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fairnymph said:
Not at all. Eugenics requires limitations. He wasn’t even able to do any type of embryo selection until quite recently. At most you could say he does selective breeding - like everyone. Also, IVF is dysgenic. I WISH he were eugenicist.
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You're probably correct in regards to the application of the word - Eugenics is likely a state oriented exercise whereas what he is doing is outside of the state, but it aims to control genetic expressions in subsequent generations and provides additional wealth and resources to the bearers of that genetic material. It's he bloodline purity that monarchists chose, just applied to a private citizen rather than a foundationally public figure.
 
fairnymph said:
Prove it.
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You pretty much admitted Trump only thought of himself when you said that applied to 99.99999% of politicians. So, that needs not be proven. As to the rest, that's why you were answered ⬇︎⬇︎⬇︎
jasperkent said:
Study American History.
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fairnymph said:
All of them are IVF, except for maybe his first child with Grimes - the one with the weird name. That’s way worse than artificial insemination. But yeah, he’s definitely a huge personal pronatalist. I have never played fallout, no.
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X - the one he's running around with in very strange situations.
 
mal3volent said:
But you probably wouldn't ever say, "Distilled blackness is an awful thing to be around - no fucking culture... bad hangs."
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There's an inherent soul to blackness that seems to fade with the melanin loss in whiteness

Though... given the violence in sub-saharan africa - maybe there's something to avoiding distilled blackness. Who knows... it's much harder to get a good sense of, especially as a western white person.
 
fairnymph said:
A non-answer. How about you prove that Trump doesn’t stand for anything, & prove that one politician of your choice does? I think Trump’s just more honest than other politicians. That doesn’t mean I think he’s a good guy. I don’t trust any politicians or either big party. But I don’t understand this ‘Democrat presidents are great but the Republican ones are evil’ - just like I don’t understand it when Republicans say the same thing flipped. They both seem utterly delusional takes to me. Not trying to strawman you as you have not explicitly said any such thing, but you kind of have implied it.
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Well, let me put it this way. As a gay man, I've watched the last several years as one party has made me and mine its demonized scapegoats for political gain. I've had members of one party accuse me accuse me... repeatedly... of raping children merely for existing, taking part in society, and demanding the same civil rights and equal treatment under the law for us that everyone else enjoys. I've seem you lot similarly accuse plenty of other LBGT people of raping children merely for existing and taking part in society. There's a thread over in The Dive with plenty of examples of those. I've seen one party immediately begin attacking LGBT people and rights the moment it seized power... just like it said it would. I've seen one party repeatedly calling for me and mine to, in increasing order of preference, not have the full rights of citizenship, or to be kicked out of the country, or to just be killed. I've seen one party, after reducing women in the US to the status of handmaids, and after immediately engaging in craven spin-doctoring to present the impression otherwise, have one of its own slip up with the messaging and reveal that Lawrence and Obergefell are next on its chopping block. I've seen one party not just wanting to deny us equal access to civil, commercial, and social services; but wanting, seeking, and in some cases already legislating, to deny us access to health care.

I've seen the other party doing none of that. In fact, the other party has, at least publicly, mostly opposed all that

The other party may waste some of my taxpayer dollars on stupid shit that makes me WTF and roll my eyes. The other party may have forgotten how to effectively do its damned job. And the other party may actually just be indifferent and pandering for my vote and not really care about me at all. But the other party is not actively and maliciously trying to harm me and mine. When one party is in power I have a target on my back and have to be continually on the alert, looking over my shoulder, watching my back, and worrying about myself and the people I love... for fucking years on end! When the other party is in power, I can at least trust that reasonable and responsible adults are in charge; and I can let my guard down, relax the hyper-vigilance, not HAVE TO pay constant attention and worry to politics, and let the stress from all that flow away and go back to just living my life with the peace of mind that I am free to live that life. That's worth paying slightly higher taxes.

Good versus evil may be too simplistic a way to put it. But I sure as shit know which party it is in my best interests, my friends' best interests, my peers' best interests, and my loved ones' best interests, to support. And I know which party it is in all of our best interests to fight, oppose, and obstruct in any way I ever can.
 
tryptakid said:
There's an inherent soul to blackness that seems to fade with the melanin loss in whiteness

Though... given the violence in sub-saharan africa - maybe there's something to avoiding distilled blackness. Who knows... it's much harder to get a good sense of, especially as a western white person.
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I personally don't believe a person's soul or inherent value has anything to do with skin color.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
So you're saying that the solution to the issue caused by restricting the gene pool is *restricting it even more*?

