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The 2015/2016 NFL Thread v. yfw da jest win da superb owl

wow - the way Denver completely man-handled NE, I feel even better having the Steelers win that Denver game for 3 1/2 quarters... well, as much as you can feel good about a loss. not having Antonio Brown or our starting RB screwed us completely (thanks Bengals!) but onwards and upwards! looking forward to next season so much

but about this season - damn, Denver's Front 7 is so impressive. their CBs/Safeties are impressive, as well. if they can pull a defensive performance like that against Carolina - they have to be able to win that game. I'm a huge Ware/Von Miller fan - it would be so cash to see a defensive player win SB MVP, and this is the only real shot of that happening in the near future IMO

how much did one week make a difference for Peyton Manning? I can't believe he actually went out of the pocket and ran that bootleg for that one play! he had a lil spring in his step for sure, and his arm looked twice as good as it did against NE than it did against Pitt

as much as I feel meh on Manning, I will be rooting for him to win one last Lombardi. it would suck to have your half-ass brother retire with more rings than yourself ;)
 
I could see as much as an even 7
I think I'mna stay with O/Us
 
I actually think Carolina is going to win the Super Bowl

If Peyton was still Peyton of old id go Denver but the Panthers are just clicking on all cylinders right now just like Seattle was 2 years ago

And to think Kelvin Benjamin hasnt played a game this year

It was only a matter of time before Cam Newton became MVP. Their defense just happens to be really fucking good too

Two players stick out to me on Carolinas D besides Keuchly, Short the Dlineman, and Josh Norman

Short made the eagles o line look like a bunch of pussies and Norman has been the best CB this year.

And I know Denver has good CBs too but if cam runs for every 3rd down big fuckin do right?

I would like to see the Broncos win, but I
think the Panthers will win

Wasnt sure how to spell Kewan short's first name.
 
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2017 Super Bowl Odds Futures to Win Super Bowl LI
NFL Futures Odds For Winning Super Bowl 51 (LI)
NRG Stadium, Houston, TX, 2/5/2017

Super Bowl Money Odds (Payout Per $100 Bet.)
Arizona Cardinals +$1,500 (15 to 1)
Atlanta Falcons +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Baltimore Ravens +$4,000 (40 to 1)
Buffalo Bills +$4,000 (40 to 1)
Carolina Panthers +$1,000 (10 to 1)
Chicago Bears +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Cincinnati Bengals +$1,800 (18 to 1)
Cleveland Browns +$20,000 (200 to 1)
Dallas Cowboys +$2,000 (20 to 1)
Denver Broncos +$2,000 (20 to 1)
Detroit Lions +$5,000 (50 to 1)
Green Bay Packers +$1,200 (12 to 1)
Houston Texans +$4,000 (40 to 1)
Indianapolis Colts +$2,500 (25 to 1)
Jacksonville Jaguars +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Kansas City Chiefs +$2,500 (25 to 1)
Los Angeles Rams +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Miami Dolphins +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Minnesota Vikings +$2,500 (25 to 1)
New England Patriots +$1,000 (10 to 1)
New Orleans Saints +$5,000 (50 to 1)
New York Giants +$4,000 (40 to 1)
New York Jets +$4,000 (40 to 1)
Oakland Raiders +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Philadelphia Eagles +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Pittsburgh Steelers +$1,000 (10 to 1)
San Diego Chargers +$6,000 (60 to 1)
San Francisco 49ers +$7,500 (75 to 1)
Seattle Seahawks +$1,000 (10 to 1)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Tennessee Titans +$6,000 (60 to 1)
Washington Redskins +$5,000 (50 to 1)

http://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_futures_odds_super_bowl_li.shtml

edit: stealers 10-1 denver 20-1
 
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I think it's insane that the Panthers are favorites by almost a touchdown right now. I think a lot of people are about to lose a lot of money on Sunday.
 
I think the Broncos win and both teams fail to break the 20-25 point range. Over the past 30 Superbowls we've seen the most dominant defense in the league matched up against the most explosive offense in the league lots of times. Denver is the former and I don't even think I'd categorize Carolina as the latter. Close but not the best offense in the league this year.

