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THC and Morphine plant???

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It seems like it would be similar to trying to breed a moose with a badger. It could be possible with some genetic splicing or something but there is another problem. You don't get high from smoking the flowers of poppy plats. You would have to find a way to make a plant with a readily smokable flower that would not only release THC upon combustion but also Morphine or Codeine. You can turn poppies into smokable opium but that takes an extraction method, with weed you essentially pick the flower, dry it, and smoke it.
 
swilow said:
Cross breeding needs to be one amogst similar plant familes....Hops, for example, can apparently be grafted onto cannabis but the trichome structure and THC-glands don't make the transfer. To cross breed plants you need them to have the same amount of chromosones. Cannabis and hops are diploids in that they share this trait, but they can't share the reporudctive technique of cannabis plants. Most grafted hops, from what I've read, are both sterile and inactive in regards to THC.
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Plants can cross breed to great extent, and it is possible to have inter-familiar hybrids (Protoplast fusion). Verbena (family: verbenaceae) and Phlox (family: polemoniaceae) have been cross-breed this way.
 
I will attempt this asap

mrjackjones said:
I wonder if one took a fentanyl patch and wrapped it around a branch of a plant that was clost to harvest (a nice sativa, of course), if that would work.
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I have 1 neighbor that has 100mcg phen patches and another that is like 2 weeks untill harvest. I'll spring the idea today and we'll see where it takes us!!!

i know you can get the poppy flower to grow onto a bud plant, but what if you were to make the thc be produced in the poppy plant? I don't know ANYTHING about plants, but opium containing THC? I know enough about *durgs* to know that this would RAWK!!!!!
 
MistaJeff said:
You can turn poppies into smokable opium but that takes an extraction method, with weed you essentially pick the flower, dry it, and smoke it.
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^^well all you have to do (assuming you have a living poppy plant) is making small cuts in the poppy after the pedals fall off and let the sap seep out (that sap, to my understanding, is the opium right there)
 
ActinUhFool420 said:
I placed a thread on this earlier and i didnt get many views cuz the title wasnt as interesting or as specific to the thread :p

Hey everyone. i was browsing the canibus forum on BL and came across several threads talkin about pain relief and marijuana...I don't know everything on botany,...but i been working with plants for about 8 years...so i i kno a lil more than basic bontany...

But is it possible to cross a Marijuana strain wit an Opium Poppy? To have a single plant create morphine and THC in a smokable bud? Or is it like trying to cross bread 2 totally different species and there is NO WAY something like this can be achieved? Im sure real scientists or botanists could achieve a marijuana plant that produces a bud containing THC and Morphine. I tried doin some reasearch online to see if anything like this was ever attempted...but no luck. maybe someone can do a better job than i did, and see if they can find scientific facts if this was tried with success or failure.

=D Thanx to anyone that can be of assistance...

*was told on the last post maybe this should be in the Advance Drug Discussion Forum...so Mods plz feel free to *bump* if necessary. :)
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You have the genus of Cannabis broken down into the species of cannabis sativa, indica, and ruderalis.

For the opium poppy your looking at the genus Papaver, and of the hundred plus species of this genera of poppy you have papaver somniferum, which is the opium poppy.

you get different species of the game genera to cross breed in many cases, like the indica/sativa hybrids. But your talking 2 completely different genus of plants....

Short of isolating the genetic instructions that make the poppy create narcotic alkaloids and then finding a way to geneticly insert those genes into the correct area of the genome of the marijauna plant or really vise versa with making a poppy produce THC whichever would theoretically be easier without making the plant die from bad genetics its pretty much impossible for the average home botanist....

Having worked with plants for 8 years i would expect you would know this.... Considering im working with basic knowlege of biology taken from first year college classes...
 
me0307 said:
OMG WHAT IF YOU CROSSED AN OAK TREE WITH A CANNABIS PLANT?!?!

YOUD HAVE SOME BIG ASS BUDS THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO GROW FOR A LIFETIME!!! 8o8o

completely kidding.

not possible. this thread made me laugh. but if you do accomplish it - damn..hit me up
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Oak tree? Sequoia,bamboo,and Cannabis. Sequoia for size, bamboo for speed(so you don't have to wait a few hundred years for your giant tree plant to grow.) ;)
 
You have the genus of Cannabis broken down into the species of cannabis sativa, indica, and ruderalis.
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The genus Cannabis contains one species, Sativa. The fact that indica and sativa can breed demonstrates that they are not seperate species. But yeah, short of some pretty advanced genetic engineering, I don't think this project is going to take off.
 
Yerg said:
The genus Cannabis contains one species, Sativa. The fact that indica and sativa can breed demonstrates that they are not seperate species. But yeah, short of some pretty advanced genetic engineering, I don't think this project is going to take off.
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to quote wikipedia

Cannabis (Cán-na-bis) is a genus of flowering plants that includes three putative species, Cannabis sativa L.,[1] Cannabis indica Lam.,[1] and Cannabis ruderalis
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inb4 wikipedia is the devil/wrong......

things do not always have to be the same species to interbreed, hybrids can be created.... They just have to be kind of close... You breed a male donkey with a female horse and you get a mule. 2 different species creating a hybrid.... Hell these two species of animals don't even have the same number of chromosomes. a mule is not a great example but just because things are different species does not mean they can't produce offspring.
 
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Horses and donkeys produce sterile offspring. As do lions and tigers and any other two species that can produce a hybrid. If two "species" are closely related enough to still produce fertile offspring, they are not separate species.
 
it is "possible", opium poppies have a woody stem about 2 inches above the soil, just below the leaves, and poppies have alkaloids throughout the entire plant. But primarily focused in the reproductive organs of the plant. Marijuana buds are the female reproductive organs of the cannabis. cut the cannabis low to the soil a week or so before you harvest, then cut your poppies down right below the leaves ( save the flowers or pods : ) and graph your cannabis to your papaverr somniferum..now, the graph WONT take, BUT you get a day or two where the cannabis will suck up all the alkaloids and they will naturally build up int the reproductive organs of the cannabis. the longer you can keep the graft from rejecting, the
 
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