The 6-APB thread

[scouse.rob]

explain to me this if u will... 6-apb arrives in 150mg pellets yet the advised dosage is 75mg(1st timers half this dose atleast.)what is the point of the gel pellet? could easily be swallowed whole then god help you. ok here we go
male
age 31
6"2
13 1/2 stone
experienced illegal drug and legal rc user
drinking alcohol during research period
9pm took 0.10mg as a allergy test
9.30pm no reaction good or bad
9.45pm bombed 30mg(wrapped in tissue paper) followed by 30mg snorted
sweet after taste to the drip,not nice at all on the nostrel,painful nearly.off white fluffy/sticky powder in appearance
9.55pm just chilling having a beer,advice on website stated slow releasing(1-2hours) therefore the use of gel capsules.
10.10pm slow release? pure nonsense.body feels warm..then cold,rushes from body to head,enjoyable
10.40 playing poker listening 2 music..hands feel like they dont belong 2 me,sense of touch starting to fade..head hazy fazy,trippy like early stages of acid..general sensation of my mind not being connected to my body
11pm effects mutiplied,no redose i'm just riding the storm,vision becomes interesting..closed eye hallucinations,open eye colour distortion followed by tracers when smoking.SMOKING(nicotine)...basically inhaled in one draw or so it seemed,fastest ciggy smoked by myself ever similar to the sensation of smoking while coming up on E x20.
2.am effects have varied between complete tripping to complete spaced out,no redosing as i'm actually scared to,wanting the effects 2 fade so i go 2 bed.
6.am still awake no chance of sleep yet breathing slows then accelerates randomly,my body has tried hard 2 sweat this chemical out of its system 2 no avail.having thoughts that maybe i overdosed,feverish body effects,
9.am no sleep damn it,one minute i think ive come down the next a hazy trip comes over me and away we go again.watch tv=annoys me. drink water=makes me feel sick.go outside 2 smoke=head feels light as does my body,evidently still under the effects of this rc,mind very clear yet body very lagargic/then again mind jumps from clear to trippy like.
no time stated as i have yet 2 find sleep,this rc advertised as a stimulant(info ref wiki)yet very much phsycoactive/hallucigenic...unless the the stim properties are that great/strong that they bypass the typical senses causing the out of body experience...great care should be taken when sampling this rc...i would recommend a dose of 15mg bombed in tissue followed bY 15mg snorted after maybe 1 hour if needed.ignore advice from vendor,this is not a slow releasing agent effects noticable within 15/30 minutes.DO NOT SWALLOW CAPSULE WHOLE..do not take 75mg..BE WARNED.

 

[scouse.rob]

Anyone have any ideas if 6-apb would give a positive urine test for amphetamines or mdma?

6-(2-aminopropyl)benzofuran or 1-benzofuran-6-ylpropan-2-amine (6-APB) is a stimulant and entactogen drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine classes. It is an analogue of MDA where the 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl ring system has been replaced with a benzofuran ring. 6-APB is also the unsaturated benzofuran derivative of 6-APDB. strong probability that urine test will flag something abnormal

 

[zamzams]

explain to me this if u will... 6-apb arrives in 150mg pellets yet the advised dosage is 75mg(1st timers half this dose atleast.)what is the point of the gel pellet? could easily be swallowed whole then god help you. ok here we go
male
age 31
6"2
13 1/2 stone
experienced illegal drug and legal rc user
drinking alcohol during research period
9pm took 0.10mg as a allergy test
9.30pm no reaction good or bad
9.45pm bombed 30mg(wrapped in tissue paper) followed by 30mg snorted
sweet after taste to the drip,not nice at all on the nostrel,painful nearly.off white fluffy/sticky powder in appearance
9.55pm just chilling having a beer,advice on website stated slow releasing(1-2hours) therefore the use of gel capsules.
10.10pm slow release? pure nonsense.body feels warm..then cold,rushes from body to head,enjoyable
10.40 playing poker listening 2 music..hands feel like they dont belong 2 me,sense of touch starting to fade..head hazy fazy,trippy like early stages of acid..general sensation of my mind not being connected to my body
11pm effects mutiplied,no redose i'm just riding the storm,vision becomes interesting..closed eye hallucinations,open eye colour distortion followed by tracers when smoking.SMOKING(nicotine)...basically inhaled in one draw or so it seemed,fastest ciggy smoked by myself ever similar to the sensation of smoking while coming up on E x20.
2.am effects have varied between complete tripping to complete spaced out,no redosing as i'm actually scared to,wanting the effects 2 fade so i go 2 bed.
6.am still awake no chance of sleep yet breathing slows then accelerates randomly,my body has tried hard 2 sweat this chemical out of its system 2 no avail.having thoughts that maybe i overdosed,feverish body effects,
9.am no sleep damn it,one minute i think ive come down the next a hazy trip comes over me and away we go again.watch tv=annoys me. drink water=makes me feel sick.go outside 2 smoke=head feels light as does my body,evidently still under the effects of this rc,mind very clear yet body very lagargic/then again mind jumps from clear to trippy like.
no time stated as i have yet 2 find sleep,this rc advertised as a stimulant(info ref wiki)yet very much phsycoactive/hallucigenic...unless the the stim properties are that great/strong that they bypass the typical senses causing the out of body experience...great care should be taken when sampling this rc...i would recommend a dose of 15mg bombed in tissue followed bY 15mg snorted after maybe 1 hour if needed.ignore advice from vendor,this is not a slow releasing agent effects noticable within 15/30 minutes.DO NOT SWALLOW CAPSULE WHOLE..do not take 75mg..BE WARNED.