In those matchups, defense almost always wins. Both Patriot v. Giants bowls, Pitt v. Arizona, Seattle v. Denver, Ravens v. Giants, Bills v. Giants, etc.

Actually fuck the Giants because they're in way too many of those examples. But that's probably because besides Ravens v. Giants in '01, they were the defensive powerhouse of each of those Superbowls. And of those examples, the only one they lost is that one when the Ravens had a better defense. It probably has something to do with how much easier(I'm guessing) it is to execute a shutdown defensive gameplan than it is to execute a blowout offensive gameplan when both sides have great players and everyone on both rosters is playing their absolute hearts out because it's the Superbowl.

Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos were basically impossible to stop when they met the Seahawks in the Bowl a few years ago. They broke almost every offensive and points record the NFL had that year. It was ridiculous. And then they got absolutely demolished by the Seahawks in the Superbowl. It was almost embarrassing. And that happened to one of the most veteran and respected QBs in the NFL. Now Manning is on the other side of the coin and his team's defense is their real strength. On the big stage, in the big show, I'd be really surprised if Cam Newton can somehow lead his young team to victory and not completely fall apart. Analysts can talk about the Panthers' offense all they want t build up hype leading to Sunday, but Carolina's offense is going to have a nightmare of a game imo.

In the 1991 AFC Championship game the Buffalo Bills beat the 12-4 then LA Raiders 51-3 during a time offenses didn't put up those kinds of points and the Bills were the heavy underdog, kind of like how Carolina crushed the Cardinals 2 weeks ago 49-15. 2 weeks later the Bills lost to the Giants 19-20 with the infamous missed Norwood kick. I expect Carolina's "potent offense" to suffer a similar fate. Defenses win Superbowls, and after what I saw Denver do to Tom Brady and the Patriots 2 weeks ago I'll be shocked if this SB doesn't go down in infamy for Cam Newton.
 
I'll cry even more of the reports are true that he contacted Bill Bellichick about playing for the Patriots. I'll fucking shoot myself if Tom Brady gets another Randy Moss.
 
alasdairm said:
^ what is your prediction?

i think the panthers win but fail to cover: 24-20 panthers.

alasdair
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I think I am in your ballpark only the slightest bit but also although I like the over, maybe 27-24
I am not ready to give up on denver though
I am thinking about putting a smallish amount on them on the money live, which currently stands at +195 (trending down)
and taking the over
another part of me wants to take a pass on betting on the superbowl
for NFL as as strictly recretional punter this year I am about $300 in the black though
so why not see wht it does Sunday though
I am going to be on the job so we will do something special for our "students" as we usually do
wings, soda, chips, all that stuff, everyone will chip in
watching sports is one of those times when we can just forget for a little while the lines that divide us
"patients/staff," "crazy/normal," it fades away, let's go, defense, get him get him get him, etc.in your ballpark although I like the over, maybe 27-24
I am not ready to give up on denver though. could see them eking it out more or less by the same score flipped
I am thinking about putting a smallish amount on them on the money live, which currently stands at +195 (trending down)
and taking the over
another part of me wants to take a pass on betting on the superbowl
for NFL as as strictly recretional punter this year I am about $300 in the black though
so why not see wht it does Sunday though
I am going to be on the job so we will do something special for our "students" as we usually do
wings, soda, chips, all that stuff, everyone will chip in
watching sports is one of those times when we can just forget for a little while the lines that divide us
"patients/staff," "crazy/normal," it fades away, let's go, defense, get him get him get him, etc.
those are some really cool moments]
 
I think the Panthers are going to destroy the Broncos. Peyton cant throw past 20 yards which means the Panthers weak safety play doesn't matter. They will put 8 men in the box and make Peyton beat them which wont happen. The Broncos D will play well for a half or so but will tire out as there offense sputters and turns the ball over a few times. My final prediction is 28-10 Panthers.
 
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