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[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

I relapsed on methadone after like 6 weeks off it guys.

I am in so much pain. Stabbing chest pain, can’t even swallow anymore. Doctors don’t know what the fuck is wrong and it will be a month before I see a specialist that will tell me nothing is wrong.

I know this is going to lead to a new set of problems but I suffered with this for one month straight barely sleeping . The first two weeks of the withdrawal were actually easiest because I didn’t have this lung and throat problem that was caused by smoking weed with my already damaged lungs 2 weeks into methadone cessation

I started aquring material for my suicide today….and that was just a sign that maybe I’m suffering too much to stick to NA and maybe methadone is the best option.

Here you friend. Please be easy on yourself and so gentle with yourself … you’re doing the best you can for sure. I’ve kept up with your posts and I’m very proud of you.

I’m about to try to lay down because I’m having a crappy pain night. But who knows if I’ll even be able to sleep … point is, reach out to me any time you need someone to talk to that understands.

I hope your kitty Jack is with you watching over you.
I’ll be keeping you in my good thoughts and holding on to hope for you. I hope you’re able to rest a little tonight.
Sending love, strength and solidarity
Gentle hug

 

[kiely]

also @kiely this is out of the blue but have you ever tried lyrica/gabapentin?

It's difficult to discuss right now. But your fine. I just don't feel well. My immune system is way above base line. It's like having the flue all of the time but I never get sick because my immune system kills everything. It killed me. Meds bring it down. I would like methadone or Suboxone I mean Seriquiel. But lierica does nothing for me.
Thank you for always looking out. I appreciate that. And seems like you are quite tough yourself. Stay that way. Enjoy it while you can. It goes by fast. Right !! Gawdddd So good to hear from you !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Always.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Here you friend. Please be easy on yourself and so gentle with yourself … you’re doing the best you can for sure. I’ve kept up with your posts and I’m very proud of you.

I’m about to try to lay down because I’m having a crappy pain night. But who knows if I’ll even be able to sleep … point is, reach out to me any time you need someone to talk to that understands.

I hope your kitty Jack is with you watching over you.
I’ll be keeping you in my good thoughts and holding on to hope for you. I hope you’re able to rest a little tonight.
Sending love, strength and solidarity
Gentle hug

Thanks.

I edited my post with bold text but the summary is that the methadone did not touch this pain whatsoever and it’s not a matter of the pain being too intense or the medication being too weak.

Like it literally just doesn’t work on this at all.

I am absolutely terrified now.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

I relapsed on methadone after like 6 weeks off it guys.

I am in so much pain. Stabbing chest pain, can’t even swallow anymore. Doctors don’t know what the fuck is wrong and it will be a month before I see a specialist that will tell me nothing is wrong.

EDIT: even a highish dose of methadone after being clean for 6 weeks did absolutely nothing for my pain. I feel it having an effect, but it doesn’t touch this pain at all. I’ve never in my life experienced pain not responding to an opioid like this. I am terrified and defeated


Like I’ve had pain that was so severe that an opioid wasn’t strong enough for it…but this is different. It isn’t extremely severe and methadone is powerfully so it should take the edge off….literally nothing.

Sorry man hope everything works out.
I never had the pleasure of doing methadone I hear that us the hardest come off in existence.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Sorry man hope everything works out.
I never had the pleasure of doing methadone I hear that us the hardest come off in existence.

Most people come off insane doses. I didn’t find it particularly harder than Suboxone to come off. But methadone and Suboxone do seem to be the worst.

I sometimes wonder how many people could kick methadone if they were tapered off on an easy withdrawal like transdermal fentanyl.

But that would make too much sense and wouldn’t keep ppl miserable and enslaved like all of society is designed to do to ppl

 

[lolis my thesis]

Sorry may I ask Where is the pain?
Same pain that you are on methadone for?
try advil too
Sorry to hear about your struggles
Im on 20mg methadone and struggling myself;
The constant prodding only to hear u are healthy
Which is not the case which seems to anger the doctor or else you are a hypochondriac
Well hope you can find a better quality of life soon; suffering is for the birds

 

[Ds]

Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. made it another trip around the sun!

I relapsed on methadone after like 6 weeks off it guys.

I am in so much pain. Stabbing chest pain, can’t even swallow anymore. Doctors don’t know what the fuck is wrong and it will be a month before I see a specialist that will tell me nothing is wrong.

EDIT: even a highish dose of methadone after being clean for 6 weeks did absolutely nothing for my pain. I feel it having an effect, but it doesn’t touch this pain at all. I’ve never in my life experienced pain not responding to an opioid like this. I am terrified and defeated


Like I’ve had pain that was so severe that an opioid wasn’t strong enough for it…but this is different. It isn’t extremely severe and methadone is powerfully so it should take the edge off….literally nothing.

hey man, know that you are not alone. a good friend of mine just relapsed after 2ish years clean and sober. he started dating a chick and he immediately started going through her pill bottles because he knew that she took knlonipin, and before he knew it he's taking her hydrocodone and then buying the shit off the streets for an insane amount of $. & he told me that what he was expecting to feel and in reality he didn't feel anything. (he is used to doing fentanyl).

