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Falcons are lucky to not have to deal with Chris Clemons this week, he's been in outstanding form all year. Think he sacked Rodgers 4 times when they played GB.


Shame to see two good players have torn acl's on that horrible field.

His pass rushing ability isnt what they will miss because his replacement is Bruce Irvin who i think is even better at pass rush than clemons. seahawks need to worry about irvins rush D tho.
 
Remember when Jay Cutler got called a pansy for leaving that playoff game against the Packers 2 years ago when he was injured... and now RG3 gets called selfish for staying in the game?

My respect level for Jay Cutler retroactively went up about 10 points. He did the right thing. RG3 tried to be Superman and cost his team the game. Also, I blame RG just as much as Shanahan. If you're in Shanahan's position and your best player is insisting he can still play, you leave him in, because if you take him out you're guaranteed to get crucified by the media and the fans. If you leave him in, it's a 50/50 shot: you either look like a genius if he plays well enough to win or you get crucified if you lose. That 50% chance of winning is better than the 100% chance of getting shit on if he took his guy out and Shanahan knew that so he rolled the dice. That's at least a little defensible. RG3 insisting he stays out there when he could barely walk was not.

lol Jay Cutler is and always will be a bitch. the only guy u could blame is Shanahan, not RG3
 
everything is daniel snyder's fault

can't wait for skins to go 2-14 next year, giving the rams the #1 pick after a playoff season
 
Shanahan should get all the blame, for the loss and Griffin's injury. If Stevie Wonder was the head coach and Tebow was the backup, I might have a little sympathy for him but he's not. It was 100% his call to make, it was painfully obvious that Griffin was hurt no matter what he was telling him.


And Cutler is one of the biggest tampons in the NFL.. 1 week in, 3 weeks out.
 
How can you not blame RG3? The guy obviously fought to stay in. Yeah it was Shanahan's call but if you have your best player fighting to stay in, you have to take the chance that he's right. Plus, if you pull out your best guy and he's arguing with you on the sidelines, your other players are gonna start to distrust you. I'm not saying it's all RG3's fault; it's both of their faults. But right now everyone's blaming the coach and not the player and RG needs to take some responsibility for his actions if he's gonna be the leader of a team.

Also, if you think RG3 should have come out of that game, then you can't call Cutler a tampon. That's just being consistent.

everything is daniel snyder's fault

can't wait for skins to go 2-14 next year, giving the rams the #1 pick after a playoff season

No way that's happening. Even if they don't get RG3 back til halfway through the season that division is a mess. It's wide open for the Redskins to take it.
 
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cant believe the cowboys fired Rex Ryan, they're defense was torn to shit by injuries

Dont blame youself Jerry and step down as General Manager n give someone who knows what they're doing controll. muther fucker is so self absorbed, why cant he just write the checks like most owners. N i doubt it'll be any better when he croaks (which at this point is what im waiting on, i know sounds terrible but it is what it is)

Dont fire the Mediocre Head Coach, I go back n forth on Jason Garret, i dont necessarily think he is the one to blame but i think it makes more sense to fire him then rex ryan

Dont fire the quarterback who despite having good qualities consistently proves himself to be mediocre, he doesnt suck but he isnt great, he can make nice miracle plays happen and he can shoot himself and his team in the foot, get some goddamn stability

i know no one in this threads cares about the cowboys or wants to talk about em during playoff time but god damn they never cease to dissapoint
 
How can you not blame RG3? The guy obviously fought to stay in. Yeah it was Shanahan's call but if you have your best player fighting to stay in, you have to take the chance that he's right. Plus, if you pull out your best guy and he's arguing with you on the sidelines, your other players are gonna start to distrust you. I'm not saying it's all RG3's fault; it's both of their faults. But right now everyone's blaming the coach and not the player and RG needs to take some responsibility for his actions if he's gonna be the leader of a team.

Since when does a 22 yr old rookie get to dictate? The extent of him fighting to stay in the game was, Shanahan asked him "Are you OK" and he answered "I'm fine". A good coach would've taken the decision out of Griffin's hands considering his major asset, his ability to run from the pocket, has completely broken down. Shanahan got away with it v Dallas because Dallas had half a defense and Romo kept throwing picks. Griffin was injured starting this game. The slightest sign of a breakdown and Cousins should've been put in.

Coach: "Look Bob we know you've got a big heart, the type of character you are and you want to carry on playing for the team and we respect that, but you've been resembling Hopalong Cassidy since the 2nd TD, we're putting Kirk in. Adrian Peterson tore his MCL and ACL on this shitbox of a field last year, Chris Clemons did his 5 mins ago"

Bob G: "But, i'm good to go, I can pl..."

