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The 2018 Trump Presidency thread

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Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels) is not a prostitute.
This is what puzzles me. Prostitution is illegal, but if you put a camera in front of them it's fine.
She's being paid to have sex. It might not be her official title..
 
it's a bit like saying you're a "spammer" because everything you post tries to spin trump's disastrous presidency as something positive.
we ban spammers on sight.

of course, your comment is a great deal more judgemental and insulting. :\
 
There's also the false narrative that Trump paid for sex. He didn't in this case, at least.

He had at least two women (keep talking Rudy!) paid on his behalf to not talk about the sex he was having (right after his current wife gave birth) when he became the Republican candidate.

Additionally, there seems to be a misunderstanding about campaign finance laws. It's not legal for other people to go around paying to hide your dirt and then you pay them back.

Particularly when, like the incompetent lawyer he is, Cohen's communications regarding at least one payoff came from the Trump Organization. Oops.

Trump And Campaign Finance Law: The Fundamentals Still Apply
 
i find it interesting at the guffaws from trump supporters that their man is being pursued on this alleged breach of the law - as if, y'know, we all actually know that the guy has far greater criminality hanging over him.
 
This is what puzzles me. Prostitution is illegal, but if you put a camera in front of them it's fine.
She's being paid to have sex. It might not be her official title..

I agree, she is a prostitute. Except I don’t attach a negative connotation to word in my mind. I think prostitution should be legal and regulated, sex workers in the shadows face unreal hardship. Like with drugs, they need to be brought from the shadows and legitimized imo.
In this case she only got paid after the fact though, if I remember this case correctly.
 
i find it interesting at the guffaws from trump supporters that their man is being pursued on this alleged breach of the law - as if, y'know, we all actually know that the guy has far greater criminality hanging over him.

Well so why aren't they going after him for all the more serious charges? Why all this hooplah over the allegedly weakest charge they could find?
 
WaPo Outraged That Trump Lies About Everything That Doesn't Matter
https://www.sott.net/article/384985...rump-Lies-About-Everything-That-Doesnt-Matter

Everyday I am thankful, because everyday I have something to be outraged about. Thanks to that bastion of truthfulness and objectivity - the Washington Post - I now have 3,001 more things to be outraged about: President Trump, they claim, has made precisely 3,001 false or misleading claims so far in his presidency. That should last me until middle age. If he keeps it up, at this rate I should be set for life. And for that I'm super thankful. For without WaPo's studious fact-checking, I might otherwise neglect to be outraged that Donald Trump said not once, not twice, but a full twenty-nine times that the U.S. trade deficit with China is $500 billion, instead of $300 billion. Can anyone truly read that without the blood flowing to the face? Without one's delicate hands clenching into outraged fists?

What about the fact - the FACT, dagnabbit - that Trump had the audacity to claim that FDR served as president for 16 years, when he only served 12? Surely an involuntary guttural cry is beginning to escape the sanctified space of your larynx. No? Well what about the time he said Henry Ford invented the assembly line? Henry Ford! Everyone knows it was Ransom Eli Olds. Well, maybe not everyone knows that. But they should. And I'm ready to smash something breakable now that I know that Trump didn't know that too.

I was unaware that Donald Trump plays loose with the facts and tends to wildly exaggerate. That comes as a complete surprise to me. I had no idea he was a bombastic persuasion peddler. But in his 466 days since taking office, WaPo sez, he has made "false or misleading" claims an average of 6.5 times per day. WaPo even has an interactive graphic displaying the ebb and flow of his fibs.



The crew at WaPo have apparently spent the last 18 months hanging onto Trump's every word. There's obsessed, and then there's batsh*t crazy

Was Trump's tax cut really the "biggest"? Nope. Is the Russia probe a made-up controversy? Not according to WaPo. I'm glad to know that they know what Special Counsel Mueller himself does not. It's reassuring. I am also reassured that they have the ability to read minds. Because when Trump says Democrats don't really care about DACA, WaPo knows he's lying, and that Democrats really do care about DACA. Or maybe he can just read minds too. I don't know. Because unlike Trump and WaPo, alas, I cannot read minds.

But wait a second. Something is amiss. I am sure Trump has told more than 3001 lies. But when searching through the WaPo database, I can find no record of them. What about that time Trump said Syrian President Assad killed babies with chemical weapons - twice - when Assad most certainly did no such thing? That lie is nowhere to be found in WaPo's otherwise exceptional list. Even Defense Secretary Mattis admitted there was no evidence for those claims.

