The 6-APB thread

[chasing_s]

yeah, frankly I'm not convinced the vendors actually know what it is and have plumped for calling it something that they can be reasonably certain isn't illegal, rather than the slightly iffy one, though I am of the opinion now since the naphyrone acmd report / amendment it probably isn't illegal.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

p.s chasing i think its the filler in the pellets what stinks of tcp not the 6-apb mate

 

[chasing_s]

wouldn't have thought so, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were other fillers to what they claim in there, but if the fillers are correct loads of other real pills from the pharmacy would also smell of TCP. be interesting to know if the fillers listed are even correct.

also giving the neurotransmitters a break so won't be bioassaying it for a while.

 

[tragiclemming]

I would be willing to take a pellet for Mass Spec analysis if someone can point me in the direction of a forensic lab which handles requests from 'Joe Public' in the Greater London area.

 

[jpcardiff]

there is a good chance i will be getting a sample of 6-apb powder today, i posted i wont touch this shit again..but i told the guy i would give an honest appraisal of his product and being a man of honour im obliged to do so.. hehe

So you've gone from never touching this stuff to begging it off vendors [personal attacks removed]

Anytime you want to take that offer up let me know

 

[tragiclemming]

These people may be able to help....

Thanks. That's perfect.

 

[Vurtual]

I've had a similar experience to Vurtual with the Pellets in that the first time I tried them the subsequent doses in the, for want of a better word, session lead to at first nausea, then on doses later vomiting, the first experience was approx 95% of one, taking away the stuff used for reagent testing/allergy testing, then 4 hours later one more and 4 hours after that another. That's not to say I didn't have a good time, though ideally I wouldn't have been sick.

However on later experiences no nausea or vomiting was experienced, though this could be down to serotonin being rinsed by previous experiences, as there was not much time between the experiences. Clearly had I had an experience such as Kate & Felix initially I certainly wouldn't have been trying them again.

Yeah - when i redosed too soon after the previous one i threw up (i hadn't felt any nausea before that). However, this was the last of several redoses, so could have been due to that too. Saying that, some people seem to have had had good results when upping the initial dose (as i did when i topped up with half a pellet ~1 hour after the first).

The (obviously very sketchy) hypothesis i'm currently working with for myself is that it's better (for me) not to redose too early or too often (at least 6-8 hours); and that if i want to get higher, it may be better to up my initital dose (slightly) rather than boosting it before the first wears off a bit (i still don't want to go above a 1.5 initial dose yet).

This is my current personal working hypothesis and i want noone to copy it (get your own hypothesis). (Besides i doubt it will last past my next 'experiment').

/MrDoit - whatever it is in the pellets, i want that (whether it's 6-apb or not) - using the reagent tests at least helps rule out anything with a different reaction. I'm not sure that knowing it's 6-apb would actually provide much information seeing as how it hasn't been used on humans before (obviously it would be better to know anyway).

I suppose knowing it's 6-apb may allow some educated people to speculate on possible impurities or metabolites in the body (although requesting this may result in being described as 'Blue Peter'...)

 

[Droogs]

Doesn't sound like my cup a tea after reading through all these, I get too many paranoid thoughts to deal with anything psychedelic really.

I long for a nice subtle empathic chem that doesn't turn you into a jibbering annoying wreck.

 

[TMenderoflives]

Doesn't sound like my cup a tea after reading through all these, I get too many paranoid thoughts to deal with anything psychedelic really.

I long for a nice subtle empathic chem that doesn't turn you into a jibbering annoying wreck.

You should get that off lower doses mate. Most people who have experienced strong psychedelic effects took 2+ pellets

 

[zamzams]

p.s chasing i think its the filler in the pellets what stinks of tcp not the 6-apb mate

yeah i never had that smell until i got the pellets. the samples smelt mildly like araldyte glue (not much better tbh )

those pellets definitely weren't as clean a feeling as the samples i had though and were much more psychedelic. something about them stinks esp the purple reaction. hopefully the next lot will prove to be more worthwhile and result in a dark blue/black reaction. while i didn't not like the pellets the 2nd synth was much better imo. never had any nausea even after a full 100mg dose although my breathing was rapid and shallow for a while on the 2nd come up (which in hindsight was taken too soon (1 hour) after intial dose - would have been better to have left it 3 hours at least)

 

[Vurtual]

You should get that off lower doses mate. Most people who have experienced strong psychedelic effects took 2+ pellets

I agree that low doses can still be nice - i got a effect off ~33mg of sample, and some mates of mine split a pellet three ways and still got a buzz (YMMV before anyone starts...).

