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Thank god they finally buried David Hookes

nezo

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I was getting heaps sick of the 'Loss of a nation's hero' bullshit. He was a just a cricketer for fucks sake. Sure, his death was a bit of a tragedy but the way the media have carried on and on about 'David Hookes the cricketer' or 'David Hookes the family man' or 'David Hookes the media personality' was making me sick to the stomach. He was a sporting personality and a second rate one at best. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the man - gawd knows I've heard about his multiple 'achievements' over the last week and a bit, but the media storm has been ridiculous. Thank god this issue is now dead and buried (which the exception of the trial - none of which I will take any interest in).

Rest in Peace David Hookes.

Eat my dick media hype.
 
Though it was sad, im with you there Nezo. I heard they are talking about another memorial in melbourne or something... thank god i live in Syd.

The trial of this guy will be interesting. Will be good to know what set the bouncer into this rage. Cricketers are the biggest smartasses and obviously I can use another stereotype and say all bouncers are meatheads... put both together and you get some dude ive never heard of getting punched in the back of the head down the road from a pub.
 
Yea I had never heard of him before this time. Also, i was just wondering if this had any effect on Steve Waugh being named Australian of the year!

It's damn embarrassing that we name a sports celebrity as Australian of the year. I would have preffered it go to someone that really deserves it, like someone who have sacrificed their lives to do aid work overseas in refugee camps or to a person that has made great scientific achievements in the past year.
 
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I thought it was most definately over hyped.

Never heard of the guy before this.

I would love to hear exactly what he did before getting punched in the head. The media is very vague on those details focusing more on -as you said- The Family Man etc etc.

Fair enough he didnt deserve to die, but hearing the events leading up to the head-cracking would be nice
 
Groovstar said:
Also, i was just wondering if this had any effect on Mark Waugh being named Australian of the year!

I'm surprised they didnt name David Hookes as Australian Of The Year.


It *is* bad that he died, but I completly agree, it was VERY overhyped. I never knew who David Hookes was until he was dead, and now I've still got no real idea.



I bet that bouncer feels about this . big right now. Somehow, I dont think he is going to achieve Big Brother Housemate celebrity status now.
 
groovestar:
for a start its steve waugh.
and david's death had nothing to do with steve waugh getting it!!!
thirdly. lleyton hewitt & pat rafter have both received the award in the past.... so steve isnt the first, and im sure he wont be the last!!!
also, considering we live in a sporting mad country, have u ever thought, that more often than not, sports people would be the people looked upon the most???

Shnouzerpuff:
r u implying david hookes did something to provoke the bouncer??? coz thats wat its seems like!!!
even if he did, the bouncer is suppose to be looking after the pub & its patrons, NOT ASSAULTING PATRONS 30metres away from the entry to the pub!!!

Jimity:
if u still have no real idea on who he is, your not a very smart person, it would take 2 minutes out of ur day, to read one of the many articles about him, and u'll find out who he is!!!
 
Hmm. Sport is way over done in this country. Steve Waugh shouldn't have got Aussie of the Year - I mean when interviewed (over the years) he barely says anything; he's known for being a man of few words.

All he does is play cricket. Get someone whose been helping Australia, like that guy who has been doing 'clean up Australia'. Now he was a good choice.

As for Hooksey, he sounds like a bit of a pratt anyway. Apparently, he would often be at parties, which he invited people to mind you, say he was going to the toilet and never return. Charming fellow.
 
^^^I dont really want to know much about David Hookes. Yeah, its bad hes gone, but I'm not a huge fan of cricket, so I dont really want to spend two minutes finding out who he is.
 
Sorry, don't agree... David Hookes cricket stats may not have been the best in the world, but he gave back to the game that he loved so much.

I hope you don't say the same thing when one of your close relatives or friends dies... "yeah glad they finally buried him/her"

thats a bit cold....
 
Does anyone else think its wierd having funerals on TV?? I mean even for celebraties..
I saw a couple of mins of footage on the news and I couldn't help but think those poor people who actually knew the guy properly were trying to greave with TV cameras in their faces.. I figured it was the sort of thing that you do in private or with close friends.. I know he had thousands of fans, me being one of them, but the way I see it I only knew the public persona of the guy which I feel is completly different to actually knowing the guy and don't really feel I would go to his funeral myself..
anyone see what I'm getting at??
 
Back in 98, a really close friend of mine was killed on his way to work. He was a copper and had a state funeral. It was fucking sick having camera everywhere and media trying to interview us every 30 seconds. Fuck you media!
 
