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The 6-APB thread

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could be anything mate a lot of things turn red - even aspirin!

MARQUIS REAGENT Aspirin powder 13 Deep red 5R 3/10
MARQUIS REAGENT Benzphetamine HCl* CHCl3 41 Deep reddish brown 7.5R 2/6
MARQUIS REAGENT Chlorpromazine HCl CHCl3 256 Deep purplish red 2.5RP 3/8
MARQUIS REAGENT Codeine* CHCl3 225 Very dark purple 7.5P 2/4
MARQUIS REAGENT d-Amphetamine HCl* CHCl3 35 to Strong reddish orange 10R 6/12 to 44 Dark reddish brown 7.5R 2/4
MARQUIS REAGENT d-Methamphetamine HCl* CHCl3 36 to Deep reddish orange 10R 4/12 to 44 Dark reddish brown 7.5R 2/4
MARQUIS REAGENT Diacetylmorphine HCl* CHCl3 256 Deep purplish red 7.5RP 3/10
MARQUIS REAGENT Dimethoxy-meth HCl CHCl3 107 Moderate olive 7.5Y 5/8
MARQUIS REAGENT Doxepin HCl CHCl3 21 Blackish red 7.5R 2/2
MARQUIS REAGENT Dristan powder 20 Dark grayish red 5R 3/2
MARQUIS REAGENT Exedrine powder 16 Dark red 5R 3/8
MARQUIS REAGENT LSD CHCl3 114 Olive black 10Y 2/2
MARQUIS REAGENT Mace5 crystals 87 Moderate yellow 7Y 7/8
MARQUIS REAGENT MDA HCl* CHCl3 267 Black Black
MARQUIS REAGENT Meperidine HCl CHCl3 56 Deep brown 5YR 3/6
MARQUIS REAGENT Mescaline HCl* CHCl3 50 Strong orange 5YR 6/12
MARQUIS REAGENT Methadone HCl CHCl3 28 Light yellowish pink 2.5YR 8/4
MARQUIS REAGENT Methylphenidate HCl CHCl3 71 Moderate orange yellow 10YR 8/8
MARQUIS REAGENT Morphine monohydrate* CHCl3 239 Very deep reddish purple 10P 3/6
MARQUIS REAGENT Opium* Powder 47 Dark grayish reddish
Brown
10R 3/2
MARQUIS REAGENT Oxycodone HCl* CHCl3 214 Pale violet 2.5P 6/4
MARQUIS REAGENT Propoxyphene HCl CHCl3 230 Blackish purple 2.5RP 2/2
MARQUIS REAGENT Sugar crystals 59 Dark brown 5YR 2/4

Thanks for that. I can upload a photo, but it might just add extra confusion to the thread
 
OK, T+1.15 now. Think I am almost completely up, although it does keep intensifying. A wonderfully strong effect from 1 pellet. Jaw clenching only problem so far. Real bliss and euphoria.

No, definitely still intensifying,,,

T+1.45mins. Still peaking. Absolutely glorious. Just did another half...

• A few observations afte r the first time I tried Benzo Fury pellets and comparisons with what others report. I ate 2 hours in advanced, crushed 1.2 pellet, swallowed and started coming up after 1h5m and it was really hitting at 1h20m.

• That's surprising as for me I E takes minimum 55minuts and up to 1h 15m so the Benzos just take slightly longer. Lately I’ve taken Mephedrone about every 5thday so it’s not that my serotonin level is excellent. Is there that much difference between crushed and uncrushed pellets?

• I thinks sex would be easier on this than on MDMA or Mephedrone as it is easier to stay focused for long than on MDMA and erection gets/stays harder than on Mephedrone.

• Some people have reported little effect from Magnesium against bruxism. Some people have also had bad experiences with intake of stuff (/more 6-apb) the first couple hours. I took Magnesium before, and probably 3 and 5 hours in and it worked very well against bruxism. Could it be that the stomach just isn’t ready the first hours.

• It really lasted 7 hours from dropping, sleeping was possible after 9 hours.

• If this drug avoids any big incidents and isn’t toxic, it is hard for swim to understand why it shouldn’t stay legal. It isn’t moreish at all, lasts so long that most people could seldom take it and it would make it very hard to compete with from the regular drugtrade as you only need one pellet/100mg per night.

