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The 6-APB thread v. Is full of dummies

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walkthedinosaur said:
I know it's tempting amidst this remarkable love in for everyone to go rushing around telling everyone they know all about the new amazing RC they have discovered. It's a vain hope, but in the interests of not getting this substance banned by Friday, can people please exercise a little restraint? Don't go telling every muppet you happen to meet and please be sensible about dosages, the first time some numpty ends up in hospital saying they have had some new drug called "BF" the tabloids will be all over this like flies on shit!
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they already are mate, I've seen two news articles about this stuff already
 
F1kus said:
So from the people who have crushed it up and bombed it, how long did it take to kick in? Thats what I plan on doin after work, or put in a glass of water...

Thanks, and have fun x
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Around 2 hours mate, dunno how long you come up for though
 
MrDoIt said:
Mmm...Its been 2h 40m since I dropped now - not really feeling much except a sense of calm - Will I be wrong to drop another ? No intenseness/rushing etc - Is this still to come ?

Oh and RC Ninja - I was again thinking along the same lines - If this were the same chem by now I shouldnt be even able to see the keys on my keyboard never mind typing as normal.....
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Sorry to hear you're not quite there. I think it'd be unwise to take another right now though. My guess is that some people's digestive systems are breaking down the inert material much more slowly than others. If you took another one, you could end up with a very long lasting O.D. experience.

I also think it would be very instructive for the rest of us if you wait and report on whether anything new comes with your dose and how long it lasts in the end. This is more of the research part of the research chemicals experience. If your stomach/guts happen to be too slow to release enough of the active for you to have the expected strong experience, then your example would justify advising others to crush and perhaps dilute theirs in water for more reliable results.

I'm also concerned about the possibility that the product distribution is uneven between pellets for reasons I've mentioned before. Were this to be the case, other users could be in danger of overdose.

I for one think the pelleting method for distribution was a bad idea. Were they to instead package 100 mg of carefully-measured pure powder into separate foil packets, then users could select an appropriate dosage without needing a scale while avoiding all the complications that can arise with compounding.
 
Took a full pellet 3 hours ago, can brealy feel anything at all. Have been sick a few times, however this could be due to the amount of time i was sick after sessioning Heroin for the first time last night. Dissapointing so far.
 
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MrDoIt said:
How can the come-up on these things be so bloody long !!! Agree with above posters - am still yet to be convinced - If by 6pm Im still feeling like now (Although not unpleasant) I will not be impressed !!
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I recall you mentioned necking it whole, think that may explain the wait? Crushed and stuck under the tongue til dissolved might speed things up perhaps
 
MrDoIt said:
Mmm...Its been 2h 40m since I dropped now - not really feeling much except a sense of calm - Will I be wrong to drop another ? No intenseness/rushing etc - Is this still to come ?

Oh and RC Ninja - I was again thinking along the same lines - If this were the same chem by now I shouldnt be even able to see the keys on my keyboard never mind typing as normal.....
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Hang on mr doit... How many sandwiches have you eaten...?
 
botfly said:
Yeah I'm not convinced yet either, not seen any established posters saying how great it is yet, just lots of newbs joining only to share their experiences.
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told you they'd be shite and it would all be one big scam...

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^^I sampled from the same powdered batch as Zero & Shambles.

(In fact, I way over-dosed but that's a different story - one which can be found concealed in a few different threads if you're really interested).

(1) No; we can't say for certain that it was 6apb (although I'm pretty sure Shambles has seen some spectro on it). It was not like any other drug I have tried though, so take that as you will (I suppose I take from it that it was not a mixture of other RCs as some have suggested).

(2) Yes, it really was 'that' good

(3) Nothing since has come close to that quality, including anything coming from the 'official 5' this week

(4) Yes, anyone other than the 'official 5' claiming to be selling 6apb, is lying &/or scamming. Period. End of discussion. (Note, that they can sell a brand name such as "BenzoFury", and send you dog shit in a cap, and still be legit).

There are a number of different reasons why this product will never reach the quality seen previously. Some reasons I know for sure; others I can only guess at. None are really appropriate to speculate about in public. (HINT: there's a reason why this product went through a number of 'phases' of synth/sample/synth/sample. Think about it.)

My advice would be to stop getting so excited about Benzo 'wank' Fury and find something else to pin your hopes on. I think we will see a synth that gets back to previous levels eventually; but this won't be for ages, and will unlikely be with the existing group of official vendors or their manufacturer.

I think what you are likely seeing now is 5 extremely pissed off people, wondering how they can recoupe some of their £200k (per person) investment that they have been so emphatically screwed out of. Answer: well, they need to fulfil their pre-orders and repay their marketing expenses with 'something' don't they ;)

/conspiracy
 
Just reading this thread is like coming up and then right down on some kind of drug!!!

