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Thank god they finally buried David Hookes

Stuart who? I'm sorry, I forgot who he was when the next "national hero" stepped into the spotlight.
 
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rofl!

Jonah - Bluelight is mass media? I didn't realise. Hi mum! Hi Dad!

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what raverchik said.
Sure, media hype is a legitimate topic and many people have tried to discuss it earnestly here but some attitudes here are nothing short of disgusting. To speak ill of the dead in order to make a point shows an utter lack of respect and obviously no understanding of the loss and anguish that senseless death brings.
 
new_piller said:
Shnouzerpuff:
r u implying david hookes did something to provoke the bouncer??? coz thats wat its seems like!!!
even if he did, the bouncer is suppose to be looking after the pub & its patrons, NOT ASSAULTING PATRONS 30metres away from the entry to the pub!!!

Yeah I am.

OK first thing *sigh* I am not in any way on the bouncer's side here. I agree that power-mad bouncer's are a blight on any club/pub scene and no one likes a beefcake with a penchant for hitting things.

But I still find it hard to believe that a bouncer ran 30metres to a random person and killed them for no reason whatsoever.

Yet all the media seems to be saying is David Hookes cricket stats and showing pictures of the bouncer covering his face in front of the camera. I just would like to see a clear picture of the events, but in today's media that seems a downright impossible ask.
 
Just a quick note to all of you who are bagging the announcement of Steve Waugh as Australian of the year: I guess you've lost track (or you never knew) about his extraordinary work with the poor in India. In a country where sporting celebrity carries even more weight than it does here, Steve has been using his to benefit those who live in grinding poverty the likes of which we will never experience.

In a time when Australians are being xenophobic and selfish in the extreme, Steve Waugh has used his considerable power to do something the average border-protectin', Hun-readin' Australian would never even consider.

If anything, I'm surprised he got the award in a time when the government is encouraging us to ignore the plight of anyone outside the country in a shitty situation.
 
Originally posted by Shnouzerpuff

OK first thing *sigh* I am not in any way on the bouncer's side here. I agree that power-mad bouncer's are a blight on any club/pub scene and no one likes a beefcake with a penchant for hitting things.

But I still find it hard to believe that a bouncer ran 30metres to a random person and killed them for no reason whatsoever.


Yeah I agree. Plus David Hookes was known for having a smart mouth and a supposedly 'quick wit'. I'm not justifying the bouncers actions either, but I'd put my life savings on the fact that Mr Hookes provoked the bouncer in some way.

I guess people don't want to highlight that fact because no-one likes to speak ill of the dead.
 
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I never said anything about bluelight being mass media. It just seems suprising that you are still talking about somthing you are so sick of hearing about, Im tippen you have too much time on your hands.
 
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I guess people don't want to highlight that fact because no-one likes to speak ill of the dead
(this is in response to all people who are saying that hookes provoked the bouncer)

People don't want to highlight that "fact" because it's not a fact at all, it's an assumption. Another assumption is that this hot-head bouncer probably only took nothing more than a simple look in his direction to be provoked. Hookes is known to be a smart arse, and bouncers are known to fly out of control at the drop of a hat. Who's more wrong?

The fact is, that he was punched, and then died when he hit the ground. Not many people know the exact circumstances around how it happened, but unless it comes out that hookes threw the first punch, then I think the response to any provocation with physical violence by the bouncer was way out of line. Even if Hookes made a racist comment or *gasp* made a comment about his mum, I doubt he needed to be hit "to teach him a lesson". This bouncer should have known what his trained punch was capable of (he's an amateur boxer incidentally), and in a role where he should be keeping the peace he should be avoiding violence. Especially if it was merely verbal.

And if you want to make assumptions, I'd say a known smartarse like Hookes is more likely to use words than to throw a punch at an obviously physically stronger bouncer. Another assumption would be that even if Hookes did take a swing at him, it wouldn't have been totally out of the blue - it would have started verbally and the bouncer would have had plenty of opportunities to back off and let the situation diffuse.