It really is fantastic.
 
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Comparisons

• A few observations afte r the first time I tried Benzo Fury pellets and comparisons with what others report. I ate 2 hours in advanced, crushed 1.2 pellet, swallowed and started coming up after 1h5m and it was really hitting at 1h20m.

• That's surprising as for me I E takes minimum 55minuts and up to 1h 15m so the Benzos just take slightly longer. Lately I’ve taken Mephedrone about every 5thday so it’s not that my serotonin level is excellent. Is there that much difference between crushed and uncrushed pellets?

• I thinks sex would be easier on this than on MDMA or Mephedrone as it is easier to stay focused for long than on MDMA and erection gets/stays harder than on Mephedrone.

• Some people have reported little effect from Magnesium against bruxism. Some people have also had bad experiences with intake of stuff (/more 6-apb) the first couple hours. I took Magnesium before, and probably 3 and 5 hours in and it worked very well against bruxism. Could it be that the stomach just isn’t ready the first hours.

• It really lasted 7 hours from dropping, sleeping was possible after 9 hours.

• If this drug avoids any big incidents and isn’t toxic, it is hard for swim to understand why it shouldn’t stay legal. It isn’t moreish at all, lasts so long that most people could seldom take it and it would make it very hard to compete with from the regular drugtrade as you only need one pellet/100mg per night.
 


• If this drug avoids any big incidents and isn’t toxic, it is hard for swim to understand why it shouldn’t stay legal. It isn’t moreish at all, lasts so long that most people could seldom take it and it would make it very hard to compete with from the regular drugtrade as you only need one pellet/100mg per night.

bound to be made ilegal because it is fun and mind opening, and would make lurid headlines in the daily mail when some idiot mixes it gets alcohol poisoning and some 6-apb is found on him

Just got my free sample capsule which i will be comparing with the last capsule i took 2 weeks ago (which was generally positive experience apart from nausea and bruxism). will test with marquis and drop on friday.

Thanks for advice about minimising side effects.
 
The smell in Tcp is from the phenol in it apparently. Don't know what the link would be between this and 6-apb though?

it seems phenols of some sort might be used in the synthesis. the stronger the smell the more phenols left. suggests the pellets have quite a bit of it left over from production, while the powder I got has less synth contaminants.
 
bound to be made ilegal because it is fun and mind opening, and would make lurid headlines in the daily mail when some idiot mixes it gets alcohol poisoning and some 6-apb is found on him

Just got my free sample capsule which i will be comparing with the last capsule i took 2 weeks ago (which was generally positive experience apart from nausea and bruxism). will test with marquis and drop on friday.

Thanks for advice about minimising side effects.

Capsule?
 
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Originally Posted by invert

I revise my tentatively positive thoughts about 6-APB from my first dose of it, and am now rather less tentatively thinking that the side-effects seriously outweigh the fleeting and unreliable positive effects.

OK, I now definitely agree with you, invert.

My glowing report on 100mg of 6-apb was influenced by the 250mg of MDAI that I took at the same time. After taking 250mg of MDAI on its own, I find that most of the positive effects I reported were down to the MDAI, not the 6-apb. 6-apb was responsible for the negative effects. Or perhaps I should say, my irresponsible behaviour with 6-apb resulted in negative effects. Please don't tell me off, I know I've been stupid, I'm posting here for the purposes of HR. :(

Specifically, prior to my 6-apb/MDAI combo, I took 200mg (two pellets) of 6-apb, on its own, crushed, swallowed, on an empty stomach. Fuck. 8o Never again. Very lucky to get away with it. (I'd conducted an allergy test, and 50mg earlier, with no effects whatsoever.) Got me thinking.

6-apb has been described by some experienced drug users as pleasant, euphoric, as "mdma with visuals". If this is how you experience the drug, good for you, no, I really mean it. You are the lucky ones. If this is you, ignore this post and enjoy!

If, however, like me you suffered a bad reaction, or you are uncertain as to whether to give this one a try, read on.

Whatever the subjective effects, 6-apb is a structural analogue of MDA, not MDMA. Doesn't necessarily mean it will act in the same way (functional analogue) but it sure felt that way to me in what I am now convinced was an overdose. Run your eye over all the recent posts on this thread - especially the negative ones - and then consider the following:

Take a look at the Bluelight information on MDA. (Thank you ceryc, it's excellent.)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=80283

Anything stand out?