Fucking sucks having to deal with pain man. I'm dealing with some nerve pain in my leg that i believe that I got from huffing nitrous (ALOT), and now I'm set up to see a doctor next week because of the pain isn't getting any better. & my fucking family doctor won't do shit.
It sucks, I'm already on a high dose of suboxone that I take everyday, and I just hope that maybe that shit will help with the pain, but really I'm having to just take a lot of advil.

Glad that you noticed your mistake though man and made it back.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Glad that you noticed your mistake though man and made it back.

sorry you’re in pain too.

I wouldn’t say I’ve made it back…I’m in severe pain and still opiated from last night. If I stay in this much pain I’ll likely stay on methadone and be hooked again.

Got some steroid meds so hopefully that can calm the pain down enough to not keep taking methadone

 

[kris66]

Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. made it another trip around the sun!


hey man, know that you are not alone. a good friend of mine just relapsed after 2ish years clean and sober. he started dating a chick and he immediately started going through her pill bottles because he knew that she took knlonipin, and before he knew it he's taking her hydrocodone and then buying the shit off the streets for an insane amount of $. & he told me that what he was expecting to feel and in reality he didn't feel anything. (he is used to doing fentanyl).

Fucking sucks having to deal with pain man. I'm dealing with some nerve pain in my leg that i believe that I got from huffing nitrous (ALOT), and now I'm set up to see a doctor next week because of the pain isn't getting any better. & my fucking family doctor won't do shit.
It sucks, I'm already on a high dose of suboxone that I take everyday, and I just hope that maybe that shit will help with the pain, but really I'm having to just take a lot of advil.

Glad that you noticed your mistake though man and made it back.

Have you tried Lipoic Acid for the nerve pain in your leg? I have been dealing with a lot of pain in both legs and a friend suggested I try R-Alpha Lipoic Acid. I really didn't expect much but it has helped quite a bit.

Lipoic Acid is recommended mostly for neuropathy but it also increases energy levels and can induce weight loss. The recommended doseage is 600 mg/day but you may want to try 300 mg first to make sure you can tolerate it. (R-Alpha is the best absorbed.)

I hope that you find some relief. Leg pain sucks.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

Im going to be attempting to quit ice starting next week I believe. I apologize if I was being toxic as hell last time I posted on here. I'm going to try to taper cus I've been taking like metric butt ton daily.

I do have a concern if it is actually legitimate. I usually just am in pain but sharp pain for a few days. Someone told me quitting when you are using a large amount for an extended period of time puts you on the psychosis possible spectrum because of all the dopamine leaving your brain and not being produced? If anyone thinks this is valid let me know I dont want to like break into psychosis while I'm at my job unexpectedly. For reference the only visual stuff I've been getting is stuff moving a little bit like walls or my ceiling fan. That really is all.

I need nothing medical to be documented, ill ride anything out. I am the Michael Jordan of enduring human suffering I just need no freak outs, I can't lose my job I'll be screwed.

 

[thatmf]

Im going to be attempting to quit ice starting next week I believe. I apologize if I was being toxic as hell last time I posted on here. I'm going to try to taper cus I've been taking like metric butt ton daily.

I do have a concern if it is actually legitimate. I usually just am in pain but sharp pain for a few days. Someone told me quitting when you are using a large amount for an extended period of time puts you on the psychosis possible spectrum because of all the dopamine leaving your brain and not being produced? If anyone thinks this is valid let me know I dont want to like break into psychosis while I'm at my job unexpectedly. For reference the only visual stuff I've been getting is stuff moving a little bit like walls or my ceiling fan. That really is all.

I need nothing medical to be documented, ill ride anything out. I am the Michael Jordan of enduring human suffering I just need no freak outs, I can't lose my job I'll be screwed.

It's not an easy ride at all. You might get anhedonia for a few weeks/months (up to 6 months I believe is the worst) then after a year or so things will start to settle back into place (receptor wise etc). I doubt you'll break into psychosis. At worst you might be super paranoid and have slight hallucinations...but nothing close to psychotic (imho).

The taper could be a good idea, see how you go with that. Ripping the bandaid off works for some but your taper could potentially work. But I'd be writing every dosage/time etc in a notebook or something.

It's not going to be easy. I'm just saying, but I'm here if you need any advice/help

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

It's not an easy ride at all. You might get anhedonia for a few weeks/months (up to 6 months I believe is the worst) then after a year or so things will start to settle back into place (receptor wise etc). I doubt you'll break into psychosis. At worst you might be super paranoid and have slight hallucinations...but nothing close to psychotic (imho).

The taper could be a good idea, see how you go with that. Ripping the bandaid off works for some but your taper could potentially work. But I'd be writing every dosage/time etc in a notebook or something.

It's not going to be easy. I'm just saying, but I'm here if you need any advice/help

Thanks man I'm starting to cut back today. I've been having some sertonin surges like way stronger than brain zaps. But besides that stuff is good. I know when I'm full off I'll be in pain. Thanks for the support.