What about those times Trump called Iran the greatest sponsor of international terrorism, when that benefaction must surely go to U.S. ally Saudi Arabia? Or what about all those lies of omission? What about his refusal to tell the truth about Saudi Arabia or Israel? And what about all those times Trump tells the truth - or something closely approximating it? Like when he calls out regime-change, foreign interventionism, costly useless wars overseas, and anti-Russian hysteria? And what about all the lies peddled by the FBI, the Democrat and Republican establishments, and the very media of which WaPo is a member?

Is it possible WaPo is just nitpicking? Is it possible they are holding Trump's feet to the fire for a litany of things that don't matter very much at all, but opting to remain silent about the actual whoppers Trump tells, and for which he should truly be held accountable? And choosing to ignore or disagree with all the things he says that actually make sense? No, I must be becoming unreasonably outraged. WaPo would never do such a thing, and if they were to compile such a list for his predecessors and every other world leader, I am sure they would find them to be paragons of verbal virtue - uttering only pristine truth.

As they do for this Trump 'lie':
"He falsely claimed that Democrats colluded with the Russians, and the whole probe started with "a document that was paid for by the DNC [Democratic National Committee] and Hillary Clinton." But the DNC was a victim of Russian activities, as its emails were hacked and then released via WikiLeaks."​
Because the Democrats absolutely did not collude with the Russians - even when they did. And the DNC absolutely WAS a victim of "Russian activities" (whatever that means) - even when they weren't. It is clear that WaPo does not have an agenda here.

So in the spirit of lists, here is a list of things the WaPo list absolutely is NOT:
  • It is not a list of trivial exaggerations and misstatements of fact.
  • It is not a list that excludes all the actual lies that happen to matter.
  • It is not a list that takes actual truths and counters them by repeating mainstream lies in order to bolster the establishment's own agenda.
  • It is not biased in any way whatsoever.
 
Washington Post should hate Trump, Trump keeps bashing on Bezos, saying he has an illegitimate deal with the USPS (a silly thing to say, considering USPS approved of the deal).

Trump is literally insecure around people with more money.
 
I agree, she is a prostitute. Except I don’t attach a negative connotation to word in my mind. I think prostitution should be legal and regulated, sex workers in the shadows face unreal hardship. Like with drugs, they need to be brought from the shadows and legitimized imo.
In this case she only got paid after the fact though, if I remember this case correctly.
Here here.

What kind of pseudo-moralistic bullshit is it to whine about a sexy woman using her sexiness to make a living. That's like saying Ryan Gossling should be banned from films for being too handsome.
 
Well so why aren't they going after him for all the more serious charges? Why all this hooplah over the allegedly weakest charge they could find?

I think they are. You know - the russia investigation that you claim is rubbish.

Also, i hope he goes down for his sex crimes. All rapists and paedophiles should be behind bars.
 
Anyone see this week's SNL? Stormy Daniels in the opening bit.

"I know you don't believe in climate change, but a storm's a coming, baby!"

it was a little cringey...and kinda made her look opportunistic. Probably didn't hurt her legal case or whatever, but I wouldn't have done it personally.
 
I think they are. You know - the russia investigation that you claim is rubbish.
It's not just me, even average americans are now less approving of the tedious Mueller investigation.
For obvious reasons. Trump isn't even a target or subject so not sure what you're expecting him to be jailed over.

Also, i hope he goes down for his sex crimes. All rapists and paedophiles should be behind bars.
If you want everyone done for sex crimes then there wouldn't be much of Congress left.
 
trump pulls out of the iran deal, iran immediately started refining uranium again in response. who is going to make any deals with the US when we're not going to honor them? also, expect war soon.

Iran nuclear deal: Trump pulls US out in break with Europe allies
Behind Trump’s Termination of Iran Deal Is Risky Bet That U.S. Can ‘Break the Regime’

If you want everyone done for sex crimes then there wouldn't be much of Congress left.

you say that like its a bad thing.
 
I'm really hoping we go to war with Iran.

Saudis and Israel will back us.

We lost out on finishing off DPRK. Probably because Trump would rather put Iran back to the stone ages than get Un in an international court for crimes against humanity and war crimes.
 
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