Considering insufflating RC's tends to require lower doses than that of oral, and that this RC was specifically advised to people to avoid inhaling, do you think it was wise to insufflate 300mg in one go?
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Considering insufflating RC's tends to require lower doses than that of oral, and that this RC was specifically advised to people to avoid inhaling, do you think it was wise to insufflate 300mg in one go?
because its crystalised? or because of the effects? The vendor has always been reliable in past and the effects are similar to what most people have described.
Fools gold: Tell me about it man! I sniffed a wee little line and it was agony on nose and throat. 300 mg must have been hell!
has now been about 3 hours since 100mg dose and feel a bit 'wired', fingers are starting to twitch. Enjoying music more and more, generally feel pretty damn good just very different to what i was expecting. Only side effect is short term memory is a bit dodgy
Swim flirted with RC-necking leading to a daily peevee addiction which swim has ended since some personal insights and revelations occured during his '6-APB' trip (report at beginning of this thread) gave him some insights.
Such a good point and well made frogster though i would suggest leaving longer than a day. Also apart from a break , how else can monoamine depletion be rectified?
Contrary to what Mullered wrote I found the 2nd synth (for the avoidance of doubt this was the off-white powder sample) to give far more pronounced visual effects compared to the pills that are currently out.
I found the pills to be more nauseas compared to the sample though
Make of that what you will
I would suspect the effect is subjective, else circumstantial, as I have seen various conflicting reports regarding nausea and psychedelia in both samples and pellets. Personally I have experienced nausea and mild visuals with sample, but no nausea and more pronounced visuals with pellets, contrary to some others reports.
Enough sleep and healthy nutrition is the way to go. It can be achieved by having an optimized diet or with supplementation like 5-HTP (for serotonin production) and L-Tyrosine/Phenylalanine (for dopamine production). On the diet side this includes milk products, meat, fish, soy, nuts ect. Besides that, a lot of side-effects can be avoided by replenishing bodys mineral and vitamin stocks. I would recommend multivitamin juice, isotonic sports drinks, fruits, vegetables and mediterranian/japanese style food (like for ex. tomato/mozarella/basilic, sushi, tofu ect.)
Ok, so this shit is really weird. Crushed one pellet, had half of it around 4 hours ago, then the other half probably two and a half hours later. So far I don't feel any real euphoria, just slight tingles every other minute. It's like, I know there is something to be there soon, but it's been like that for the last hour. It's really smacky, I'm listening to some nice trance music, but have no urge to dance whatsoever.
I'll keep you guys updated.
I'll keep you guys updated.
Well I'm pretty flummoxed by these inconsistent reports, but it seems we all agree on a few things:
- the pellets give middling-to-strong visuals and pronounced eye wobbles and memory problems (though sometimes 2-3 pellets are required for this - I found just 1)
- they're not very euphoric/empathetic, at most only middlingly so (I found no euphoria)
- there's not a particular urge to dance on them (whereas with meph or mdma it's impossible not to dance)
- they are long-lasting, with a trip around 4-5 hours and maybe a 12-16 hour comedown, sometimes leaving people feeling drained for a couple of days, leaving liquid shits, some kidney pain maybe or upset stomach for 1-3 days after
- the pellets contain random amounts of active compound
So that's quite useful to know.
JedTheHumanoid
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Several people have found them euphoric I think...?
Banjo Fury
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I found the 2nd synth 100mg sample to be very trippy and heavy on the body. I was unable to move from my couch for about 3 hrs. Visuals such as when lifting my hand up, fingers would multiply and fly across the room. I also spent about 2 hrs throwing an imaginary ball around my living room. Enjoyable in it`s own way but if in a club maybe difficult to handle. No euphoria or empathy on this.
My supposedly 100mg pellet i sampled last weekend totally different experience. Wave after wave taking me higher and higher. Euphoria, empathy and music appreciation very high. Slight nausea on comedown after about 8 hrs but since have had a warm afterglow.
The pellets have obviously different strengths going by some of the reports on here. I would say it was the same chemical but at different dosages. I would be careful on dosage on this one because the visuals and hallucinations in the wrong setting could be scary if not used to this.
To sell these pellets espscially with differing amounts in them is wrong. Everyone needs to find their threshold mark on this chemical and until it is sold in powder this can not be done.
Stay safe.
Yea...me for one. I've found them to be the most blissful euphoric drug around.....pisses on most e's nowadays....lasts longer
I've tried two different orders (from 2 different O5 suppliers) and both gave me the same feeling. luckily.
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yer i was told the say but it aint true dont take anymore tonight n i reckon you will be fine but i doubt you will sleep!
Scoobysnacks
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you was very lucky to experience such an empathic, euphoric buzz, wish mine was the same
6 hrs... i took 1 and was high for 2 hrs
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I removed a handful of posts, mostly social-related or one-line posts that didn't add anything to the discussion. We're doing a whole lot better this time though, so thanks for that. 
So I received my 2 pellets today (I'm in the US). One is darker than the other and a bit smaller (305 mg), and the other is lighter and larger (329 mg). I plan to crush up both and take them orally tomorrow in the early evening. I'll report back. Given that I'm a bit of a hardhead, I think it sounds like 1 would be too little and I'd rather be a little overwhelmed than underwhelmed considering this is all I have and I'm very unlikely to get more, unless I really like it and reliable powder is being sold at some point.