 

[kiely]

I need vitamins and minerals and I worry about my brain.

Or why am I so tired all of the time ? I feel like my brain is too.

It's sad when ... I have to take a benzo to feel happy.

Like it helps me to get up and do things too.

I am proof that living with pain is possible. I just hurt that way.

Now I am slow and sluggish. And lazy. Mostly hurt.

~~~

So I think vitamins and minerals help to boost brain power and can help.

Enjoy Healthy !!

 

[HealingEnergy14]

Thanks.

I edited my post with bold text but the summary is that the methadone did not touch this pain whatsoever and it’s not a matter of the pain being too intense or the medication being too weak.

Like it literally just doesn’t work on this at all.

I am absolutely terrified now.

Hey man I know we conversed before here but I can't remember(I'm drunk as fuck and offf DCK); have you tried dissociatives yet?

Some of the longer acting ones are really great for pain and general mood. I wouldn't recommend it usually because they are certainly addictive but when you are so depressed you're close to suicide I think they can really help.

Much love brother.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Hey man I know we conversed before here but I can't remember(I'm drunk as fuck and offf DCK); have you tried dissociatives yet?

Some of the longer acting ones are really great for pain and general mood. I wouldn't recommend it usually because they are certainly addictive but when you are so depressed you're close to suicide I think they can really help.

Much love brother.

Dissociatives destroyed my bladder causing chronic pain. I was medicating chronic back pain and just added organ pain

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

I fucked up my tapering because my friend got heroin, I went out and did it with him, he like flipped and totaled his car with me in it. He like has a warrant now for leaving accident / scene of a crime and his wife like flipped out brutally about it and its causing home destruction for them I guess. So he gave it all to me, I know how crazy that sounds. That's like every heroin addicts dream and I'm not seeking it out. I'll the need ice for when I come off of it.
I know there's no excuses but when there are opportunities present themselves I tend to take them I guess.
Then I'm starting over and I'm going to go to meetings and update a lot.

I'm still getting some flash shocks in my brain but I don't think its anything to worry about.

 

[kiely]

I'm still getting some flash shocks in my brain but I don't think its anything to worry about.

Probably not to much. Try not to worry.

Now you will have to be careful.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I So he gave it all to me, I know how crazy that sounds. That's like every heroin addicts dream and I'm not seeking it out. I'll the need ice for when I come off of it.

Glad you and other drivers are both not seriously injured from the accident. One of the biggest things I ever regret was driving high / not that I ever had a bad accident but it was one of the things I feel most guilty about having done.

Does (meth)amphetamine actually help you with opioid withdrawal?

I remember trying to use adderall a few times during withdrawl and while it eases it while you are high on the amphetamines- as soon as it wears off the withdrawl is a thousand times worse.

Is the heroin absent of xylazine? Because withdrawing from that lowers the seizure threshold and meth use also does do it’s a double siezurr risk if you are going through meth use and xylazine withdrawal.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

Glad you and other drivers are both not seriously injured from the accident. One of the biggest things I ever regret was driving high / not that I ever had a bad accident but it was one of the things I feel most guilty about having done.

Does (meth)amphetamine actually help you with opioid withdrawal?

I remember trying to use adderall a few times during withdrawl and while it eases it while you are high on the amphetamines- as soon as it wears off the withdrawl is a thousand times worse.

Is the heroin absent of xylazine? Because withdrawing from that lowers the seizure threshold and meth use also does do it’s a double siezurr risk if you are going through meth use and xylazine withdrawal.

No there's no xylazine there might be some fent. Yeah methamphetamine injected at high doses makes most all of the pain go away but you can't sleep, rest or eat so still kinda rough. I need it so I can go to work.

Yeah bro dude he had mitsubishi evo 8. Idk i if you know about the evo that the most desirable version to get. My friends devastated about his car it's really funny like what about your wife and getting kicked out lol.

I've been a few brutal accidents I never get hurt for some reason, I have blown up an airbag before.

Probably not to much. Try not to worry.

Now you will have to be careful.

I'll be straight just a minor set back. For me i guess not my friend, I feel god awful about that, I didnt initiate it though.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

No there's no xylazine there might be some fent. Yeah methamphetamine injected at high doses makes most all of the pain go away but you can't sleep, rest or eat so still kinda rough. I need it so I can go to work.

Yeah bro dude he had mitsubishi evo 8. Idk i if you know about the evo that the most desirable version to get. My friends devastated about his car it's really funny like what about your wife and getting kicked out lol.

I've been a few brutal accidents I never get hurt for some reason, I have blown up an airbag before.



I'll be straight just a minor set back. For me i guess not my friend, I feel god awful about that, I didnt initiate it though.

oh That makes sense if it allows you to work in withdrawal.

What about effects on the GI tract? That’s a “shitty” side effect of WD.

sorry if you already said but I forgot….was your friend high / drunk that resulted in the crash?


I’ve blown up an airbag from a fender bender…that shit hurts and also burned me really badly in the hand. Had bruised everywhere m v g