Coach: "Shut your fucking face and go cry into your socks Griffin you're done. End of story."


I get what you're saying but I don't blame a player for not wanting to come out of the game ESPECIALLY a team captain. Any strong minded, self respecting pro football player should want to play every snap of an important game whether you're hurt or not.

I really don't care enough about the Redskins to keep talking about this. I picked Seattle to win the game and I'm glad they did. What irritates me most is that, it's the 2nd time in 3 years that Griffin's had reconstructive ACL surgery on the same knee and the Redskins were willing to jeopardise his career for at most one more playoff game.
 
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what suburu said.

RG is young, dumb and full of cum. It's the coaches responsibility to say enough's enough. They probably would've won that game had they taken him out.
 
cant believe the cowboys fired Rex Ryan, they're defense was torn to shit by injuries

Dont blame youself Jerry and step down as General Manager n give someone who knows what they're doing controll. muther fucker is so self absorbed, why cant he just write the checks like most owners. N i doubt it'll be any better when he croaks (which at this point is what im waiting on, i know sounds terrible but it is what it is)

Dont fire the Mediocre Head Coach, I go back n forth on Jason Garret, i dont necessarily think he is the one to blame but i think it makes more sense to fire him then rex ryan

Dont fire the quarterback who despite having good qualities consistently proves himself to be mediocre, he doesnt suck but he isnt great, he can make nice miracle plays happen and he can shoot himself and his team in the foot, get some goddamn stability

i know no one in this threads cares about the cowboys or wants to talk about em during playoff time but god damn they never cease to dissapoint

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I get what you're saying but I don't blame a player for not wanting to come out of the game ESPECIALLY a team captain. Any strong minded, self respecting pro football player should want to play every snap of an important game whether you're hurt or not.

I guess we just see differently. I think you can want to be in the game but if you're injured you should be able to admit it and come out. To me, that takes more balls than staying in and losing the game for your team.
 
i'll be watching the Saturday games but i think we're entertaining Sunday night so no Houston v New England. not that i care much anyway, is there any chance that Houston beats the Pats? Not much.
 
brian shotenhiemer is set to interview for the jags head coaching job

he's currently the rams OC

great, so if he gets the gig, bradford will have to learn a 4th different offense in his 4th year

he's going to be a never-ending project that will probably never reach his full potential

also, the bleacher report named the 2000 rams WR corp the best all time, i have to agree :)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/756885-the-50-best-receiving-corps-in-nfl-history/page/51
 
brian shotenhiemer is set to interview for the jags head coaching job

he's currently the rams OC

great, so if he gets the gig, bradford will have to learn a 4th different offense in his 4th year

he's going to be a never-ending project that will probably never reach his full potential

also, the bleacher report named the 2000 rams WR corp the best all time, i have to agree :)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/756885-the-50-best-receiving-corps-in-nfl-history/page/51

At least he is already showing his potential unlike Alex Smith (same circumstances early on) who has mastered the under 10 yd completion.







































Awaits Care's Alex Smith apologies........3.......2.....1...
 
also, the bleacher report named the 2000 rams WR corp the best all time, i have to agree :)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/756885-the-50-best-receiving-corps-in-nfl-history/page/51
i call bullshit. absolutely no mention of last year's steelers (a.k.a. the #1 wr corp in football).

:)
Here is your greatest receiving corps in NFL history. Holt, Bruce, Hakim and Proehl combined to create an unstoppable force that has never been matched.
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I'm not sure if we will ever see the type of production that this receiving corp had again.
in 2007, randy moss caught 23 tds himself - the same number as these 4 guys combined.

alasdair
 
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At least he is already showing his potential unlike Alex Smith (same circumstances early on) who has mastered the under 10 yd completion.

Awaits Care's Alex Smith apologies........3.......2.....1...

Don't talk bad about Alex Smith. He could be on the Cardinals next year!

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in 2007, randy moss caught 23 tds himself - the same number as these 4 guys combined.

alasdair

I agree. People get those rose tinted glasses and can't look at things objectively. 99-01 Rams offense was beastly but I dunno how you could say that they're better than the recent Pats teams. Just last year Hernandez, Gronkowski and Welker had better numbers than Bruce, Holt and Hakim did in 2000.
 
Rams team also had a guy by the name of Marshall Faulk who was a slightly big part of The Greatest Show on Turf, and could explain some of the numbers discrepancies.
 
^exactly

faulk had like 100+ receptions in '99 and '00

it's not all about statistics

winning games, blocking, and other 'little things'
 
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