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US Politics The 2021 Former President Trump Thread - I look very much forward to showing my financials, because they are huge.

Just pointing out that the deomcratics are the one who the most racist of them all. Abraham Lincoln freed black people with the republican party. While democrats try project their racism onto others with scapegoats like trump. Even kamal harris said biden was a racist.

Left wingers think they woke but deep down they are just another racist.
 
Just pointing out that the deomcratics are the one who the most racist of them all. Abraham Lincoln freed black people with the republican party. While democrats try project their racism onto others with scapegoats like trump. Even kamal harris said biden was a racist.

Left wingers think they woke but deep down they are just another racist.

The republican party of today is nothing like the republican party of the Civil War era. It's barely anything like the republican party prior to 2016.

Also don't you live in New Zealand? Love that you don't and never have had to live in the country your beliefs would ruin. You have to live in a country that's already substantially more livable because of the policies you hate so much.
 
You are correct about communist China; they are not our ally, and will do whatever it takes to shake America to it core. I’m more interested in China than I am with Russia from a homeland security threat.

Allegiance needs to be rebuilt with our allies to keep our adversaries at bay. The US will quickly rebuild these alliances. America will regain it’s title as the engine that keeps the world spinning.

Exactly. Trump has spat on and destroyed the alliances we've had for so long. Now hopefully we can start to rebuild our alliances with other countries with common beliefs. And we desperately need to if we want to secure America's interests in the future. As well as those of all the other western countries.

With a president who's ultimate loyalty isn't to himself and wouldn't betray the country got the sake of his narcissism. Who advocates for unity rather than division.
 
So great growing up in a country where white people tried to geocide my people and wipe our culture out and also steal the land. While only just now after 150 years things are slowly been made right. You don't know what polices i hate. Maori battalion went to WW2 and destoryed the germans in north africa the first victories in battle on the british side even after all that enslavment and genocide still rose up vs evil and bail out all the europeans.

I sure love seeing this country become a chinese vassal state that does whatever china says and does not speak out about the holocaust of Muslims in china and ethnic minorities but the government will sure put on the media works and pretend they care to gather votes when bad things happen in our own soil. How can how government say the accept everybody here yet they won't speak out vs the literally holocaust of Muslims. Trumps government is literally one of the few in the world calling out genocide.

All you left wingers are just going to keep comitting geoncide. Communism and fascists' once the world is done them with them we can move on.

Australian white people literally tried to wipe out every last aboriginal. Seeing your post a few weeks back or whenever it was about how you think aborginals should not get welfare. Do you not even care about the stolen generation or righting the wrongs of the past? or is your perfect world with your perfect left wing polices only for white people because it sure seems like it.
 
I didn't ever say aboriginals shouldn't get welfare. I said they shouldn't get it purely for being aboriginal.

People should get welfare because they're disadvantaged, and if aboriginals are more disadvantaged they should get more welfare. But they shouldn't just automatically get it cause of the color of their skin. As if their race, now and forever, makes them universally disadvantaged and in need of the help of whites.

Cause that's racist.

I care about righting the wrongs of the past up to a point. If we can change anthems or constitutions to be more inclusive to everyone I'm all for it. I'm all for investing money to improve the lives of aboriginals, provided we do it the right way.

But if you think righting the wrongs of the past means you get money for existing for the rest of eternity. You're about to smash head first into cold hard reality.
 
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its not racist.when white people stole hundreds of billons of resources from aboriginals with all the gold platnium diamonds uranium in australian land. how all the mining companies destoryed ancient burial sites. How white people tried to genocide aboriginals and still to this day are extremely racist vs them. $100 billion would not even be close in the repayments of all the pain and stealing the British did to them.

You would never know what its like to grow up as a person of color, culture and opressed subjected to racism at every turn in life while also trying to be killed off by the very government which runs the country.

I also feel for white people who are disadvantaged in the hoods aswell but they are not racist and usually come from mixed poor migrant backgrounds aswell refugees of other wars. For the british government unless they pay all the indigenous people $5 trillion across the world they can go fuck themselves.
 
Weeeelll I'm sure you'll be shocked to learn that you're not getting 5 trillion. :D

You're not getting your lands back either.

The wrongs of the past can't and won't be righted in that way.

EDIT: look man, I'm legit sorry to make light of this. I know that what was done by white people against other racists is horrible.

But society can't function by trying to endlessly undo injustices or grudges going back through human history.

What was done can't be made right. It can't be absolved. We all just gotta live in the today and move forward.