6-APB doesn't taste sweet. it isn't a strong stimulant at all. it's a pure empathogen. Edit on rereading some effects ring true of the pellets ( a bit up and down compared to 6-apdb)

what peripheral effects did it give? any vasoconstriction? any chestpains? how long was the peak effect? also did you feel more sick on the comedown than the comeup?

6-(2-aminopropyl)benzofuran or 1-benzofuran-6-ylpropan-2-amine (6-APB) is a stimulant and entactogen drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine classes. It is an analogue of MDA where the 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl ring system has been replaced with a benzofuran ring. 6-APB is also the unsaturated benzofuran derivative of 6-APDB. strong probability that urine test will flag something abnormal

agree with this , but it should be out of your system within 2 days.

 

[walkthedinosaur]

My Experience

Right, I have been holding off doing this for a week since I had a night to myself and had the opportunity to try 2 pellets from an obvious source.

I have to say that I had read a great deal about the slow come-up etc so about 8pm I made a strong cup of coffee and crushed 1 pellet into this. Thinking I had plenty of time I then went out to the local Indian takeaway to get in supplies for the next day.

When I got there they had lost my order so I had to wait for about 25 mins, they gave me a free pint while I was waiting. About two thirds of the way through the pint I started to to think they had better hurry up as I I had to drive 5 mins home. By he time I got in the car I was slightly worried, I am very sensitive to stimulants and could already tell that the edges of my vision was blurring.

I got home in one piece but within approx another 20 mins I was royally fucked up, I have taken a a lot of illegal drugs in my time but this was really strong. Having said that I felt very much in control. It was for that reason that I decided I would do the other one. About an hour after that the closest I can describe the feeling to is a strong early 90s MDA pill. Sensual, euphoric, trippy. It lasted as well. I know I paid £20 for that but I have also paid £40 for a gram of shit coke in my time which didn't even come close to this feeling. My only regret was that I had to experience it on my own.

My honest opinion is that these pellets are underdosed to the tune of approx 60mg per pellet, 2 really gets the job done. Expensive yes, would i like a couple to go out dancing all night, YES/

I know I have few posts but my time is generally spent in the real rather than the virtual world. Just thought it was my duty to pass on the experience.

In summary:

Expensive
Very Nice
Will make you useless for at least 2 days
If you have a weekend to do this with a couple of like-minded friends, well I would

Not a shill, not a vendor, none of that bollocks, just a bit of a drug fiend who can't quite believe this was sent to me through the post!

Hope you can take this post in the spirit it was meant.

 

[Vurtual]

....Hope you can take this post in the spirit it was meant.

I basically agree with your summary (spirit accepted) - i think this stuff is nice (regardless of what the dose in the pellets is); i haven't yet taken pelletised '6-apb' and not had a nice hit to be honest (YMMV). I agree that upping the initial dose (1 to a 1.5 for me) pushes it into an even nicer place (a bit more trippy and overwhelming); although, in the interests of moderation, i only took one tonight and it's still just dandy.
As i suspected, i have a good time on these pellets in party situation (YMMV - the trippines of the pellets, while very mild for me, may be too much for some in a party).

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HR: Just because one person doesn't get a hit unless he takes 2, it doesn't mean people should be encouraged to take more than one their first go. Based on my experience, i think people should be encouraged to take no more than 1 at a time for their first go on these - or even a half if you never done 'proper' (i.e. non-pip) pills. If it doesn't do the business for them, no biggie, but i'd advise to wait at least 2 hours before deciding to redose.