Media hype isn't exactly a new concept, and it doesn't just apply to the death of a sportsman. It may have been a lot of coverage, but what else were they going to talk about? The newspaper has such a low percentage of stuff that's really relevant - it's a whole new huge debate over the issue about what makes things "newsworthy", and one which I'm not going to go into too much detail about. Suffice to say that David Hook's death didn't impact on the immediate life of my friends and family any more than the latest car bomb in iraq, or any other random "issue" that would have been on the front page had he not been killed.
 
Hopefully the only good thing that will come out of this media hype is updating rules/training/laws etc etc for Crowd Controllers / Bouncers, so another tragic incident like this can hopefully be prevented by a meathead thinking twice before tearing someone a new one.....

Meathead & thinking in the same sentence = oxymoron though....
 
David Hookes wasn't a close friend nor a relative.

And Pleo - you're wrong. There's heaps for the media to beat up on at the moment ie 10 million bux per annum to teach parents how to help their kids read? Bird flu virus with potential to kill millions? Water on mars? 350 million lost in rogue trading??

In my opinion the death of one sportsman hardly rates against the rest of those topics.

Just another case of our society putting sportsmen on a pedastal at the expense of everything else.
 
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Daimo said:
Sorry, don't agree... David Hookes cricket stats may not have been the best in the world, but he gave back to the game that he loved so much.

I hope you don't say the same thing when one of your close relatives or friends dies... "yeah glad they finally buried him/her"

thats a bit cold....

i think what nezo was trying to get at, was that this stuff happens all the time. but it barely even makes the news.
how would you feel if your relative was killed by a bouncer, and there wasn't a big deal about it on the news. then a second grade criketer is killed, and it's a national tragedy.

if they are willing to make a big deal out of him dieing, why not everyone else that is bashed to death??

sure, he didn't deserve to die. but he didn't deserve all the media attention either :\

oh yeah................... and steve waugh didn't deserve aussie of the year.
 
I didn't say any of those were better or worse stories, I was talking about their "newsworthyness". Despite all those things, I'm still going to get up tomorrow and go about my day. All those things were covered anyway - you'd just have to flick a couple of pages further through the paper. I was talking about the direct impact on my immediate world.

When I read the paper, I don't just read the front page. In fact I often don't read the front page at all because the story doesn't appeal (or seem relevant) to me.

Don't get me wrong, I do see your point. I agree that sport gets more than it's fair share of coverage. And I also agree that the whole death was way overhyped by most media outlets. But my point was that so is just about everything - so flick past the hype and read the stuff that interests you. And don't watch television news - especially on commercial networks. :)
 
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW WATER ON MARS DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE!

Seriously, if you want news that affects your immediate world, go read your local community press. Mainstream media is exactly that, mainstream. News that interests the masses. You can't rag on the press for publishing articles that will appear to the widest possible audience. Sure, a few won't find it relevant but it's unreasonable to otherwise. In other words, because you don't find it relevant Pleo doesn't make it any less valid.
 
Which is exactly why you shouldn't care that they gave so much attention to David Hooks! It's almost like you just argued my point for me! ;)

As much as it may or may not suck, this news "interested the masses". So by your own logic, you shouldn't be ragging on it! :)
 
Whats great to see in this thread is people who clearly know sweet fuck all about cricket labelling David Hookes a 2nd rate cricketer. He played for Australia and for SA. He has made the fastest 1st class century ever (38 balls). This makes him a 2nd rate cricketer? Sure he didn't play for Australia for an extended period of time. Ofcourse this all means fuck all to those who have labelled him as such. There has been a lot of talk about "hookesy the family man, cricketer, father, media personality etc", this is for a reason, he was great at all of these things. Balancing elite sport, family, work and many other things isn't easy. David also contributed to the community on a level that he knew best - through sport, he spent time at coaching clinics for young cricketers and visiting rural and marginalised areas.

There is a reason sport recieves so much press and attention in Australian media and that is because the majority of Australians have a strong vested interest in sport. So when a sporting icon dies ofcourse there is going to be a lot of press about it.
True, Steve Waugh was probably not the most deserving person to win Aussie Of The Year, but neither were many of the previous winners. Have a think about what the award is actually about, its not really aimed at recognising the everyday person, its always a celeb that wins it. Compared to many other sportsmen/celebs Steve Waugh does a lot to deserve the Award. He didn't just simply rock up and play cricket. He set an example through his behaviour for impressionable youths who look at him as a role model and behaved as we all hope and expect those representing our country and therefor us as a whole. Steve also does a hell of a lot of charity work - He set up a charity to help children living in poverty in India. This is not just a token charity named in honour of him either, he is hands on with it, spending time in India with empoverished children. He also vary rarely knocks back an invitation to attend charity functions in Australia and never minds signing memrobillia for raffles etc.
I'm not saying he is the most deserving person in australia of the Award but is the most deserving celeb, whom the Award is really aimed at.

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