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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

As I've ranted about before, the term "RC" used freely and without specificity is infuriating.
Non-lethal RC incidents, to my mind at least, are common in SCRA use due to vendors fucking up volumetric dosing (if a child can make cordial then a business can mix solvent, target molecule, and carrier with similar ease), completely false lists of contents, inherent anxiety due to the unknown and panic attacks induced by overdosing. It is well accepted that a vast number of instances requiring medical attention occur. The first reported fatality after ingestion of a niche drug with the only "data" being conjecture via extrapolation and limited SAR and a toxicological profile of nil pois is big news though.

The article called them "legal highs", but since I have instinctive hatred of that term I switched for something more palatable. Still really dumb that they didn't try at all to get data on what was causing the problems. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it was SCRAs with atrocious dosing guidelines or shitty blends supported on herbs.
 
What's best practice if you're going to be out and about on something unknown then?
The best policy is to ALWAYS be honest and if you have any of the chemical left give it to the paras. We dont give it to the cops even if its a class a we just hand it in to poisions control at the hospital.....there is no comeback on you and it maight save your life.
 
The best policy is to ALWAYS be honest and if you have any of the chemical left give it to the paras. We dont give it to the cops even if its a class a we just hand it in to poisions control at the hospital.....there is no comeback on you and it maight save your life.

Thanks, I'll remember that, hopefully it never has to come up though.

Looks like my speed was a no-show so I'm back on 3-FPM for tonight. Kinda sucks that I'm stuck on shit, but it worked pretty well last time so here's hoping this one is as good.
 
Thanks, I'll remember that, hopefully it never has to come up though.

Looks like my speed was a no-show so I'm back on 3-FPM for tonight. Kinda sucks that I'm stuck on shit, but it worked pretty well last time so here's hoping this one is as good.

If it's any consolation, 3 fpm is way better than any Street phet I've had the displeasure I've received for years (not accounting for DW purchases of course...
 
Pretty crazy od's every weekend but then they're heavy drinkers there so I guess the approach to drugs is the same.
 
Pandora's box. SCRA, surprise surprise...

Its just beggars belief. It wouldnt surprise me if Photocannabinoids and SCRA's are responsible for more deaths than any other 'class' of NPS. Of course we all know that this particular issue can be solved overnight but as despite how safe smoking Cannabis is its immoral so the law abiding citizens will have to stick with their 'noids in the meantime as we all know that the exercising moral authority is far more important than peoples health, safety or their lives.

As the NPS Act approaches Im just becoming more and more intense, and come the start of April a couple Bluelighters and myself are heading to Westminster to cause a scene. Im getting on so this is my last chance to do something spontaneous and political.
 
I feel rather silly now on taking a colleagues word that someone had definately died from a rc stim when i cant confirm it or find a source. I should know better. Anyway whay i can say with certainty is that rc related 999 calls are at record levels and a cardiac arrest was reported in the news. Mainly noid related stuff though. As i find out more ill report more.
 
It readily disolves in water without heat so i imagine would be suitabke for IV. The big problem is its caustic nature with i imagine is terribke for the veins. For thinge like 10% Glucose that we use IV for hypoglycemia we have to use a large vein and an 18 gaugi cannular or the pain is terrible. I. Imagine it the same with 3-fpm.
 
Vital clarification: what exactly do you mean by "freebasing"?
The term is used incorrectly to refer to the act of vapourisation by some people, freebase is a reference to the chemical composition of a particular compound. Liberation from its complexed acid (thus freeing the base... geddit?) is how a freebase is acquired and carries a vastly different solubility profile as a result: freebase should not be IV'd unless you fancy using elephant syringes to sufficiently solve the target so that it doesn't immediately precipitate out of solution the second it hits the bloodstream and clog every system it reaches like an angry dickslap to the heart from the laws of chemistry.

If you simply mean vaping: yup, 3-FPM is of a composition highly conducive to efficient use by such a mechanism.
The melting point is low enough to provide almost instant phase transition when heat is applied. It should run cleanly: translucent trails to the point it can actually be difficult to even see where the puddle is!
DO NOT OVERHEAT IT. Seriously, not only are you destroying the drug before it even reaches your system, you are generating particularly toxic products: even Hydrofluoric Acid and gaseous Fluoride are possible if you go way beyond the boiling point, before that the morpholine ring is lysed to release assorted Nitrogenous vapours: NH3, NO radicals, NO2, NO3, HNO3 et cetera.

IV use is something I really do not advise - aside from being innately caustic to the point it makes even Meth look like hand lotion, the high is enjoyable but not remarkable at low-moderate (IME: 30-75mg) doses but becomes a beast to be reckoned with after a certain point (no, I shan't even begin trying to assign a value to that for endless different reasons). The insane redose compulsion, do not think for a second it is exaggerated here, severe vasoconstrictive properties, relatively severe tremor, inability to focus the visual field, and unavoidable corrosion do not make for a great combination with massive euphoria during the rush but a peak duration so minute it threatens to invert space-time.
Easily the most destructive thing I've ever shot. Thrombophlebitis is something I never experienced until I threw 3-FPM into the spiky arena.

[G, call me any time you need to, fella']
 
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