In humans selective breeding is done on an individual pairing basis not population
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It depends on your goals. I value purity but not to such a high extent that I’m interested in inbreeding, but for others who want a certain type of extreme purity that may indeed be the best way for them to reach their specific goals. I don’t like big government or any type of top down legislation. But I do favour making as many eugenic options available to the public as possible. Both negative and positive.
 
tryptakid said:
Any culture that's distilled to a level of high purity is something I find... boring.

I like the synergy of multiculturalism - the music, the art, the food, the fusion of ideas, and the strongest characteristics of many things coming together ina beautiful tapestry.

I'm also a being of dynamics and chaos, not order and rules, so that probably plays a part in why I gravitate in that direction. To me, cultural distillation is the path to soullessness.
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You seem to think that globalism or the urban monoculture equals white culture. White culture is incredibly varied and diverse.

Censorship and force diversity (what’s touted as multiculturalism) is hardly organic culture either…it’s a joke.

You can’t have multiple cultures without some segregation. Segregation is essential to creating differences. That’s why the more the world has become globalised the more we have lost individual cultures. And immigration only makes that all the worse.
 
tryptakid said:
There's an inherent soul to blackness that seems to fade with the melanin loss in whiteness

Though... given the violence in sub-saharan africa - maybe there's something to avoiding distilled blackness. Who knows... it's much harder to get a good sense of, especially as a western white person.
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I don't know if it has anything to do with distillation or concentration but rather education and cultural memory of exposure to other cultures combined with the impacts of generational trauma or oppression that has heavily influenced the current state

fairnymph said:
It depends on your goals. I value purity but not to such a high extent that I’m interested in inbreeding, but for others who want a certain type of extreme purity that may indeed be the best way for them to reach their specific goals. I don’t like big government or any type of top down legislation. But I do favour making as many eugenic options available to the public as possible. Both negative and positive.
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How do you feel about migration from Asia, Africa, South America, or the middle east to your country of residence?
 
mal3volent said:
I personally don't believe a person's soul or inherent value has anything to do with skin color.
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I think skin color is a correlation to the genetic background of a human. When we limit our genetic codes to a very specific group it causes the gene pool to become increasing limited and prone to ill effect.

Look at sickle cell anemia - a genetic disease that specifically affects people of african descent, but which reduces its prevalence when racial mixing occurs.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
I don't know if it has anything to do with distillation or concentration but rather education and cultural memory of exposure to other cultures combined with the impacts of generational trauma or oppression that has heavily influenced the current state


How do you feel about migration from Asia, Africa, South America, or the middle east to your country of residence?
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I'd say that it's not one or the other, but all of the above.

It's the reason we have to look at things intersectionally. It's not just about race, it's about history, it's about class, it's about religion, it's about indigeny vs. migration vs. citizenship....it's about interactions within the group and outside of the group, it's about cultural trauma and memory.

Human consciousness evolved through multicultural exchange, specifically the use of metaphor to communicate between different cultural groups during the golden age of ancient greece, resulting in the loss of the gods (which was actually bicameral mentation vs. modern consciousness) and the bronze age collapse.

Read about Julian Jaynes - The Origin of Consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind.

When cultural contact is limited, we begin to devolve - genetically, behaviorally, cognitively, and culturally.
 
Brought to you by Trump's Department of Offence: book bans!!!! In the words of Jesse Pinkman: Yeah, bitches!!!!

Julianne Moore in ‘Great Shock’ After Donald Trump Bans Her Children’s Book ‘Freckleface Strawberry’ From Schools: ‘I Can’t Help But Wonder What Is So Controversial’ (banned in Department of Offended Defense Pentagon schools, for clarification)

In this scandalous book by that bleeding heart liberal Ghoulianne Moore, a "semi-autobiographical story about a seven year old girl who dislikes her freckles but eventually learns to live with them when she realizes that she is different ‘just like everybody else.’" Glad we got rid of this trash and kept the snowflake libtards out of DOD schools!!!

DEI SUCKS! DEI SUCKS! DEI SUCKS!

Edit: Also, "A memo sent out to all administrators in defense department schools in Europe last week, that has been obtained by the Guardian, outlines a range of other changes that have to be made by all staff. Email signature blocks must no longer give personal pronouns, or include “quotes, sayings, or mottos”.
 
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someguyontheinternet said:
Wouldn't any policies preventing migration from specific regions count as top down government implemented eugenics?
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I think that’s a stretch. Primary purposes of a nation are to maintain its identity and sovereignty. It cannot do that via dilution, multiculturalism etc.

Do do you oppose African or Asian nations remaining homogeneous?
 
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