Also be aware that in my experience this substance does have some consequence for the body; bit of a headache near the end (not every time for me), heavy teeth grinding, tired and lethargic and sweaty a day or two after the last dose. I still feel nice if tired for a couple of days after a go, but by midweek i have felt a definite mood dip (slightly irritable and depressed feeling - this might have just been me i suppose). However, this was only really noticeable to me when i've redosed more than once in a night. I feel fine again by thursday, but i personally feel like i want to leave two weeks or more between goes - it still works fine the next week, but i suspect it will loose it's magic pretty sharpish with no weeks off, same as anything. At least two weeks, preferrably four off is probably the best way to use anything like this i suppose (in an ideal world)

 

[tragiclemming]

I'll add my $0.02.
I've been sat on a bunch of pellets for a while now. Captain sensible wanted to see how the guinea pigs got on before trying for himself.
So, I took 1 pellet out with me (just in case I had the urge). Was in the pub drinking for a while, quite pissed, but then took an hours break before heading to the club. 1:00am down the hatch. Within 45 I was battered Had a bit of a grumbling stomach, but didn't feel sick. Lovely warm glow, but sweating profusely. Nice floaty feeling, with very mild visual distortions. I felt no urge to re-dose and deliberately set my limit to 1 for the 1st experience. I had done an allergy test 2 weeks prior with no noticeable reaction.
Got home by 7:00. Difficult to sleep and a strong urge to take a dump. Slightly radioactive shits, but not too bad. By about 9:00 I fell asleep and woke at 3pm. Feeling quite chipper and no noticeable hangover.
Overall - not too shabby.

 

[change-jug]

Slightly radioactive shits, but not too bad.

I forgot to mention,my shits were amazingly stank the day after. I dueced about 3 times the next day,each time pissing out my ass and offending anyone near by. I`m not sure if my body got used to it but I didn`t have those same ass end side effects the other 3 times I dosed any 6-apb pellets(other than some really smelly farts).

 

[kace]

Hey I finally got round to testing 2 of my order today. Fucking awesome, I didn't think they would effect me that much as I take pills quite often but fuuuuckinh hell this stuff is good!
i feel so so much love for everyone and dancing was so much fun tonight.
downsides- nausea (did vom a bit), gurning aching the mouth, headache and fuzzy vision. fucking good though. i'm home now and alone i want to be surrounded with people so badly.


sory if this is completely unrelated to what was talking before about. just wanted to say this

 

[kingme]

hey all.

just wanted to share my experience with some 6apb powder i got. substance is a bit off white, doesnt taste too bad. dose taken was around 60mg, oral, drank on top of a pizza.

overall the experience was not bad, but not what i had expected. the comeup was smooth, music sounded nice, dancing felt great, comunication with others was easy and natural, but no euphoria per se, mood was elevated, but not spectaculary so. Actually the most definite aspect of the experience was stimulation. I felt wide awake the entire time, and the awakeness lasted for a looong time.
sleep was very difficult, not relaxing at all. stimulation lasted for almost 24h after ingestion, accelerated bowel movement (but nothing really bad), and increased sensitivity of own heart beat (heart rate was normal, i just felt it more than usual). No anorexia.

Would i repeat the experience? not at 60mg. Perhaps 30mg if i plan to go out on a friday night party after a long exhausting week to get extra energy. It might combine well with some mellower rcs out there.

 

[Muddy Benson]

Can anybody help me out there?

I'm wondering whether this RC has any of the physical euphoria that meph had, or speed has or even E's? i recently bought 5-MeO-Dalt and it was nothing like i expected! very good, but too much of a mind come up and nearly no body rushes at all. I should've gathered enough from the forum being in the Psycadelic area that that is what it was, as is this one, but i've read many reports differing on the psycadelia of this chem 6-Apb. The reports of this being a stim is very attractive to me tho it seems the general 'happy' mood wears out before the jitters and bruxing does.

Can anyone compare this chemical to Amphetamine for me please? I'm a little inexperienced with psyche's and although i would try this, i am ideally looking for a body/sensual high. Will i get any joy from this chem in those departments?

Big thanks!!

 

[MrDoIt]

Oh dear...What a week....7-day bender but just about back to "normal" now !!

So its looking like most people are switching to the 6-APB powder now - any more positive reports on this from anyone ? Once again have some "random white powder" on order purpurting to be "6-APB" so will report back in due course.

Hope everyone is well...

 

[lowbie]

Just received a couple of 115mg bags of supposed 6-APB powder and to my surprise the marquis turned the exact same color as the pellets almost instantly.

The powder is off white/tan but it has a very feint mephedrone smell which worries me a bit.

Can someone that has tested the first batch of samples from the o5 shed some light into this?

