The 6-APB thread

[JohnnyVodka]

I should(n't?) also add, my arsehole has taken a serious beating over the last 12 hours. I woke up with a colon full of the most fieriest, gelatinous enema I've ever experienced. Every hour I'd wake up bolt upright and have to dump another unwanted load down the toilet. So fucking spicey, it's going to take weeks for my poor arse to recover.

Not sure weather this is a side effect of the 6-APB or not. Anybody else had nasty bum pisses afterwards?

I had quite a few shits while on it and did have a sore, burning sphincter. I do eat A LOT of chillies/spices and wondered whether it was due to them, though they don't normally affect me in that way. Could be the 6-apb...

 

[Mullered]

Bloody hell, cant believe there has been 2 more incarnations of this thread while I was away!!

Anyway,looking through the threads, interesting to see the pellets go a definite purple on the marquis reagent. I tested my last official sample a week ago and it went from dark blue to black - definitley not purple. I dont have my camera here at the moment but I will post photos when I get it back

 

[Mona Lisa]

I didn't find the comedown that bad the following day and was even able to go to work as normal. But I felt somewhat depressed the second and third day afterwards but felt back to normal today (the fourth day after taking it). Perhaps oddly enough, my skin complexion has cleared up quite noticeably since having taken it...wonder if it might have an antiseptic effect of sorts.

Also noticed rather strange dreams on the second night.

Felt that one pellet crushed was on the mild side...it took me almost three hours to fully peak on it and the peak was a plateau that lasted several hours. Not overly intense but felt energetic, euphoric and music was very good. Also experienced mild empathy. Felt comfortable even outside by myself in public. No paranoia.

I think I would have preferred one and a half to two pellets perhaps in stepped doses over a couple hours.

It's not mdma but still pretty good, though on the expensive side dose for dose. Don't like the smell of it on my sweat which lingered for a ocuple days post ingestion

 

[phillyx]

I posted my 6-APB TR on another thread, but now my brain is working and I'm pretty much back to baseline here's a more detailed account.

4pm Sat: took a 100/100/70 meth/meph/mdai bomb, having had a few drinks before.
5pm Sat: was nicely up and dancing
9pm Sat: sat down for dinner at a restaurant with some friends. I had started coming down from the earlier bomb and was feeling that I needed to take something. Obviously I had no appetite but I took the opportunity to swallow a 6-APB pellet instead (380mg) thinking it'd take a couple of hours by which time I'd be in a club.
9.30pm Sat: Had probably the most intense comeup I've ever had. My heart was racing faster than even on meph and breathing became difficult. Extreme open eye visuals, everything morphing, impossible to have a conversation or form memories, limbs jittering. Thought I'd better lay on the grass. I really did not like this.
1:30am Sun: Still tripping, stil on the grass, but it began to mellow slightly, enough for me to walk. My memory began to start working again. Heartbeat still very fast and all activity was tiring.
2am Sun: Laid on the beach, watching the sky which was nicely filled with disco lights and shooting stars. Might have got a little bit of sleep
3am Sun: Trippiness had ended although my eyesight was still pretty buggered, e.g. couldn't read anything on my mobile. Lots of jaw clenching. Didn't feel any empathy really, just drained from the brain-fuck. Still felt very stimmed though.
5am Sun: Got train home, feeling quite tired but couldn't sleep
7am Sun - around 11pm: Pupils were dilated at 7am still. Absolutely horrible comedown. Probably slept a bit, but not much. Heart palpitations, difficulty breathing, felt as though I was drifting in and out of consciousness, vision was still buggered until around 6pm, still had some jitters. A bit of tingling down my left-hand side.
11pm Sun: Had some booze to try to get to sleep. Which worked quite well.
4am Mon: Woke up, still felt a bit iffy, not really under the influence any more apart from still had an elevated heartbeat, vaguely uncomfortable breathing and slight dizziness.
3pm Mon: After a day of unproductive work, finally feel OK.

So that was 4 hours of extreme tripping (absolutely hated this), 1 hour of mild tripping (actually quite nice), then 14 hours of a monged out stimmed feeling, and then a further 8 hours until I felt normal again. No euphoria at all.

I'm inclined to never take it again. But because some people have reported euphoria and visuals that weren't too heavy, part of me thinks I should try a smaller dose, and maybe without doing other chemicals first. Not sure.

 

[Mullered]

I didn't find the comedown that bad the following day and was even able to go to work as normal. But I felt somewhat depressed the second and third day afterwards but felt back to normal today (the fourth day after taking it). Perhaps oddly enough, my skin complexion has cleared up quite noticeably since having taken it...wonder if it might have an antiseptic effect of sorts.

Also noticed rather strange dreams on the second night.

Felt that one pellet crushed was on the mild side...it took me almost three hours to fully peak on it and the peak was a plateau that lasted several hours. Not overly intense but felt energetic, euphoric and music was very good. Also experienced mild empathy. Felt comfortable even outside by myself in public. No paranoia.

I think I would have preferred one and a half to two pellets perhaps in stepped doses over a couple hours.