"What is the experience like?
The effects of MDA are very similar to MDMA. I want to focus on how MDA feels opposed to MDMA. As MDA is not as potent at the 5ht1 sites (see above) the mood lift as compared to MDMA is thought to be less. Still there, but less. Since MDA acts much more on the dopamine and norepinephrine systems, it is considered to be speedier than MDMA. People often report the unstoppable urge to dance and move all night on MDA. The visual factor is much more pronounced, especially the closed eye visuals (cevs). With a higher does, oevs are possible. This seems to come into effect later in the trip for most people. MDA is considered to have a harsher comedown with more day after negative effects."


Sounds like 6-apb? You bet. A few bits sent a shiver down my spine.

"What kind of negative effects can I get from MDA?
Well, you can die. No I’m not joking. MDxx drugs are considered to be relatively safe, but if you take them irresponsibly, then the risk of death or serious bodily harm are increased greatly."


Hm. OK then, what's on Wikipedia? Not a lot for 6-apb or 6-apdb, but MDA has this (Remember the recent posts on this thread?) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine

notably

"MDA is also considered less predictable than MDMA, with effects varying greatly from person to person."

and

"MDA also differs from its methylated cousin MDMA in its acute toxicity—it is clearly more toxic, with toxicity indicative of overstimulation of the central nervous system and the cardiovascular system ... Death is usually caused by cardiac effects and subsequent hemorrhaging in the brain (stroke)."

Ooo. OK then.

Couldn't find much on overdose for MDA, but the following for MDMA was revealing. I've put bold on the ones I experienced, and a 8o on those which were especially prominent:

"Overdose.
Upon overdose, the potentially serious serotonin syndrome, stimulant psychosis, and/or hypertensive crisis, among other dangerous adverse reactions, may come to prominence, the symptoms of which can include the following:

* Psychological
o Disorientation and/or confusion
o Anxiety, paranoia, and/or panic attacks 8o
o Hypervigilance or increased sensitivity to perceptual stimuli, accompanied by significantly increased threat detection 8o
o Hypomania or full-blown mania
o Derealization and/or depersonalization
o Hallucinations and/or delusions 8o
o Thought disorder or disorganized thinking
8o
o Cognitive and memory impairment potentially to the point of retrograde or anterograde amnesia
o Acute delirium and/or insanity

* Physiological
o Myoclonus or involuntary and intense muscle twitching
o Hyperreflexia or overresponsive or overreactive reflexes
o Tachypnoea or rapid breathing and/or dyspnea or shortness of breath
o Palpitations or abnormal awareness of the beating of the heart 8o
o Angina pectoris or severe chest pain, as well as pulmonary hypertension (PH)
o Circulatory shock or cardiogenic shock
o Vasculitis or destruction of blood vessels
o Cardiotoxicity or damage to the heart
o Cardiac arrest, myocardial infarction, and/or heart failure
o Hemorrhage and/or stroke
o Severe hyperthermia, potentially resulting in organ failure

* Miscellaneous
o Syncope or fainting or loss of consciousness
o Organ failure (as mentioned above)
o Possible brain damage
o Coma and/or death"


Sound familar kids? Yup. You too?

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I repeat - if you had a good reaction to this drug, then that's really great! You've found a beauty. But a good time is not guaranteed. Be careful out there. Don't be an idiot like me. Step up REALLY carefully. Allergy test, then up the dose by as small an increment as you like, with PLENTY of time between increments. Whole days is good.

Thanks everyone! :)
 
Yes, Fargoer seems a bit naive. There are archaic retarded religious zealots in charge of all societies, governments and corporations still unfortunately who have an intransigent belief system that all pleasure is somehow "evil" and comes from their fairy-tale infantile "devil". Stupid idiotic assholes!

It is they who will insist over and over and over that any and all new pleasure-causing drugs or mind-altering anything are horrors that must be banned by law, and they will be, one by one. Until all such assholes die off, hopefully not too much longer, haha! (Wishful thinking on my own part I know)


bound to be made ilegal because it is fun and mind opening, and would make lurid headlines in the daily mail when some idiot mixes it gets alcohol poisoning and some 6-apb is found on him

Just got my free sample capsule which i will be comparing with the last capsule i took 2 weeks ago (which was generally positive experience apart from nausea and bruxism). will test with marquis and drop on friday.

