testosterone lowering drugs

[Lopez]

i used to take adderall a few times a week and unfortunately lost A LOT of muscle mass and fat... i am a bodybuilder (nothing obsessive, just like to workout about 4 days a week) and do not like the way i'm heading. anyway i read that most stims and other drugs lower testosterone levels significantly so i have decided to stay away from them.

through research i read that all opiates and amphetamines will lower test levels. along the way i also found that alcohol and muscle-relaxers (soma, flexeril, etc.) lower them too. so are there any other drugs you might recommend a bodybuilder stay away from. i know i have to prioritize here and that's exactly what i'm doing, i just need to find rec. substances that won't interfere.

also i found some substances RAISE test levels. i'm now using yohimbe daily to recover from my amphetamine binge. so is there any other drugs i should stay away from, and any more that would actually help raise test levels? thanks all.

 

[mgmt&mdma]

im not sure that stims reduce testosterone levels, where did you read that?

i know that working out in general raises testosterone levels. you could also look into DHEA, but im not sure if DHEA is safe or not.

 

[Lopez]

i read it on some bodybuilding website (i know that doesn't narrow it down lol) but i also noticed it because i started lacking sex drive, was literally URINATING sperm the day after, and i lost a lot of muscle mass as i said... something about it lowering gonadotropin.

 

[Lopez]

also it's catabolic.

 

[grrr8Dane]

Opiates do indeed lower testosterone levels, as does Ethanol. I have heard that amphetamines can lead to decreased testosterone levels with prolonged use, but that there are no significant effects on testosterone levels caused by short term use of amphetamines - whether or not this is actually the case, I'm not sure.

Lopez, I would be interested in learning more about the effects of Cyclobenzaprine/Flexeril and Carisoprodol/Soma on testosterone - can you share your references?

 

[Krowsnose]

Opiates are the worst. Don't know too much about the others. I know opiates and prolonged coke/crack use will lead to impotence which probably has something to do with lowered testosterone levels.

 

[Lopez]

Opiates do indeed lower testosterone levels, as does Ethanol. I have heard that amphetamines can lead to decreased testosterone levels with prolonged use, but that there are no significant effects on testosterone levels caused by short term use of amphetamines - whether or not this is actually the case, I'm not sure.

Lopez, I would be interested in learning more about the effects of Cyclobenzaprine/Flexeril and Carisoprodol/Soma on testosterone - can you share your references?

oh, my bad, i was lead to believe this because most serotonin antagonists (cyclobenzaprine) lower test levels. as for soma, it apparently doesn't affect serotonin (not sure though).

 

[grrr8Dane]

^^^ Ah, I understand now. I thought you had uncovered studies RE: Carisoprodol, Cyclobenzaprine and testosterone.

For the record, it's not known if Cyclobenzaprine actually does antagonize 5-HT (subtypes 2A & 2C) serotonin receptors - it's simply theorized and there are other mechanisms of action that have been proposed for Cyclobenzaprine.

 

[FridayNightHigh]

You know what raises testosterone level, anabolic steroids.

 

[mgmt&mdma]

^^yeah how bout we dont promote steroids? yuck.

i think taking an amino acid complex, working out and just staying away from drugs will allow your body to get its' hormones back in order

 

[kokaino]

I'm not sure what other drugs might lower testosterone levels, but perhaps SSRI's? That's just a guess. I think this is something you should talk to your doctor about or maybe you can even google it and do some research on your own.

I'm closing this thread as it has no HR value and all answers will just be speculation/guesses.