One minute you think everyone is happy and feeling the love - then someone comes in and insinuates shilling and you start to wonder causing you to drop right down into depression...

I don't think people not posting music links is proof though - plus that was kind of irritating.
 
To reiterate what I just said to MrDoIt and to address a lot of people's skepticism about this stuff, please keep in mind that psychoactive drugs must be absorbed from the digestive tract before having an effect!

Anyone here taken an "extended-release" tablet? I'm afraid what's happened here is that people basically received an extended-release formulation of the substance! Some people in particular may be breaking down the pellets very slowly. Unfortunately, this may significantly blunt the peak effects of the experience while extending the come-up and overall duration.

Of course, it's also possible that the pellets contain something different or less of the substance that others have reported favorably on, but it is nevertheless highly likely that the formulation of the pellets is at least partly responsible for the diminished effects.
 
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F1kus said:
So from the people who have crushed it up and bombed it, how long did it take to kick in? Thats what I plan on doin after work, or put in a glass of water...
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It's supposed to be hcl, not freebase, so should dissolve in water.. probably the best way to take it for fastest onset
 
I NUK3D U said:
^^I sampled from the same powdered batch as Zero & Shambles.

(In fact, I way over-dosed but that's a different story - one which can be found concealed in a few different threads if you're really interested).

(1) No; we can't say for certain that it was 6apb (although I'm pretty sure Shambles has seen some spectro on it). It was not like any other drug I have tried though, so take that as you will (I suppose I take from it that it was not a mixture of other RCs as some have suggested).

(2) Yes, it really was 'that' good

(3) Nothing since has come close to that quality, including anything coming from the 'official 5' this week

(4) Yes, anyone other than the 'official 5' claiming to be selling 6apb, is lying &/or scamming. Period. End of discussion. (Note, that they can sell a brand name such as "BenzoFury", and send you dog shit in a cap, and still be legit).

There are a number of different reasons why this product will never reach the quality seen previously. Some reasons I know for sure; others I can only guess at. None are really appropriate to speculate about in public. (HINT: there's a reason why this product went through a number of 'phases' of synth/sample/synth/sample. Think about it.)

My advice would be to stop getting so excited about Benzo 'wank' Fury and find something else to pin your hopes on. I think we will see a synth that gets back to previous levels eventually; but this won't be for ages, and will unlikely be with the existing group of official vendors or their manufacturer.

I think what you are likely seeing now is 5 extremely pissed off people, wondering how they can recoupe some of their £200k (per person) investment that they have been so emphatically screwed out of. Answer: well, they need to fulfil their pre-orders and repay their marketing expenses with 'something' don't they ;)

/conspiracy
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I'd love 2 have tried that first sample then....this benzo "wank" fury has got me into a very enjoyable mess now for hrs
 
iom said:
To reiterate what I just said to MrDoIt and to address a lot of people's skepticism about this stuff, please keep in mind that psychoactive drugs must be absorbed from the digestive tract before having an effect!

Anyone here taken an "extended-release" tablet? I'm afraid what's happened here is that people basically received an extended-release formulation of the substance! Some people in particular may be breaking down the pellets very slowly. Unfortunately, this may significantly blunt the peak effects of the experience while extending the come-up and overall duration.

Of course, it's also possible that the pellets contain something different or less of the substance that others have reported favorably on, but it is nevertheless highly likely that the formulation of the pellets is at least partly responsible for the diminished effects.
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Agreed. I've had pills were it has taken me two hours and everyone else twenty minutes to come up on.
 
RC Ninja said:
Izzit just me or are the original sample TR's WAY different to the babbling on this forum??

When Zero, Skyline & Shambles were tripping on the samples there was a shed-load of music videos being posted and everyone was loved-up, pledging eternal friendship to one and all etc etc!

So far there's been zip on the music front - just the "I'm as high as a kite" & "I'm outta my tree mate" & "I'm really fucked-up" BS - So far all it is is just Me, Me, Me, Me etc
*and don't start posting music vids now either - It'll just show what a n00b you are and prove beyond doubt classic placebo behaviour!*

It just doesn't add up imho

To me it seems the pillets and the powder samples are two different concoctions.8)

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Also - The normally highly articulate Shambles was dropping simple grammatical & spelling errors all over the place whilst tripping & posting - Not so here. You could publish these "high-as-a-kite" TR's in a medical journal they are so polished - just weird :\
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The difference in lucidity of reports could just as easily be attributed to a lower dose in the pills.
 
jus got back from my mates feeling a little something but not like a pill
had a few stellas now and some nice skunk so thats work

for the moeny i think its crap

man this stuff makes u shit
 
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