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^what he said.

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New York Attorney-General Eric Schneiderman resigns after women allege physical abuse
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-...ric-schneiderman-resigns-abuse-allege/9739918

The biggest #MeToo betrayal yet: why the Eric Schneiderman allegations are so chilling
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/8/173307...w-york-attorney-general-metoo-me-too-movement

I notice that most of the mainstream news didn't mention that he is a DEMOCRAT
Republicans are guilty of this too but lately the ones who've gone down have been Dems and also outspoken Trump critics.
Schneidemann also halted an investigation into trafficking sex cult NXIVM last month.

Pretty remarkable: Washington Post, Axios, CNN, NBC News, LA Times, Politico NY -- not a single one of these news outlets mentioned Eric Schneiderman's party affiliation in their breaking news alerts.
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https://twitter.com/MattWolking/status/993846309663723521?s=04
 
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JGrimez said:
I notice that most of the mainstream news didn't mention that he is a DEMOCRAT
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really?

i think PRETTY MUCH ALL of the mainstream news mentioned that he is a DEMOCRAT. e.g.

cnn said:
Schneiderman's stunning resignation ends what had been a promising prospective career in Democratic politics.
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cnn said:
Schneiderman's swift resignation, which came just hours after The New Yorker published its report, is a shocking fall from grace for a once rising star in Democratic politics.
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the washington post said:
The investigation caps a remarkably swift fall for Schneiderman, a high-profile Democrat...
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alasdair
 
Captain.Heroin said:
You can't shame me, I'm not a Republican. I don't vote for the war machine politicians.
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Dunno if you voted for Obama but he bombed more countries than Bush.
Democrats + Republicans are both whores to the military-industrial complex.
Trump doesn't profit from military or defense contracts, and it's not in his best interests to keep the US in perpetual war.
 
JGrimez said:
Dunno if you voted for Obama but he bombed more countries than Bush.
Democrats + Republicans are both whores to the military-industrial complex.
Trump doesn't profit from military or defense contracts, and it's not in his best interests to keep the US in perpetual war.
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abstained from the 2008 election and it felt awful watching Obama do "yes we can!" live on TV.

in 2012 I voted Libertarian.

I know there's a few different weird varieties of Libertarians. I'm the kind that wants open borders, recreational drugs legalized, I'm alright with the US' involvement in the world militarily (but I am alright with isolationism). Civil rights/freedoms are generally more important than economic freedoms. I want to see income tax, minimum wage go away.
 
alasdairm said:
really?

i think PRETTY MUCH ALL of the mainstream news mentioned that he is a DEMOCRAT. e.g.
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Pretty remarkable: Washington Post, Axios, CNN, NBC News, LA Times, Politico NY -- not a single one of these news outlets mentioned Eric Schneiderman's party affiliation in their breaking news alerts.
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Sep 11, 2013:

Donald Trump said:
Weiner is gone, Spitzer is gone - next will be lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman. Is he a crook? Wait and see, worse than Spitzer or Weiner
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JGrimez said:
This is what puzzles me. Prostitution is illegal, but if you put a camera in front of them it's fine.
She's being paid to have sex. It might not be her official title..
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Actually I agree, I think it's really weird that prostitution is illegal but if you do it on camera it's fine. But it's because I think it's weird that prostitution is illegal in the first place. In my mind, calling her a prostitute shouldn't be an insult. If a woman wants to sell her body for sex, that's her prerogative, and if two consenting adults want to have a payment in exchange for sex, that's their prerogative too. There are lots of problems with prostitution in practice in America but, like many illegal activities, the harm comes from its definition as illegal rather than legal.

The reason it was morally wrong for Trump to participate isn't that it's prostitution (or that it's not). It's that he was doing it while his pregnant wife was having their son, behind her back. And also that he used campaign funds to pay for hush money, if indeed he did do that.
 
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What makes it especially insane is that the proof that prostitution happened (that it's on film) is also exactly what makes it apparently OK.

But this isn't exactly uncommon. These kinds of legal insanities.

I don't really give a shit if you call a porn star a prostitute because I really don't see a difference either, but using either term as a moral judgement however is bullshit.
 