It's not mdma but still pretty good, though on the expensive side dose for dose. Don't like the smell of it on my sweat which lingered for a ocuple days post ingestion

Judging by all the reports I have read the dosage seems to vary alot pellet to pellet. 100mg (sample) absolutley smashed me so Im wondering if the majority of the pellets if any contain a full 100mg dose

 

[Scoobysnacks]

It is interesting you say this since these pills keep being described as having the scent of a hospital eventhough none of the listed ingredients or the original samples have this smell. When people first mentioned this I wondered if something was added to cover up the smell of skatole contaminating the aMT or maybe some aET analog they may have put in the pills.

i googled earlier drugs with tcp smell etc earlier as the smell has been bugging me,found nothing why would it smell like that?. all the shit i ever had none smelled like this

 

[change-jug]

Being in the US, I`m still waiting for mine to show up.But now that I`ve read all of these accounts I`m kind of hesitant to try 6-apb. And I`m really hesitant for my girlfriend to try it. These reports are all over the place. I just got my hands on some aMT and 2c-e while waiting for the 6-apb to arrive. I might just stick to that for now. But on the other hand I did pay for those pellets......

 

[xNockturnaLx]

I didn't find the comedown that bad the following day and was even able to go to work as normal. But I felt somewhat depressed the second and third day afterwards but felt back to normal today (the fourth day after taking it). Perhaps oddly enough, my skin complexion has cleared up quite noticeably since having taken it...wonder if it might have an antiseptic effect of sorts.

Also noticed rather strange dreams on the second night.

Felt that one pellet crushed was on the mild side...it took me almost three hours to fully peak on it and the peak was a plateau that lasted several hours. Not overly intense but felt energetic, euphoric and music was very good. Also experienced mild empathy. Felt comfortable even outside by myself in public. No paranoia.

I think I would have preferred one and a half to two pellets perhaps in stepped doses over a couple hours.

It's not mdma but still pretty good, though on the expensive side dose for dose. Don't like the smell of it on my sweat which lingered for a ocuple days post ingestion

Glad to know I'm not the only one who had very, very weird dreams and must agree I also noticed a very obvious clear-up of my complexion which seemed pretty strange to me as on Meph, always had a terrible complexion for the next few weeks.

Posted my own trip report on another thread and as I'd imagined, straight away accused of being a vendor but I genuinely had a great time on 2 pellets spread over just an hour between. Can't compare to MDMA but can't imagine be much better, for me this was brilliant and i'll be doing again, just shame it takes 2 pellets and not the 1 as was hyped

 

[invert]

Being in the US, I`m still waiting for mine to show up.But now that I`ve read all of these accounts I`m kind of hesitant to try 6-apb. And I`m really hesitant for my girlfriend to try it. These reports are all over the place. I just got my hands on some aMT and 2c-e while waiting for the 6-apb to arrive. I might just stick to that for now. But on the other hand I did pay for those pellets......

The sunk cost argument is a fallacy: given that you have paid for them, that fact cannot be changed; all you can change now is whether or not you take them... if on balance you think the risks outweigh the benefits, don't take them; otherwise do. Don't let the money you've sunk into them cloud your judgment.

 

[Scoobysnacks]

TCP stands for Trichlorophenylmethyliodosalic... the distinctive smell comes from the phenols which are the active ingredients inwardly the solution.

just found this

Phenol is also a versatile precursor to a large collection of drugs, most notably aspirin but also many herbicide and pharmaceutical .

what is a precursor can anyone explain?

 

[JackHereruk]

TCP stands for Trichlorophenylmethyliodosalic... the distinctive smell comes from the phenols which are the active ingredients inwardly the solution.

just found this

Phenol is also a versatile precursor to a large collection of drugs, most notably aspirin but also many herbicide and pharmaceutical .

what is a precursor can anyone explain?

A precursor is a chemical that is used in the synthesis process. It may be added at some point, or produced as a result of a reaction.

 

[amomentlikethis]

The sunk cost argument is a fallacy: given that you have paid for them, that fact cannot be changed; all you can change now is whether or not you take them... if on balance you think the risks outweigh the benefits, don't take them; otherwise do. Don't let the money you've sunk into them cloud your judgment.

Great post - makes me think about how we justify doing things without fully thinking them through. Put aside the cost, and make an educated decision, fully weigh up the harm reduction aspects and take it from there...

 

[skyHiGuy]

Definitely sounds like people are taking different chemicals.

In fact a lot of trip reports sound like an aMT experience, long come up, feeling sick and long duration!

Don't suppose people are being passed of aMT as 6-apb? Anyone know what Marquis reaction to aMT is?

AMT marquis is dark brownish yellow (erowid)

Does indeed seem like different chems by the marquis tests

The material swim took went pale yellow and fizzed with marquis noy exactly like unlike AMT
swims experience (#7)was similar to others here as well as some in the AMT thread. Could both substances be different yet have similar effects?

Someone really should send a pill in to ecstasydata.org They won't perform true quantitative testing, or even provide a list of synthesis contaminants, but if there's anything other than 6-apb in there, they'll list it in ratio to other psychoactives present.

swim really wishes to know what he took on saturday night so will send a sample to the website suggested by Turing Machine
(any advice about going about this anyone? please PM me)

report update
T+43 Swim noticed brief return of the visuals while otdoors colours intense lasted 10 mins
T+48 hours since talking the cap swim has had stomach gas problems for a couple hours these come and go but spent a while on the toilet.