 

[foolsgold]

cant understand why people are paying for pellets when you can get a gram for not much more and it worked better than the pellets did, which made me think id been skanked cause they did kick in for nearly 5hours later and only then cause id got pissed off and took some baby wood rose

 

[Osky_P]

Hey foolsgold, how much powder did you do and roa pls mate? Just received a sample myself. Its the legit stuff mate without goin down v Territory! But thinkin about sampling a bit this evening. Was thinking a really low dose on account of work tomorrow. Done O5 pellets a few times and mixed feelings about them. Nice at first but last too long with very grotty comedown.

 

[seejay33]

Hi mate,

Apb is a lot more like e than amphet...

It's been yrs since I got good quality amphet, used to be my favourite

Seejay

Can anybody help me out there?

I'm wondering whether this RC has any of the physical euphoria that meph had, or speed has or even E's? i recently bought 5-MeO-Dalt and it was nothing like i expected! very good, but too much of a mind come up and nearly no body rushes at all. I should've gathered enough from the forum being in the Psycadelic area that that is what it was, as is this one, but i've read many reports differing on the psycadelia of this chem 6-Apb. The reports of this being a stim is very attractive to me tho it seems the general 'happy' mood wears out before the jitters and bruxing does.

Can anyone compare this chemical to Amphetamine for me please? I'm a little inexperienced with psyche's and although i would try this, i am ideally looking for a body/sensual high. Will i get any joy from this chem in those departments?

Big thanks!!

 

[RClabRat]

I thought after I slept I'd be back to normal, but now approaching 80 hours after my first dose (650mg total redoses around 4 hours apart) my chest feels like It is supporting a huge weight, the best word I can use to describs it is tight.

Also still feeling the effects on my mind every so often, only slept 6 hrs overall.

Reading the reports from everyone else I think delysidan had exactly the same stuff as I did, everything in his report I experienced myself.

My two biggest mistakes were:- 1. assuming that this drug would behave similar to street drugs like speed/MDMA/MDA where you feel the effects within an hour and reach a peak at around 4 hrs then come down for 4 more. and
2. that the sample I had was cut after not feeling any effects after 2 hours, and that I needed to take more to experience the same as other users who posted glowing reports on the stuff.

That assumption made me think it would be fine to take 650mg in one night.

After reading other reports, some describing what I felt at much lower doses I have no idea why I'm still alive right now.

I took 10 times the recommended first time dose because online vendors are so unreliable now that I completely overlooked the obvious and instantly convinced myself that the vendor couldn't possible be legit.

I would not recommend this filthy misleading drug to ANYONE. The effect I got at the start of the night was incredibly intense, and deceptively nice, and after I felt like I was coming down (I know now that I definitely was NOT coming down when I thought I was) So I took my last dose leaving me at 650mg total.

I don't know what you mean when you describe this chem's comedown.

I didn't have a comedown, comedown implies that you are going from high energy to low energy. I just got more and more awake as time went on, and more and more worried that my experience was never going to end and I had just permenantly fucked my brain up forever.

What I think you're talking about is the period of time where the intense feeling from the come up finally loses the ability to distract you from the horrible effects lingering in wait. This has lasted 80 hours and counting for me now, at this moment I feel much better than I did, but still 15% abnormal.

Why anyone likes this stuff I will never know, and I don't know how the fuck I survived, I know I'm going to get people defending this shit saying 'You took too much it's your own fault' so I'll reply in advance.

despite how stupid and dangerous the dose I took was, I'm normally extremely careful, I research thoroughly before I buy anything and always check reports so I know what to expect and dose e.t.c

If I see 5 people all saying they did 100mg and 1-2 hours after felt good effects, then I assume that 100mg of the legit stuff will affect me after over 2 hours since ingestion. If it's approaching 3 hours and I only feel the slightest of effects then I have to assume that one of the factors, either the trip reports, dosage or Vendor is incorrect.

Since there's many different trip reports, and the dosage is always quoted as the same, I have to assume the vendor has cut the product or it's just something else altogether.

After checking the reports to see if I had any of the same feelings I decided that 6-apb was present and the dealer had just cut it down with something inert so he can undercut the other vendors without losing profit.

about an hour or so after the 2nd dose, which was 250mg, I began to feel more like the good reports described, so at this point I'm 100% convinced it's no more than 25% pure. Which based on all the earlier reports and without prior knowledge of the extremely long duration and incredibly long delay doesn't seem to be a bad assumption.

which led me to my final and biggest redose, after mistakenly thought I had peaked (once again I based this completely on the misleading early reports claiming that the substance lasts 7-10 hours) being unable to sleep and to avoid falling asleep during the day I did my last dose of 300mg.