Xorkoth said:
The reason it was morally wrong for Trump to participate isn't that it's prostitution (or that it's not). It's that he was doing it while his pregnant wife was having their son, behind her back. And also that he used campaign funds to pay for hush money, if indeed he did do that.
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and then lied about not knowing about the payment...

alasdair
 
Droppersneck said:
The silence from the ACLU about attorney-client privilege and civil liberties being violated is deafening!
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Perhaps that's because privilege was not violated. The docket for that search-warrant application (SDNY, case 1:18-MJ-03161, Judge Kimba M. Wood presiding) is 50 entries long and almost every aspect of that search was litigated to death by multiple parties. The amount of judicial oversight was exceptional and no stone was left unturned, which is exactly what you'd expect in an ultra high-profile case like this.

And Cohen--as well as several intervenors, including the Trump Organization and Donald J. Trump himself--even had the opportunity to litigate the exact procedure which would be used to ensure privilege was preserved. The Judge heard arguments from all the parties and then developed an elaborate scheme involving "filter teams" tasked with reviewing all the seized documents for privileged information before anything even gets handed over to the investigators, ensuring that the investigators would never have access to any privileged information in the first place.

But there I go with those pesky facts again...
 
Roger&Me said:
Perhaps that's because privilege was not violated. The docket for that search-warrant application (SDNY, case 1:18-MJ-03161, Judge Kimba M. Wood presiding) is 50 entries long and almost every aspect of that search was litigated to death by multiple parties. The amount of judicial oversight was exceptional and no stone was left unturned, which is exactly what you'd expect in an ultra high-profile case like this.

And Cohen--as well as several intervenors, including the Trump Organization and Donald J. Trump himself--even had the opportunity to litigate the exact procedure which would be used to ensure privilege was preserved. The Judge heard arguments from all the parties and then developed an elaborate scheme involving "filter teams" tasked with reviewing all the seized documents for privileged information before anything even gets handed over to the investigators, ensuring that the investigators would never have access to any privileged information in the first place.

But there I go with those pesky facts again...
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They raided the office of the sitting presidents attorney bc he alledgedly paid a prostitute in 2005. I have no doubt they dotted all their i?s, the swamp runs deep. The ninth circus court does everything procedurally correct when they try to obstruct the president, and it?s put on the Supreme Court to correct things. This just shows how ridiculous muellers little fishing expedition has become. Sad
 
Droppersneck said:
The ninth circus court does everything procedurally correct when they try to obstruct the president, and it?s put on the Supreme Court to correct things.
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The courts are supposed to obstruct the president if they determine that he's acting outside of the law, that's their job. You see, we have three co-equal branches of government in this country and the president only has power over one of them. Even a single federal district court judge is co-equal to the president when ruling on the constitutionality of the president's actions, and only the higher courts have the power to overrule the district court's judgment. And the Supreme Court always has the final say, whether the president agrees with it or not.

The president is only one cog in a much larger constitutional machine, and he's not even the most powerful one. I know you wish you lived in a country where you could bow down to a supreme leader and you wouldn't have to worry about the messy, complex business of self-governance. But, alas, you live in America, which is a constitutional republic governed by We The People, not an authoritarian mafia-state governed by Your Man Trump. He's just one of the many temporary employees who are currently serving at our pleasure.
 
Roger&Me said:
The courts are supposed to obstruct the president if they determine that he's acting outside of the law, that's their job. You see, we have three co-equal branches of government in this country and the president only has power over one of them. Even a single federal district court judge is co-equal to the president when ruling on the constitutionality of the president's actions, and only the higher courts have the power to overrule the district court's judgment. And the Supreme Court always has the final say, whether the president agrees with it or not.

The president is only one cog in a much larger constitutional machine, and he's not even the most powerful one. I know you wish you lived in a country where you could bow down to a supreme leader and you wouldn't have to worry about the messy, complex business of self-governance. But, alas, you live in America, which is a constitutional republic governed by We The People, not an authoritarian mafia-state governed by Your Man Trump. He's just one of the many temporary employees who are currently serving at our pleasure.
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Trump is god like imo, and doing all the things he said he would. I was referencing the courts doing political things like not allowing the unconstitutional executive order ‘DACA’ program to be ended or declare the travel ban from the six countries Obama’s regime determined to be of the highest threat, to be unconstitutional, when it’s clearly within a presidents power. Frankly I’m surprised the ninth circuit court didn’t rule that the Korean War must continue, bc the actions have been political and have zero to do with checks and balances, sadly. Jmo though
 
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