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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

We used a product called Resource in the hospital for those who were malnourished or could not get food down. Not sure it's sold in the UK though.

When I was done with a few months of over-indulging in drugs last year, and the consequent depressed state, I was down to under eight stone and Josh advised me to ask my doctor for something similar. I think those sorts of concoctions pack a much bigger punch than Complan. It didn't help me gain weight but it helped me to rebuild my appetite. I'm up to ten stone now, the heaviest I've ever been in my life, but that seems to have correlated with me stopping being a constant stoner. I still like weed and will smoke it socially with friends but I rarely buy it any more.

As a little update, I re-dosed about half an hour ago and the distortions are no longer just in my peripheral vision. I think I'll turn off the lights and listen to some bluegrass.
 
Cheers for the reminder! I decided to check out my knees after reading your post and they are indeed a wee bit purple, but I have been sitting on them for the past twenty minutes. I'm actually being relatively conservative with it, compared to when I was taking the stuff last year. A good example is how I told you I spent five hours building a shameful tab mountain - I didn't dose or even smoke a cigarette in that time. It was 3.5g on Saturday and it's now probably just less than 2g (I've had some since I last weighed it).

It's the first proper batch I've had since I swore off it in August last year. The only other stuff I've had was my free gift from a vendor. I am expecting maybe a week-long depressive episode when I run out but that will pass.

As for the essential supplements you mention, I am doing quite well on the eating front. Despite the photograph Josh posted, I managed to re-heat and eat a Domino's from last night. Also, as I've mentioned before - I've been drinking two Complan a day which has 26 different vitamins and minerals added to it. This is the nutritional value per serving, not including the milk and wee bit of ice cream I add.

NSFW:
per 55g serving

Energy 1106 kJ / 243 kcal

Fat 8.1g

of which: saturates 3.5g

Carbohydrate 34.2g

of which: sugars 22.7g

Fibre 0g

Protein 8.5 g

Carbohydrate 36.8 g

Salt 0.3 g

Vitamin A 301 µg

Vitamin D 5.1 µg

Vitamin E 5.0 mg

Vitamin K 31 µg

Vitamin C 29 mg

Thiamin 0.66 mg

Riboflavin 0.81 mg

Niacin 4.6 mg

Vitamin B6 0.99 mg

Folic Acid 104 µg

Vitamin B12 0.71 µg

Biotin 17 µg

Pantothenic acid 2.9 mg

Potassium 396 mg

Chloride 254 mg

Calcium 308 mg

Phosphorus 273 mg

Magnesium 58 mg

Iron 3.7 mg

Zinc 2.3 mg

Copper 0.3 mg

Manganese 0.39 mg

Selenium 11 µg

Chromium 8.0 µg

Molybdenum 13 µg

Iodine 48 µg


I know it's lacking in a number of B vitamins but it goes down easier than water and it's as good as a light meal when the 3-FPM removes my appetite for solid food.

Complan is a great choice and one I would heartily recommend, however you really are negating a lot of the benefits by not filling in the nutrient gaps. Washing down a handful of capsules with a viscous, tastebud-drowning protein shake is as simple as it is effective, takes nigh on zero extra effort and ensures adequate absorption and utilisation of each component. Calcium Carbonate and Chelated Magnesium top my list of necessities for a frolic in the fiend fields, increased BA, improved concentration, reduced stress on the cardiopulmonary system, no dopamine-diarrhoea, far less muscle tension and general peripheral adrenergic stimulation....
The list goes on, as does I. ;)

So about 300-500mg/day vapourised? While it's certainly more than could ever be considered benign or remotely advisable I wouldn't personally think it excessive to a clinically dangerous degree. The plateau in positive activity tends to poke the pulverised remnants of impulse-control and reward processing behaviours and laugh at the futile scrabbling to expel any remotely worthwhile amount of Dopamine after around the 750-1000mg/day mark IME. It took far longer than it should have done to realise that multiplying the dosage is absolutely pointless due to the massive acute release adding to the eternal lingering metabolic products pumping out DA as fast as it can be produced. There is no efficient storage, no stockpile, just a drawn-out dopamine depleting dance with noradrenergic dirtiness, with a free serving of downstream desensitisation long after your return to "sobriety"!

Bx are exactly what is needed though, much more than the rest, due to functioning in the synthesis of the biogenic amines each lungful trades for its toxicity. Get as fat as you want, without providing the relevant precursors to the economy of euphoria there is nought but an extension of the disgraceful crash and minimal enjoyability to be expected.
I may type up a piece on nutrition and supplementation in a more detailed essay format later on, it would form invaluable revision material for myself and could be of interest and, even, value to someone. :)

The concept of food is the only issue, the actual eating is surprisingly easy. Nothing like MDMA and a digestive biscuit, for example...

The tabs reproduce like bacterial cultures, each genesis and generation consisting of the original with a slight mutation buried somewhere in the microuniverse of its D/RNA - they never seem to be filled with my own work though. I can sit and stare at a text box for hours, think of a reply and never actually transfer it from cortex to keyboard. ;)
 
My recent batch causes more anxious and twichyness than the last one I had, reckon vendors are selling shit product due to the possible ban? Apperently the site is good so maybe I got unlucky but someone else agreed that they were weaker but didnt mention the anxiety etc.
 
