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The 2018 Trump Presidency thread

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Roger&Me said:
Rest easy, Heroine. Russia is barely even fit to be a rival of the State of Texas. :D Its economy is embarrassingly small and weak, and Russia will never stand as an equal with the United States--no matter what it ever does. It will always cower in subordination to the mighty United States of America, while we stand tall, arm-in-arm with our vast coalition of blood-brothers and sacred allies that spans the globe.

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Someone who isn't methamphetamine told me that the new Russia weapons (supersonic nuclear-powered nuclear missile which, if launched, could permanently irradiate the world and kill us all without ever having to detonate and would fly so close to the ground it would permanently deafen anyone with ear drums in a close enough vicinity, something Pynchon could have only dreamed about when writing Gravity's Rainbow) were basically a big hoax, and nothing to be worried about.

I still worry.
 
worry doesn't excuse cheering on slaughter of non-americans.
personally i don't give a fuck if americans worry about getting attacked by non-existent threats.

y'all need to stop killing people and invading third world nations. i mean, i see you pro-war posts, captain - and they make me feel sick.

despite what the propaganda machine tells you, nobody hates you for your "freedom".
america is hated for her obscene war machine.
 
I know this is kinda splitting hairs, but I just want to point out that permanently irradiating anything is actually impossible.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
If George W would have invaded Iran I'd have cheered for it then, and I'll cheer for Trump to do it now.

If he gets us into another war it might get him re-elected. Iran's regime is evil and it's only a matter of time and who's going to do it until it falls forever.

Guys, if you want to make Trump look like a bad guy, you literally have tens of thousands of better points to yell at him over. Some of us want the Axis of Evil to die. Got to love W's words.
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it's pretty easy to warmonger, when you are probably not the one to do the killing and dying. Irans government is a dictatorship, everyone knows that, but you realize that the ones who suffer the most from a war are mostly the civilians and the regular soldiers? I just cannot understand how anybody can call for war and be totally cold blooded to the atrocities and suffering and horror implicated in going to war. sure sometimes war might be necessary (WW2 for example, but in my opinion, if the leaders of the world had acted against facism beforehand, the war itself might have been avoidable), or unavoidable, but what do you think will be achieved by invading Iran? especially when it is evident that the Iraq war was such a huge failure and waste of lives and money?
 
JessFR said:
I know this is kinda splitting hairs, but I just want to point out that permanently irradiating anything is actually impossible.
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...until the nuclear material in the missile's engine it practically would be "permanent". That's what I was getting at. Poor choice of words.

The whole "it can't be shot down by anti-missile technology" is what I was most concerned with and was referencing by "permanent".

aihfl said:
Let's hope the pattern holds of him betting on the losing horse.
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^ this, ever since Moore I got the feeling Trump only wants to pick the losers least likely to win, just to see if he can make it a reality.

Bagseed said:
it is evident that the Iraq war was such a huge failure and waste of lives and money?
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I don't think the Kurds who otherwise would have been gassed to death thought our invasion was a waste of their lives. Hussein's mass executions were sickening and I don't understand how the whole world sits by and lets it happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack

vancity said:
ew...captain heroin is wack lol
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You all are ignorant to think we don't have the death machine ON and running at all times. Delusional, even.

What about the Clinton and Obama administrations continual unmanned bombing of Pakistan? Is that different because the media doesn't over-report on it and you can sleep well not knowing about what goes on there? :?

Get it straight: both R's and D's are blowing the budget and are all for the war machine.
 
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aihfl said:
As much as I dislike Trump, I can't even approve of such a crass display of public vandalism.
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I'm actually with Waters on this one. Civil disobedience and destruction of society are inevitable in a world without economic and civil freedoms. People like Trump, and the other national socialists should be stood up to. I'm thankful someone did this for everyone else who doesn't have a voice.
 
LISTEN TO THE COHEN TRUMP RECORDING LEAK

https://boingboing.net/2018/07/24/trump-cohen-audio-tape.html

BUSTED, TRUMP!

Got to love in the recording when he bellows out "GET ME A COKE"

Within an hour of the tape's broadcast, attorney Michael Avenatti said on MSNBC, when asked by host Lawrence O'Donnell what he hears, said: “I'm hearing two criminal co-conspirators conspire on making a payment and I'm hearing Michael Cohen be a sycophant for Trump.”

“There's no doubt that Michael Cohen has the goods on the president,” Avenatti said.
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Donald Trump could be ready to order a strike against Iran, Australian Government figures say

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Senior figures in the Turnbull Government have told the ABC they believe the United States is prepared to bomb Iran's nuclear capability, perhaps as early as next month, and that Australia is poised to help identify possible targets.

Key points:
Senior Government figures say Australian defence facilities would likely play a role in identifying possible targets
But another senior source, in security, emphasises there is a difference between providing intelligence and "active targeting"
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says he has no reason to believe the US is preparing for a confrontation
It comes amid intense sabre-rattling by US President Donald Trump and his Iranian counterpart Hassan Rouhani.

The ABC has been told secretive Australian defence facilities would likely play a role in identifying targets in Iran, as would British intelligence agencies.

But a senior security source emphasised there was a big difference between providing accurate intelligence and analysis on Iran's facilities and being part of a "kinetic" mission.

"Developing a picture is very different to actually participating in a strike," the source said.

"Providing intelligence and understanding as to what is happening on the ground so that the Government and allied governments are fully informed to make decisions is different to active targeting."

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said this morning he had no reason to believe the US was preparing for a military confrontation.

"President Trump has made his views very clear to the whole world, but this story … has not benefited from any consultation with me, the Foreign Minister, the Defence Minister or the Chief of the Defence Force," he said.

The top-secret Pine Gap joint defence facility in the Northern Territory is considered crucial among the so-called "Five Eyes" intelligence partners — the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand — for its role in directing American spy satellites.

Analysts from the little-known spy agency Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation would also be expected to play a part.

Canada would be unlikely to play a role in any military action in Iran, nor would the smallest Five Eyes security partner New Zealand, sources said.
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Fucking hell.
It is time we told america to get fucked. Australia has a proud history of fighting againts fascists
 
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