If you want to play the blame game, I'd be blaming the person who was employed in a role designed to keep the peace and protect the public who more than likely overstepped their boundaries.
 
Originally posted by Pleonastic


People don't want to highlight that "fact" because it's not a fact at all, it's an assumption. Another assumption is that this hot-head bouncer probably only took nothing more than a simple look in his direction to be provoked. Hookes is known to be a smart arse, and bouncers are known to fly out of control at the drop of a hat.

I agree. And I don't see anyone justifying the bouncers actions at all. The bouncer was in the wrong [as you said it is his duty to keep the peace] however what are the chances of a bouncer hitting someone for no reason?

I don't think anyone is playing the 'blame game' Pleo. We're just taking other possible aspects of the situation into account because they hadn't been mentioned before.
 
hahahah...fire up people! I posted the original post about the Death of David Hookes with the intention of stirring up some shit. Looks like I suceeded. I hardly consider this thread to be perpetuating the media hype but whatever floats your boat.

Being a smart mouth does not mean you deserve to be punched in the face btw.
 
onetwothreefour said:
for sure, i realise that the guy wasn't a fucking scientist or anything, but this doesn't deem his life worthless - tell me what you've done that makes your life any more *worthwhile* than his?).

That is exactly my point. If I died I don't expect (nor would want) anyone besides my immediate family and friends to care.

I didn't say his life was worthless, I just don't think it was exactly worthful.

This country and the world I guess seems to have some mass problem with worshipping whatever is force fed us.
 
beech said:
low level literacy.

Lostpunk - A few things chief:
1. Hookesy didn't run up and down a concrete strip. Cricket pitches that any decent level of cricket is played on are made of grass.

Thank you :)

I realise now. I was such a fool. My life is so much more meaningful now that I know decent cricket pitches are made of grass. :)
 
however what are the chances of a bouncer hitting someone for no reason?
My point wasn't that it didn't happen, my point was that it probably did happen but the end result from the bouncer wasn't justified. Bouncers don't hit people for "no" reason, but my assumption was that he may have hit him for an "insignificant" reason, when he should have been mature enough (in his position of responsibility) to let a drunk smart arse have his silly comment and go about his night.

I actually do think there's a high chance that Hookes said something dumb to the bouncer, but as nezo said that doesn't deserve a punch in the face. So in a way we agree, but I was just taking the scenario a step further. :)

Edit: oh, and my comment about playing the blame game might have been taken the wrong way. I meant "you" in the sense of if "anyone wants to play the blame game" - it wasn't directed at any exact comment or person in this thread. :)
 
I think all you people who disagree with Steve Waugh recieving the Australian of the Year award should be given a heads up...


1. He has been an excellent ambassador for Australia, regardless of whether he represented the country for sport or not. He has always been extremely professional and taken his post as Australian cricket captain (which many view to be the second highest position in the nation to the PM) with great seriousness.
2. As Captain, he changed the way that the national game was played around the world by speeding it up dramatically, made Australia the best team in the world and himself contributed in an extrodinary manner.
3. He has been heavily involved in charitable activities in and outside Australia (including setting up a leper hospital for young girls in India and supporting the entire facility there). He is idolised and respected the world over for the way these reasons.
4. He was selected from the list of those nominated as State person of the year (eg.- Tasmanian of the Year, NSW of Year etc.) So he was up against very few people in the selection of this award. Steve Irwin was up there too as QLD of the Year- how many would of you have liked to have seen him win?
5. The other nominations were of people who nobody knows - that is, they did not represent the Spirit of Australia and the values we hold - someone we can all look up to be. Steve Waugh did this very much so and as such is a fantastic choice.

For all those who disagree with the choice - name a better candidate please?
 
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Look, Tugga is one of my heros too..... but he shouldnt have got Aussie of the year.

Obvioulsy it should have gone to Hirdy,Lloydy or Sheeds.

Long live Hooksey....for he and Vivian Issac taught me from an early age to play in the L and not the V.....flicking, flicking.:)
 
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