug knowledge as Frogster, I'd definitely feel a lot better doing RCs knowing my blood pressure could be controlled. I seriously worry about the long term effects of Vasoconstriction on my heart.

 

[seejay33]

Take care of yourself and I'm sure you'll be fine

Seejay

 

[RClabRat]

I'm trying to sleep, but I'm being kept up by worry.

I still can't shake this feel of tightness around my chest, it isn't my heart though, because when I lay on my stomach it it feels tight around my abdominal area, like there's something sold moving round and crushing me from the inside, but not as painful as it sounds. Anyone have any idea what might be the cause? I forced myself to eat during the experience because I figured leaving my stomach empty for 3 days wouldn't be very smart...

Edit:- It isn't really painful, just highly irritating.

 

[MrDoIt]

I'm trying to sleep, but I'm being kept up by worry.

I still can't shake this feel of tightness around my chest, it isn't my heart though, because when I lay on my stomach it it feels tight around my abdominal area, like there's something sold moving round and crushing me from the inside, but not as painful as it sounds. Anyone have any idea what might be the cause? I forced myself to eat during the experience because I figured leaving my stomach empty for 3 days wouldn't be very smart...

Edit:- It isn't really painful, just highly irritating.

Get some headphones on with some chilled music, or read a book. Anything to ease your thoughts. Oh, and sounds like you have trapped a nerve or something....

Get well.

 

[Biscuit]

and in 6-apb terms I know 650mg is a large dose, but looking back at the recent popular RCs probably clouded my judgement, 650mg of mephedrone was nothing, I never expected the same amount of this stuff to almost kill me.

I am sorry you had a bad experience but this is the sort of comment that drives me to despair. I mean seriously, you need to understand that not all drugs have the same dosage. The amount of LSD one needs for a strong trip is 1000th (1/1000) that you need for a decent MDMA roll.

It is behaviour like this that is ruining it for everyone, why mephedrone got banned and now why attention is firmly on this scene from every direction.

There is no way (imo) you had 6-APB, end of story. At least do a test result and come back if the powder tests purple and tell us.

6-APB is going to end up getting banned because of all these horror stories from idiots NOT EVEN TAKING 6-APB. I mean how absurd is that. Just like the infamous story out of the UK about the two young men who died from mephedrone, which fast tracked the UK's ban, and low and behold when the truth came out, mephedrone had nothing to do with it.

 

[annaminx]

for my two cents, the so called "official" pellets are nice, but i mistakenly and stupidly brought "powder" which was fake, i ended up having a suspected heart attack, but it looks to be a stroke and am waiting on tests to see what damage is done. be WARNED!! the FAKE stuff is deadly...

 

[chronic bubonic]

FFS annaminx and labrat and in fact anyone else planning on abusing some random chemical.... do some research ( and i don't mean take 5x recommended dose) about your product and try and be a bit more careful !!

If, like me, ur relatively new to the research chemical scene then may I respectfully suggest you read the Erowid FAQs on research chemicals...

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/research_chems_faq.shtml

 

[scab]

for my two cents, the so called "official" pellets are nice, but i mistakenly and stupidly brought "powder" which was fake, i ended up having a suspected heart attack, but it looks to be a stroke and am waiting on tests to see what damage is done. be WARNED!! the FAKE stuff is deadly...

You suspect you had a stroke last night, yet have selflessly dropped in to let us know before seeking proper medical attention?

That's very noble of you... 8)

 

[seejay33]

Not gonna flame u mate the Fucking shit vendors are more.to. blame but for your own safety please please look around for info on chemicals/ vendors cos u went close, maybe not so lucky next time ! Hope your ok all the same

Seejay

for my two cents, the so called "official" pellets are nice, but i mistakenly and stupidly brought "powder" which was fake, i ended up having a suspected heart attack, but it looks to be a stroke and am waiting on tests to see what damage is done. be WARNED!! the FAKE stuff is deadly...

 

[Muddy Benson]

Thanx Seejay for the previous response. I too miss the good ol' Amphet days. I am wondering what the Psycadelic effects of this Rc is? I never once had any psycadelia off of an E, just empathy and euphoria, which would be my ideal outcome this evening, when i take my first trip into a 6-Apb haze.

I recieved 8 little capsules filled between 1/2 and 1/3 with a white, heavy fine powder, claiming to be 'Benzo Fury' this morning and am eager to try one. I recently experimented with 5-Meo-Dalt and although that's very, very good i was not ready for the weakness, visuals and lack of physical stimulation it gave me. I was hoping someone can give me a little more info on the possible physical effects?

Much appreciated BL!

 

[scab]

Thanx Seejay for the previous response. I too miss the good ol' Amphet days. I am wondering what the Psycadelic effects of this Rc is? I never once had any psycadelia off of an E, just empathy and euphoria, which would be my ideal outcome this evening, when i take my first trip into a 6-Apb haze.

I recieved 8 little capsules filled between 1/2 and 1/3 with a white, heavy fine powder, claiming to be 'Benzo Fury' this morning and am eager to try one. I recently experimented with 5-Meo-Dalt and although that's very, very good i was not ready for the weakness, visuals and lack of physical stimulation it gave me. I was hoping someone can give me a little more info on the possible physical effects?

Much appreciated BL!

Just a heads up, for your own safety: there have been no reported sightings of 6-APB in capsule form being sold in the wild. Each and every cap sold has proved to be bunk so far, and in many cases dangerous. With that in mind, I'd research your source extensively before you even consider taking one.

As for genuine 6-APB, visuals are as commonly reported as they are not. Whether this depends on the person or the dosage is uncertain for now. Either way, we're not talking full visual hallucinations, but more vibrant colours and trails.

Hope this helps.