Cheers

 

[Jabberwocky]

The sunk cost argument is a fallacy: given that you have paid for them, that fact cannot be changed; all you can change now is whether or not you take them... if on balance you think the risks outweigh the benefits, don't take them; otherwise do. Don't let the money you've sunk into them cloud your judgment.

cheers for pointing this out... its been clouding my judgement about something else!

this drug sounds worth investigating, but i'm worried about the massive variation in the reports re doses per pill etc. is there any way that over time (before it gets banned...) this might even out?? i don't know what market forces would produce this or anything so it seems a little hopeful but i don't know if this is teething problems with a new product or cos the vendors don't give a shit. i strongly suspect its the latter.

 

[FullofBeans]

It is interesting you say this since these pills keep being described as having the scent of a hospital eventhough none of the listed ingredients or the original samples have this smell. When people first mentioned this I wondered if something was added to cover up the smell of skatole contaminating the aMT or maybe some aET analog they may have put in the pills.

i googled earlier drugs with tcp smell etc earlier as the smell has been bugging me,found nothing why would it smell like that?. all the shit i ever had none smelled like this

The smell in Tcp is from the phenol in it apparently. Don't know what the link would be between this and 6-apb though?. I have four pills sitting here but have also been put off by the confilicting reports, and lack of proof of if even being what they say it is

 

[Mona Lisa]

Judging by all the reports I have read the dosage seems to vary alot pellet to pellet. 100mg (sample) absolutley smashed me so Im wondering if the majority of the pellets if any contain a full 100mg dose

Believe mine were probably on the weak side in spite weighing 370-390mg per pellet. Still enjoyed it though a bit weak. At least i didn't gurn much or get a headache. There was some rebound depression though, especially on the second and third days after ingestion. The very next day after was actually pretty easy due to an afterglow.

But apart from mild kidney aches the following day and the mild rebound depression, I didn't suffer too badly from this and appreciated how it's calmed down my eczema on my face.

 

[Turing Machine]

AMT marquis is dark brownish yellow (erowid)

Does indeed seem like different chems by the marquis tests

The material swim took went pale yellow and fizzed with marquis noy exactly like unlike AMT
swims experience (#7)was similar to others here as well as some in the AMT thread. Could both substances be different yet have similar effects?

I'm purely speculating here and I don't want anyone to take what I'm saying as fact in any way, but what I'm guessing is that whomever pressed these pills may have cut the 6-apb with a cheaper but active chemical like aMT to extend their short supplies. The thing about psychedelic cocktails is their effects are highly variable and unpredictable due to different compounds having different dose/response curves and relative tolerance to each active component varies from one person to the next. This might explain why the effects seem to lean in one direction at a low dosage and in another direction at higher dosages because one compound has a higher ceiling than the other. It would also explain why the effects seem to change substantially thoughout the experience because the compounds would have different timelines. Because the effective dosage for 6-apb is much higher, a marquis result for such a cocktail would be expected to be closer to 6-apb than aMT but this would not be certain since the level of homogeneity in the pills in unknown as well as the different intensity of the reaction with marquis between 6-apb and aMT. We'll only know when someone gets this stuff tested.

 

[jimmy_jedi]

Right, I am the first to admit that I was singing the virtues of the "official" pellets on Friday, but I guarantee I will not be taking again. I had one pellet at about 8 pm on Friday night. Been to the pub before hand and had 2 pints of lager. I was totally underwhelmed at the first one so about 2 hours later I crushed up half and bombed in a rizzla and for the next 4 hours things were amazing, music was ace, so much energy - I wanted to do everyting! Somewhere in amongst this I must have bombed a full pellet as there was only a half left and I knew my missus wouldn't have touched it.

At about 8 am my missus woke up to find me on the sofa chewing my face off and pouring with sweat. The next 16 hours were hell. All I could do was sit next to the fan to keep myself cool and stare blankly at the tv. I tried everything I could to get to sleep but nothing seemed to cut through. I eventually had a broken nights sleep from around 11pm to 6am.

On Sunday, I was still sweating, clenching my jaw and every noise made me jump. I have done plenty in my time but nothing has made me feel this toxic. Even today my head feels cloudy and I have a tingling sensation over my skin and pain in my lower back.

I appreciate I did too much and YMMV, but if 2.5 pellets did this to an experienced user like myself I worry that someone is going to find themselves in touble soon. I know I will feel good as new soon but you could not pay me enough money to go anywhere near this poison in the future.

Just needed to put my experience out there. Be safe.

 

[organicshroom]

as far as I can tell the CAS numbers posted in ADD came from scifinder who ARE CAS.

Thanks for that confirmation Vecktor. I needed to be very sure, otherwise it may be removed again on Wiki.

Is there any online reference I can link both CAS numbers too in case a reference is required?

 

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Finlay got round to posting my 6-APB trip report!

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=517885