Vasculitis is reported frequently and I, perhaps wrongly, believe the peripheral constriction of blood vessels and subsequently multiplied intraocular pressure is responsible for the alarmingly apparent obliteration of visual clarity during a binge.

Funny you should say that. More than once I've ended my semi-regular 24-48h (1-2g) binges with burst blood vessels in one eye. I'd been putting it down to too long staring at a screen but I used to go far, far longer on peev and never once had such issues. Had several other issues but no burst blood vessels. Thanks for the info <3
 
Funny you should say that. More than once I've ended my semi-regular 24-48h (1-2g) binges with burst blood vessels in one eye. I'd been putting it down to too long staring at a screen but I used to go far, far longer on peev and never once had such issues. Had several other issues but no burst blood vessels. Thanks for the info <3

Bet your intra-occular pressure wasn't the only thing that "went up" and the blood vessels in your eyes weren't the only thing that "got busted" eh? eh? eh?

Sorry... as you were......:)
 
Funny you should say that. More than once I've ended my semi-regular 24-48h (1-2g) binges with burst blood vessels in one eye. I'd been putting it down to too long staring at a screen but I used to go far, far longer on peev and never once had such issues. Had several other issues but no burst blood vessels. Thanks for the info <3
I've had blood shot eyes (in only one as well I reckon) when I was up all night on it. This was a while ago when 3-fpm wasn't shit.
 
I've had blood shot eyes (in only one as well I reckon) when I was up all night on it. This was a while ago when 3-fpm wasn't shit.

I wouldn't describe it as 'bloodshot' in my own case. One eye looked like it had gone ten rounds with Tyson. I've had many a bloodshot eye from extended stim binges but two days/two grammes producing far and away the most extreme eye damage - temporary or not - is orders of magnitude worse than anything else I've experienced. FWIW, for me this has only happened with recent batches.
 
I've tried 3 twice (2 half gramms) and both times it was the sparkly glittery powder that is generally considered to be "the shit stuff"

The second time I threw most of it out ...

It was awful......just a horrible wired (too much caffine like ) stimulation....

I thought it was just me but maybe not...

Didn't take enough to have any eye issues though......
 
It was awful......just a horrible wired (too much caffine like ) stimulation....

I find it very calming. I find all highly dopaminergic stims very calming though... at least until the sleep deprivation, dehydration and malnutrition help push things over into psychosis and/or mania anyway. Never felt the need to push it past a couple days/couple grammes with 3-FPM though. The law of ever-decreasing returns is strong with this one - and in all honesty it's only borderline worth bothering with in the first place. IMO and all that.

I've not found especially noticeable variations in batches either tbh. A few that have been notable iffy but overall reasonably reliable since the early ones. The "fact" that all batches are "the shit stuff" compared to the honeymoon period is a strong theme in all stim discussion threads. Comes with the territory. I've found 3-FPM to be far more reliably "as expected" than most though.
 
I find it very calming. I find all highly dopaminergic stims very calming though... at least until the sleep deprivation, dehydration and malnutrition help push things over into psychosis and/or mania anyway. Never felt the need to push it past a couple days/couple grammes with 3-FPM though. The law of ever-decreasing returns is strong with this one - and in all honesty it's only borderline worth bothering with in the first place. IMO and all that.

I've not found especially noticeable variations in batches either tbh. A few that have been notable iffy but overall reasonably reliable since the early ones. The "fact" that all batches are "the shit stuff" compared to the honeymoon period is a strong theme in all stim discussion threads. Comes with the territory. I've found 3-FPM to be far more reliably "as expected" than most though.

Since I only had it twice and consumed less than a gram there wasn't a "honeymoon period".....

I hated it from the start.....

I'm not a stim fan though.....I blame FUBAR for leading me astray :)
 
If you don't like stims I would be moderately amazed if 3-FPM was the one that turned your head :D

I was meaning in general. Anticipation and disappointment over the relative merits of every order is a constant in all stim discussion threads.
 
If you don't like stims I would be moderately amazed if 3-FPM was the one that turned your head :D

I was meaning in general. Anticipation and disappointment over the relative merits of every order is a constant in all stim discussion threads.

I always tend to excuse 'the shit stuff' by thinking " it must be my tolerance" or "the novelty has worn off, that's all". Then every now and then I receive a batch that makes me realise that the 'shit stuff' is just 'shit stuff'.

Same with phet...
 
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Sleepless night for me by the looks of it. Got straight back this evening, and out comes the 3. Just finished my last line, and now I'm laying in bed. Damn I miss F-lam so much. No matter how much 3 I had, it would always put me to sleep regardless.

This 3 isn't quite right though. Blood shot eyes here too, although I haven't really thought to look until it was mentioned.

Excuse to find better 3? Yeah.
 
Sleepless night for me by the looks of it. Got straight back this evening, and out comes the 3. Just finished my last line, and now I'm laying in bed. Damn I miss F-lam so much. No matter how much 3 I had, it would always put me to sleep regardless.

This 3 isn't quite right though. Blood shot eyes here too, although I haven't really thought to look until it was mentioned.

Excuse to find better 3? Yeah.

General concensous seems to be that the 3 is a bit off ATM....

They're probably scraping the barrel with the ban immanent...
 
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