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The 3-FPM Thread v3 - Is it advisable to stick a glass pipette inside my rectum?

StoneHappyMonday said:
IME the lining of your rectum is pretty fucking tough. Pushes out enough huge amounts of shit doesn't it? Anyway, can't really answer re 3-F but I did go through 7g in pretty quick succession, like under a week, with no problems. I believe Fug makes me look like a lightweight when it comes to extended 3-F plugging.

It was my ONLY way to take mephedrone. And I took lots of mephedrone. And, likesay, same applies to MDMA. And MXE. I could go on. Probably best not to.

I've introduced well over half a dozen to plugging. Everyone an immediate fan.
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Thanks for the info. I have the same doubts as spacejunk. My nose seems to be my most indestructible organ and easily heals within a few days after a binge without permanent damage. I'm not so sure about my stomach regarding this and my rectum is pretty much unknown to me, but seems even more sensitive than my stomach. But if you are not assless, yet after a few grams plugged, it cannot be that hazardous.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Snorting is revoltingly painful compared to the homo-erotic beauty of shoving something up my arse.



Honestly have no idea what you mean here. Never lost a drop. Once plugged in my car drivers seat at a party in a castle (illegal rave) with my gf's best friends standing right by the door not having a clue what we were doing.
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I probably just have shitty (heh) technique then. Sure snorting is painful, but I dunno, the super-sharp initial sting fades fast enough and the burn till it's done soaking in is, if not pleasant, closer to the realm of fun-pain for me. Possibly just a learned response of course, or maybe I just have a secret masochist side shining through, but whatever, to each their own so long as it works for you I guess.

I definitely felt the compulsion to redose more than I ever have before in the early hours of sunday morning, but not to the point where after I said to myself "one more, then switch to speed" I had to break that promise. That desire definitely made me slightly more liberal on my dose weighing too, but I was able to keep things at roughly 50 mg an hour despite it. I can really see how hitting it harder or with a stronger route can throw things off the rails though, especially given how all stims make you more impulsive.

Also, a thought: I wonder if the reason 3-FPM is more tolerable plugged than the other routes is the plugging solution is sufficiently dilute that the 3-FPM can't attack you strongly enough to be noticable. This wouldn't explain why it's so severe when taken orally though, but my theory there is that it's somehow stimulating the production of more stomach acid or otherwise screwing with stomach acid to cause it to damage your stomach, not necessarily directly chemically burning it. But that really is just a guess.
 
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Hehe, cool. i remember plugging a tiny tiny bit of 2c-p once (~2mg on top of a ~6mg oral dose i think - [that shit takes hours to kick in] and it stung like a motherfucker.)

I probably didnt dilute it enough though - i think what you said boa
about the 3-fpm being diluted in relatively large amount of water is a good point.
Also, yeah, the rectum is at the, er business end of the digestive tract. Pardon the puns, but it can probably handle a lot of shit.
I was just kinda hoping someone could clarify that for me.

Funnily enough, the experience i mentioned of plugging meth, was actually done in a weird way - dry, wrapped in a rizzla :|
It was a one-off, but there was no pain or complications from doing it that way - and i believe meth is fairly caustic (i havent touched it in years).

Also - "50 mg/hr"; love it!
 
Having said all that, a GLASS pipette? Are you fucking mental?

2ml pipettes from needle exchanges for free. 5ml oral baby medicine syringe from chemists for free or 50p at most.

True story, though I've told it here before. Once went into my local chemists for 5ml oral syringe. Actually got asked, just this once, why I needed it. "For my plant food innit"

Think about it. (If you still don't get it, and I have to, I'll explain later).
 
If one is ever in dire need of oral syringes/graduated pipettes the quickest way, depending on your location, is to pop to any pharmacy operating an exchange policy (all marked on the door with two opposing arrows in red and green...) and ask for some "supplies", often they'll take you to the (more) private area/consultation room and then ask for needleless syringes - the UK places carry red marked bags of 200 2ml syringes so one visit can last months of use.
Always a good idea to ask for the filters, cookers, swabs and assorted items in addition, that way you are never reduced to week old bottle caps and particulates in solution.
 