I've never got strong psychedelic effects from this, even at higher doses; just a touch of visual enhancement and a slight 'head' change (similar to mdma) - never anywhere near 'classic' psychedelic effects (not even as much as mda).

But everyone's different - i've known people to dislike even the slight psychedelic effect of mdma

^i only tried the first sample, and it was basically the same as the pellets for me (ymmv); and i did recognise the smell and taste.

 

[zamzams]

I agree that low doses can still be nice - i got a effect off ~33mg of sample, and some mates of mine split a pellet three ways and still got a buzz (YMMV before anyone starts...).

I've never got strong psychedelic effects from this, even at higher doses; just a touch of visual enhancement and a slight 'head' change (similar to mdma) - never anywhere near 'classic' psychedelic effects (not even as much as mda).

But everyone's different - i've known people to dislike even the slight psychedelic effect of mdma

+ 1 agree on this. my 30mg plugged dose albeit very mild was still lovely and on higher doses there;s nothing more uncomfortable than 6 hours of non stop nystagmus.8(

^^my samples were both 2nd synth and felt a lot nicer than the pellets so you may right about it being the 1st synth then...

 

[seejay33]

Someone talkin sense finally

Seejay

Whats the point in testing anything as :

a) We have no proof/identification of what chem the sample contained.

b) We have no proof/identification of what chem the powder is/pellets contain.

We need a starting point of at least formal identification of 1 chemical to compare all the rest with.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Doesn't sound like my cup a tea after reading through all these, I get too many paranoid thoughts to deal with anything psychedelic really.

I long for a nice subtle empathic chem that doesn't turn you into a jibbering annoying wreck.

Stick to one pellet and it's not psychedelic at all IMO.

 

[Frogster]

Doesn't sound like my cup a tea after reading through all these, I get too many paranoid thoughts to deal with anything psychedelic really.

I long for a nice subtle empathic chem that doesn't turn you into a jibbering annoying wreck.

if a low dose 6-apb can't do that for you, maybe Methylone is what your after?

 

[Droogs]

if a low dose 6-apb can't do that for you, maybe Methylone is what your after?

Methylone's probably my favourite drug, but even that can occasionally put me in a dysphoric anxious mood if my minds not in the right state on the come-up.

I reckon I'll give a low dose a go once the quality and reliability clears up a bit.

 

[TheBeef]

Well did everyone stay safe then?..remember i was complaining about only receiving one pellet instead of the four i ordered, i opened it last night and all four were in the one sachet ...what a spastic8(

 

[Xorkoth]

An update on any sort of aftereffects from my 2 pellet experience last Thursday... basically the 2 days right after were the worst, and they weren't bad, and were partly due to sleep deprivation and dehydration I think (I drank plenty of water but I 100% of the time had a dry mouth and sweat palms/feet/pits... right after I would take a drink of water my mouth would be a desert again). They basically consisted of pretty significant physical fatigue, tired muscles, and general low energy. My mood was pretty good the day after, kind of silly and slap-happy, and then the next day I felt slightly lower than normal in mood. These symptoms have decreased every day and today I feel pretty much normal, 4 days later.

So for me, as far as full-on empathogen/stimulants go, this one is pretty easy on me. But it still extracts a price, to be sure.

Overall, I liked it a lot, but it's not something I'm dying to try again. If it becomes reliably available in powder form at a better price, I will most likely get some though.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

An update on any sort of aftereffects from my 2 pellet experience last Thursday... basically the 2 days right after were the worst, and they weren't bad, and were partly due to sleep deprivation and dehydration I think (I drank plenty of water but I 100% of the time had a dry mouth and sweat palms/feet/pits... right after I would take a drink of water my mouth would be a desert again). They basically consisted of pretty significant physical fatigue, tired muscles, and general low energy. My mood was pretty good the day after, kind of silly and slap-happy, and then the next day I felt slightly lower than normal in mood. These symptoms have decreased every day and today I feel pretty much normal, 4 days later.

So for me, as far as full-on empathogen/stimulants go, this one is pretty easy on me. But it still extracts a price, to be sure.

Overall, I liked it a lot, but it's not something I'm dying to try again. If it becomes reliably available in powder form at a better price, I will most likely get some though.

i have been informed there is powder and peeps who took said its good, i got order in process though i need to do bank transfer( need wifey to give me some money)

 

[info.trance]

Few people in my circle of friends have reported after effects including being a little emotional. I've had a wacky tuesday. Grumpy easily rubbed up the wrong way.

It's really no diff from other happy things.

This stuff is very anorectic no desire to eat in the 24 hours post consumption of apb