So I received my 2 pellets today (I'm in the US). One is darker than the other and a bit smaller (305 mg), and the other is lighter and larger (329 mg). I plan to crush up both and take them orally tomorrow in the early evening. I'll report back. Given that I'm a bit of a hardhead, I think it sounds like 1 would be too little and I'd rather be a little overwhelmed than underwhelmed considering this is all I have and I'm very unlikely to get more, unless I really like it and reliable powder is being sold at some point.
Scoobysnacks
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I removed a handful of posts, mostly social-related or one-line posts that didn't add anything to the discussion. We're doing a whole lot better this time though, so thanks for that.
So I received my 2 pellets today (I'm in the US). One is darker than the other and a bit smaller (305 mg), and the other is lighter and larger (329 mg). I plan to crush up both and take them orally tomorrow in the early evening. I'll report back. Given that I'm a bit of a hardhead, I think it sounds like 1 would be too little and I'd rather be a little overwhelmed than underwhelmed considering this is all I have and I'm very unlikely to get more, unless I really like it and reliable powder is being sold at some point.
ya gonna plug them both at same time?
the inconsistency of trip reports is rather worrysome. Even if we can assume that people have indeed got the same substance off the pellets, there are huge variations in subjective effects. If that is due to variations in dose/pellet then we have quite a narrow therapeutic range with this chem, resulting in umpredictable subjective effects. For the sake of research, this chem will have to be available in pure powder form!
We have so far:
- no euphoria - strong euphoria
- no emphathy - moderate emphaty
- no visuals - strong visuals
- clear headspace - trippy headspace
- talkative - monged out
- no comedown - bad comedown
- moderate side-effects - bad side effects
- 1 pellet - 3 pellets fully active dose
consistency so far:
- come-up 1 - 2 hours
- plateau 3 - 5 hours
- after effects 4-8 hours
- "it comes in waves"
- side effects incude bruxism, nystagmus, dry mouth, neusea, diarrhea, dilated pupils, memory impairment, "beeng fucked" feeling
- most akin to MDMA, maybe MDA
We have so far:
- no euphoria - strong euphoria
- no emphathy - moderate emphaty
- no visuals - strong visuals
- clear headspace - trippy headspace
- talkative - monged out
- no comedown - bad comedown
- moderate side-effects - bad side effects
- 1 pellet - 3 pellets fully active dose
consistency so far:
- come-up 1 - 2 hours
- plateau 3 - 5 hours
- after effects 4-8 hours
- "it comes in waves"
- side effects incude bruxism, nystagmus, dry mouth, neusea, diarrhea, dilated pupils, memory impairment, "beeng fucked" feeling
- most akin to MDMA, maybe MDA
Thing is, perceived drug effects are to an extent (not entirely, obviously) socially constructed. Established drugs have established narratives (sometimes specific to different cultures/subcultures) which (presumably via confirmation bias, among other things) shape how likely we are to interpret ambiguous sensations in one way or the other, and how much attention we pay to some symptoms over others.
[ETA: Actually, I remember hearing (on Radio 4's 'Thinking Allowed' programme) that the observable effects are socially constructed too, i.e. there are cultures in which the effects of alcohol on, e.g., speech slurring and propensity to violence neither exist in their narrative nor are as commonly observed objectively as they are in, say, the UK. I guess it'd make sense for perceived effects to affect behaviour too.]
6-APB doesn't have an established narrative yet, so one would expect more varied subjective responses, I reckon, even if the drug were objectively consistent; until some kind of a consensus emerges on what 6-APB does.
[ETA: Actually, I remember hearing (on Radio 4's 'Thinking Allowed' programme) that the observable effects are socially constructed too, i.e. there are cultures in which the effects of alcohol on, e.g., speech slurring and propensity to violence neither exist in their narrative nor are as commonly observed objectively as they are in, say, the UK. I guess it'd make sense for perceived effects to affect behaviour too.]
6-APB doesn't have an established narrative yet, so one would expect more varied subjective responses, I reckon, even if the drug were objectively consistent; until some kind of a consensus emerges on what 6-APB does.
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Vurtual
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I agree with this (although it doesn't preclude dodgy doses, it's at least a competitive theory for the variation). I've certainly seen some confirmation bias in action in the reports (no doubt including mine).
My latest report on the pellets: i've found that redosing becomes worthless quicker than similar redosing on mdma (for me). Each redose produced less euphoric effect (or even none), while still extending the stimulation the full 8-10 hours (though the first redose did make it trippier). The final redose just made me throw up (i've never thrown up or even felt much nausea on the first come up) and not much else; but it did keep me awake.
i've also felt a definite mid-week dip 3-4 days after taking pellets, at least as noticeable as mdma (for me). I didn't get it on the sample or much on my first go on pellets, but i did last time (when i redosed more than once).
This is my personal experience after not many goes (3 on sample, 2 on pellets) on this supposed 6-apb: YMMV
Based on this, my preliminary advice for myself (you don't have to listen) is that this stuff (whatever it is) is better not to redose too much, and just accept the time profile of the substance for what it is. And also to try and keep a minimum of two weeks (preferrably four weeks) between doses to allow brain juice time to recover.
/for people who think that this thread should be closed: you've got a point, but given that lots of people are taking it, how else do you do harm reduction? (unless you're advocating the "Just Say No!" method of drug policy (like Zammo))
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