On the plugging thing, I've podgered 3-FPM several times but not all that often so could only speak to occasional usage and I never noticed any problems at all. No discomfort from my usual 100-200mg dose dissolved in ~2ml of water. Been a while since I've done it but as I recall it feels much smoother and longer-acting than vaped (obviously) with a somewhat similar duration to oral only without the dicky tum.

In related news, I'm with SHM on the lack of need for "absorption time". I have always podgered standing up and never had any problems with drainage. I think the trick is to get it far enough in that you're past the second sphincter (but not so deep you skewer yourself). If it's a larger volume of solution i may leave it in place for a few seconds, maybe a lil shimmy (because in my mind this sloshes it around all the nooks and crannies - plus it's kinda funny to be shimmying yer hips with a syringe sticking out your backside) and you're good to go.

Fug said:
I recall asking you about plugging technique about 7 years ago. I sent you a pic of what syringe I was using (my cats) and it was a behemoth of a barrel. You lol'd and told me a 1-2ml should do the trick, rather than unnecessarily stretch out my hole as I'd been doing. Can't thank you enough for keeping me tight.
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Ha! Glad to have been of some assistance. Anal seepage due to an overly flaccid rectum is never a good look :D
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
This is west Wales. They thought I meant actual plant food.
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That's great =D

Shambles said:
In related news, I'm with SHM on the lack of need for "absorption time". I have always podgered standing up and never had any problems with drainage. I think the trick is to get it far enough in that you're past the second sphincter (but not so deep you skewer yourself). If it's a larger volume of solution i may leave it in place for a few seconds, maybe a lil shimmy (because in my mind this sloshes it around all the nooks and crannies - plus it's kinda funny to be shimmying yer hips with a syringe sticking out your backside) and you're good to go.
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This is among the best paragraphs of text i've come across this year. Bravo! :)
 
Ceres said:
3-fpm will rot your cock off
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SquidInSunglasses said:
You say that like it should dissuade me : P
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I did hear of some bloke getting an improved hit from cocaine, by inserting it into his urethral meatus (that sounds like a name for a band I would like to see, but it's just the medical term for a part of the body also known by a very politically-incorrect name). Unforfunately for him, it caused some rather nasty chemical burns, requiring amputation of the penis. I can only imagine 3-fpm to be even worse in that respect.

Regardless, I don't thnk it would be at all wise to rely on emergency surgery to correct a bodged DIY attempt. There are too many ways it could go horribly wrong ..
 
When 3 first hit the RC scene a couple of years back, my preferred ROA was vaping. It wasn't long before a sore appeared in the centre of my tongue (I posted a picture of it some time ago). I presumed it was a chemical burn due to the caustic nature of the substance, though no-one else reported similar issues. It never healed, even if I didn't have any for a couple of weeks. When the PSA came into force and my access to 3 was cut off, I thought it would finally heal up. Two months down the line and it still hasn't - and got even worse when I started using an e-cig to try and cut down smoking.

Fearing the worst, I googled 'tongue cancer' and sure enough, the images and symptoms were consistent with mine. So on Monday I plucked up the courage to visit my GP. He was concerned enough to make me an appointment to see a specialist at the hospital, and to have my blood tested.

Blood test was two days later (that was fun as I have fuck all veins left - I had to show her several possible sites and she eventually got me) and my hospital appointment was yesterday.

I had prepared myself for the worst.

It turns out I've got thrush. Fuckin thrush (candida albans) - naturally present in all our mouths, but a sudden favourable change to its environment (e.g. higher oral temperature from vaping substances) can allow it to flourish. What a bastard relief!!

Why couldn't my GP have diagnosed that ffs?
 
Well i am glad thats all it was considering all the weird things you put in your mouth and where they have been before that.
 
Relieved and slightly (if inappropriately) amused to hear that FUBAR.
Dr Google strikes again eh?
Glad to hear you're ok mate.
 
consumer said:
Well i am glad thats all it was considering all the weird things you put in your mouth and where they have been before that.
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Exactly! And the worst of it is that I was on the verge of giving up booze and cigs... Phew!
 
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