Thanks for advice about minimising side effects.

• A few observations afte r the first time I tried Benzo Fury pellets and comparisons with what others report. I ate 2 hours in advanced, crushed 1.2 pellet, swallowed and started coming up after 1h5m and it was really hitting at 1h20m.

• That's surprising as for me I E takes minimum 55minuts and up to 1h 15m so the Benzos just take slightly longer. Lately I’ve taken Mephedrone about every 5thday so it’s not that my serotonin level is excellent. Is there that much difference between crushed and uncrushed pellets?

• I thinks sex would be easier on this than on MDMA or Mephedrone as it is easier to stay focused for long than on MDMA and erection gets/stays harder than on Mephedrone.

• Some people have reported little effect from Magnesium against bruxism. Some people have also had bad experiences with intake of stuff (/more 6-apb) the first couple hours. I took Magnesium before, and probably 3 and 5 hours in and it worked very well against bruxism. Could it be that the stomach just isn’t ready the first hours.

• It really lasted 7 hours from dropping, sleeping was possible after 9 hours.

• If this drug avoids any big incidents and isn’t toxic, it is hard for swim to understand why it shouldn’t stay legal. It isn’t moreish at all, lasts so long that most people could seldom take it and it would make it very hard to compete with from the regular drugtrade as you only need one pellet/100mg per night.
 
@ GlassCage Not telling you off because it's your choice. But what has been obvious is that overdoing gives negative effects, now who would have thought that ?? :lol: pretty simple really.
 
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Though perhaps these alleged 6-APB tablets ought to be banned. I have not even seen an actual exact chemical identification... has there been one?

I think by now the vast majority of party pills claiming via explicit claim or rumor to contain 6--APB are *TOTAL FAKES*, and are just some random crap, every one different, pressed into tabs and marketed in happy-go-lucky packs, by unscrupulous profiteers trying to cash in and get rich quick via all the buzz without regard for anyone's health.

I am shocked by tales of these "nuggets"?? Bags of random clumps of some junk or another... "here take this stuff to get a buzz, kids!" WTF?!?! Whoever is pushing these containing who knows what ought to be drawn and quartered, IMO.

All the differing effects at this point should make it quite obvious that "6-APB" is a big fat lie and just a marketing ploy, nothing more.
 
Though perhaps these alleged 6-APB tablets ought to be banned. I have not even seen an actual exact chemical identification... has there been one?

I think by now the vast majority of party pills claiming via explicit claim or rumor to contain 6--APB are *TOTAL FAKES*, and are just some random crap, every one different, pressed into tabs and marketed in happy-go-lucky packs, by unscrupulous profiteers trying to cash in and get rich quick via all the buzz without regard for anyone's health.

I am shocked by tales of these "nuggets"?? Bags of random clumps of some junk or another... "here take this stuff to get a buzz, kids!" WTF?!?! Whoever is pushing these containing who knows what ought to be drawn and quartered, IMO.

All the differing effects at this point should make it quite obvious that "6-APB" is a big fat lie and just a marketing ploy, nothing more.

I would have to say, as someone in full swing this evening that i would disagree with that...:D
 
@ GlassCage Not telling you off because it's your choice. But what has been obvious is that overdoing gives negative effects, now who would have thought that ?? :lol: pretty simple really.

he took two tablets which ya think compared to e would not be overdoing it mate..he admittdly should of only took one but that would of felt like he was underdoing it...lol

ps.. im not condoning taking 2 pellets ever..sorry for any confusion

thanks for your post glasscage, interesting reading:)
 
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from ADD:

My friend just analyzed a sample of purported 6-APB and found it to contain 6-APB, caffeine, and a-PVP. This falls perfectly in line with the "mad cat MDPV" or whatever stupid name it has been given which is also thought to be a-PVP. My guess would be that in preliminary tests 6-APB was found to be too serotonergic to induce truly fiendish meph type binging, so they added a DARI to increase the fiendishness quotient and, of course, increase profits. This would also make sense as 6-APB is a step toward IAP which, speaking in terms of fiendishness, is a step in the wrong direction.
 
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