So you don't get your lands back, you don't get to have us transform the world into some hypothetical country you might have had and then have all the whites leave. That's not on the table.

What you get is to live in the societies that exist now with the rest of us. You get to ask for fair opportunities like everyone else has now. You get to reap the wealth that has been gained from those sins of the past.

But that's it. You have a right to a society free or prejudice today. Not one that's endlessly making up for the mistakes of yesterday. That's never gonna work.
 
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Maori have slowly been getting their land back here and payouts. I want to see the same for aboriginal. The fact mining companies still just contiune to blow up ancient aboriginal caves and burial sites on stolen lands is extremely fucked up. You lefties showed your true colors i already made up my mind about you.
 
Well yea, no kidding you already made up your mind. You're close minded. That's what close minded means. That your mind is made up and nothing will change it.

Also us lefties? Us lefties are the ones who even have the slightest interest in making up for the past. The right just wants to keep on with the exploiting.

We might not be able, nor willing to undo everything we ever did wrong. But at least we feel a bit sorry about it.
 
nah im open minded i don't try justify trayon martin been killed at night for defending himself vs a racist killer.

BAHAHA. defending himself? He was defending himself was he?

I had no idea that if you follow someone to their car then punch them to the ground and kick them, that's you "defending yourself".

Yea no. You act like a fucking punk you're liable to get shot like one.

Don't attack people. Don't instigate a fight you're not prepared to lose.

This is everything that's wrong with your warped belief system. You think that trayvon martin had some right to beat up Zimmerman because he felt offended that Zimmerman thought he was a thief.

Well guess what. He didn't.

Trayvon Martin was a punk who instigated a potentially lethal fight. His victim shot him down like the street thug he was behaving like.

That's what happened.
 
zimmerman was no where near his car he got out of car attacked martin and fucking shot him. Zimmerman had a good 30 kg on the skinny kid he was no way in danger of getting killed with a punch. But ay racism is alive and well in america and its the democrats.
 
zimmerman was no where near his car he got out of car attacked martin and fucking shot him. Zimmerman had a good 30 kg on the skinny kid he was no way in danger of getting killed with a punch. But ay racism is alive and well in america and its the democrats.

Yeah he was. Zimmerman was told to stop following trayvon Martin. The evidence says he stopped and started returning to his car.

But say he didn't. It wouldn't matter anyway.

Cause, someone following you talking on a cell phone? That doesn't justify potentially lethal force. You punch or kick someone in the head hard enough it can kill or permanently injure someone.

You do that, guess what, you're a fucking street punk. And your next victim might just fight back. And then you'll die like a street punk and the courts will rule against you.

The only thing that matters is who started the fight. Who started the use of violence. And it wasn't Zimmerman.

I make zero apologies for calling Trayvon Martin a street punk. Nobody has the right to punch someone to the ground and punch them repeatedly in the face because they think they're following them.

But if someone does that to you cause that's what they think? Then you have a right to defend yourself. If you have a gun, you're right to shoot em.
 
Yikes! You should read about what happened to the Indians in America. They don’t teach about that horrible genocide that Made American Great. Look up The Trail of Tears for more information.
yeah i seen that aswell another example of a indgieous group of people getting fucked over by the same white people. Its why native americans always have the strong support of maori and Pacifica we all in it together trying to get rights for the land and the people and bring justice to these evil fuckers and their offspring who still are racist.
 
And their offspring? So what? The children are guilty of the sins of their parents for the crime of being their children? That what you saying?
 
Guys would it be too much to ask to post in the appropriate threads? Jess? This threads not even a day old and it's already derailed.
 
Perhaps we should just close it. They don't wanna talk about trump, we don't wanna talk about trump.

We didn't have an Obama thread after he left office did we? (legit question I don't remember).

Since this thread was largely as a courtesy and an effort to not be biased, and it's not wanted, why have it?
 
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We don't need to close this thread, it's fine, let's just steer back to the topic. Obviously people are going to want to talk about Trump still, he seems unlikely to disappear. Though maybe he'll be so embarrassed that he won't want to be seen or heard for a while.

Maori have slowly been getting their land back here and payouts. I want to see the same for aboriginal. The fact mining companies still just contiune to blow up ancient aboriginal caves and burial sites on stolen lands is extremely fucked up. You lefties showed your true colors i already made up my mind about you.

Don't confuse an entire swath of people ("lefties") with an argument you're having with one person, who actually isn't even very left at all actually. You're demonizing like half the people in the world right now by saying that lefties want to blow up Aboriginal burial sites and shit like that.
 
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