If you still think that I'm an idiot for that amount in one night then you're right, I am an idiot, but not because of my reasoning, I'm an idiot for relying on the early reports of other users to decide whether my vendor had ripped me off and assuming that the samples everyone loved so much were actually 6-apb.


I experienced every symptom listed under the overdose section at listed at http://bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8683539&postcount=409

Infact, it's scary how perfectly that fits what happened to me. And that info is based off of MDA which as you all know 6-apb is an analogue with the only difference being benzofuran ring instead of the 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl ring system.

I think we've been had, I'm going to call it now officially and propose the theory that the samples given out were not real 6-apb but another more desirable substance sent out in advance in order to secure glowing trip reports and build hype and cause confusion amongst users for long enough to sell their stock. And now the powder which some of us are recieving is the real 6-apb, completely horrible and highly dangerous and far more potent than originally thought.

I emailed the vendor and asked them to tell me honestly exactly what chemical/s they sent me because my life may be in danger. At this point if the vendor doesn't reply to your query or lies then IF they have sold you an adulterated substance and refuse to tell you what it was even when they're being told your life may be in danger then no matter what disclaimers they have on their website if you die, they will be held accountable for the outcome.

I don't think any vendor would lie at that point as they're risking going to jail for a long time just because they don't want to admit they cut their product.

The vendor replied telling me that the product was not tampered with, and to be honest I've now seen a few reports that sound like the same stuff I got, and I know we didn't use the same vendor. So unless every vendor is adding the same amount of the same adulterant to each of their supplies personally the only conclusion is that the powder avaliable now is unadulterated, and that 6-apb is just a terrible RC that was completely different to substance in the samples.

Ok, I think I covered everything I needed to say, I apologise for the length but I wanted to give my full input on this subject and encourage anyone who still has any amount of the sample left and have it tested to see if it is 6-apb so there is no chance of anyone ever doing the amount I did no one deserves to feel the way I felt when the rushing feeling went away. I had extreme paranoia and was fighting stimulant psychosis and developed severe serotonin syndrome for around 48 hours after the initial buzz faded with no sleep and a very strong fear that I may never feel normal again. - This RC is not worth the risk.

 

[ashtray girl]

Most people who dose at sensible amounts seem to enjoy it, so I wouldn't say it isn't worth the risk.

Dose stupidly high and you will feel bad, what more can you expect? Saying that, I'll not be touching it until the situation has cleared up and somewhere reliable starts selling it.

 

[RClabRat]

the only good reports have been about the sample batch (which I bet isn't even 6-apb) and the pellets.

I've been reading every post about 6-apb for 3 days now. If you actually go back, you'll see recent reports by people who dosed the recommended amount with the powder and still felt horrible and unable to sleep for an absurdly long time.

I haven't seen any reports of the powder (not the samples) that didn't mention how bad the 'comedown' was.

Edit:- Also incase it was unclear, the overdose sympoms of MDA were Identical to the symptoms I experienced when I ingested the substance I recieved which the vendor claims is pure and unadulterated. given the similar chemical structure does it really seem so impossible that the stuff I got and the stuff that's keeping everyone awake is real legit 6-apb and the samples weren't?

 

[ashtray girl]

No, it doesn't seem impossible. But of course you suffered an OD, you took 650mg!

I've seen the reports of people who have had a bad time on the powder and the pellets, but I've also seen reports of people having a good time on both. The samples were almost uniform good experience.

Like I say, I'll sit it out until I know that what I am receiving is 6-APB, sold by a reliable vendor (does such a thing exist!?) for a decent price.

 

[etage]

the only good reports have been about the sample batch (which I bet isn't even 6-apb) and the pellets.

I've been reading every post about 6-apb for 3 days now. If you actually go back, you'll see recent reports by people who dosed the recommended amount with the powder and still felt horrible and unable to sleep for an absurdly long time.

I haven't seen any reports of the powder (not the samples) that didn't mention how bad the 'comedown' was.

Edit:- Also incase it was unclear, the overdose sympoms of MDA were Identical to the symptoms I experienced when I ingested the substance I recieved which the vendor claims is pure and unadulterated. given the similar chemical structure does it really seem so impossible that the stuff I got and the stuff that's keeping everyone awake is real legit 6-apb and the samples weren't?

That doesn't seem impossible, but it's as much speculation as anything else. The powdered 6-APB that's sold mostly seems to originate from one dodgy chinese vendor, so I wouldn't take for granted this stuff even contains traces of 6-APB.

What your vendor told you doesn't really matter, because most of these guys seem to be fairly clueless about what they sell and chemistry in general.