(Tested) MDMA, fainting, loss of appetite.

[phantomcosmonaut]

A friend of mine has been using MDMA once every 2-3 weeks for the past few months. She loves it, but every time she does it she throws up and faints at some point, then feels fine. Now she is saying that when sober she has a loss of appetite and extreme lightheaded-ness at random times. I really don't think it could be the MDMA causing this but she seems to think so. How could that be possible? When I first heard that I assumed she just has some unrelated underlying health condition.

 

[xammy]

Is this a troll? Every 2 weeks is obviously too often to do MDMA. Tell her to stop immediately.

 

[Mazzab]

Is this a troll? Every 2 weeks is obviously too often to do MDMA. Tell her to stop immediately.

This

 

[phantomcosmonaut]

What? She used it maybe 6 times over the last 3 months. And that was all she's ever done, now she stopped obviously. Soooo....no.... I know people who do MDMA weekly and they are FINE. It's completely dependent upon the person. Do you have anything to support that the frequency of use could cause this?

 

[Mr.MDxx]

^ Maybe you should do a little more research on how MDMA works on the human brain before you take any more... Massive amounts of serotonin is released every time you take MDMA and it can take quite some time to recover back to it's normal levels. Have you even tested your "MDMA" to see if it is in fact MDMA?

 

[Desohigh]

STOP POSTING THIS SHIT.
It's not real.
If it was real, 1 time use cause a syndrome that you won't be able to feel right in 7 years.

Btw, Mdma usage for once in 2-3 weeks is recoverable if it's like 2-3months usage. It's an abuse but not a big one.
OP, better stay away from mdma.

 

[ScaredFirstTimer]

A friend of mine has been using MDMA once every 2-3 weeks for the past few months. She loves it, but every time she does it she throws up and faints at some point, then feels fine. Now she is saying that when sober she has a loss of appetite and extreme lightheaded-ness at random times. I really don't think it could be the MDMA causing this but she seems to think so. How could that be possible? When I first heard that I assumed she just has some unrelated underlying health condition.

What? She used it maybe 6 times over the last 3 months. And that was all she's ever done, now she stopped obviously. Soooo....no.... I know people who do MDMA weekly and they are FINE.

I honestly cringed.

 

[JWills20]

Jesus, the fear-mongering in this thread is ridiculous. Taking MDMA 6 times in 3 months is nothing catastrophic, chill the fuck out. Not everyone knows or strictly follows our guidelines, and they are just that, GUIDELINES, give the OP a break. I've seen other sources suggesting once every 2-3 weeks as a minimum, not once a month. We're pretty conservative here.

@OP, What doses is your friend taking? Females are usually hit a lot harder than males, so even moderate doses could be a high dose for her (I'm thinking 130-150mg as being high for a female). High doses often cause nausea, but fainting is less common. Perhaps she does have an underlying condition which MDMA exacerbates. Could be worth seeking proper medical assistance.

 

[ScaredFirstTimer]

More like an acknowledgement that the OP's friend could indeed be experiencing side effects from MDMA, so that she doesn't keep using when she hears that there's no problems in dropping every other week. I do agree that it wasn't exactly done with the utmost finesse though.

 

[JWills20]

More like an acknowledgement that the OP's friend could indeed be experiencing side effects from MDMA, so that she doesn't keep using when she hears that there's no problems in dropping every other week. I do agree that it wasn't exactly done with the utmost finesse though.

You miss the point. The OP posts

She loves it, but every time she does it she throws up and faints at some point, then feels fine

which would imply that the amount of usage really has nothing to do with this. If she fainted the first time, then it's nothing to do with taking it too often is it? So we should try and give advice that actually fits the context of the question. Doses being too high, or an underlying condition, sounds like a more reasonable explanation.

Posting bullshit images of studies which have already been proven to be completely false goes exactly against what this forum strives for. Labelling people as 'trolls' because they do not follow our guidelines is pathetic.

It's disappointing to see this type of stuff happening on BL.

 

[ScaredFirstTimer]

You should read the entire OP.

Now she is saying that when sober she has a loss of appetite and extreme lightheaded-ness at random times. I really don't think it could be the MDMA causing this but she seems to think so. How could that be possible? When I first heard that I assumed she just has some unrelated underlying health condition.

His friend seems to think that it is the MDMA that is the culprit of her new-found loss of appetite and lightheadedness when sober. Obviously there could be a correlation between her frequent MDMA use and those symptoms.

 

[JWills20]

You should read the entire OP.



His friend seems to think that it is the MDMA that is the culprit of her new-found loss of appetite and lightheadedness when sober. Obviously there could be a correlation between her frequent MDMA use and those symptoms.

I would still doubt that. They're not common symptoms. You hear of anxiety, depression but not loss of appetite and light-headedness. Loss of appetite could be serotonin-related, but light-headed sounds like blood pressure.

It's really over-exaggerated to suggest that using MDMA only 6 times in 3 months is actually going to change much. If you were to carry on this usage for a few years then maybe.

 

[xammy]

I was under the impression she did it every 2 weeks for a few months. That could be harmful right?

It's still unknown what kind of doses she did. What if she did over 300mg every time? Or 500mg?

 

[JWills20]

I was under the impression she did it every 2 weeks for a few months. That could be harmful right?

It's still unknown what kind of doses she did. What if she did over 300mg every time? Or 500mg?

OP specified in a later post that the consumption was only 6 times in 3 months:

What? She used it maybe 6 times over the last 3 months. And that was all she's ever done, now she stopped obviously.

That's nothing out of the ordinary nor extreme. You're right that we don't know the dosage, that could be the critically important aspect here. It would still be rather unlikely that someone experiences long-term effects in 3 months of usage. The guideline of once a month is to safely sustain longer usage (years) and reduce tolerance.

 

[xammy]

^Some people in bluelight claim having long term effects from only ONE time use. They surely overdid it, total consumption being a gram or more.

 

[MrPorter]

Since it's a female we're on about here, it might be wise to ask female questions like: Periods? Iron intake? Taking medication/on the pill? If it wasn't 3 months, then pregnancy? (but that's probably redundant now since 3 months)
And now the more general ones: Diet? Low blood pressure? Dehydration? Diabetes (linked with diet)?

Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause most of those symptoms as well, so use of nitrous oxide at all, since that's a known depleter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response

There's a lot of things that could cause this bro, if it happen everytime I would suggest not using it at all no matter how 'fine' she feels after.

 

[ScaredFirstTimer]

^Some people in bluelight claim having long term effects from only ONE time use. They surely overdid it, total consumption being a gram or more.

I feel obligated to correct this. It is definitely true that people on here claim to have long term effects from one single recreational dose of MDMA, I am one of them. What I wish to correct in your post is, as I just said, that we are talking about recreational doses. Not overdoing it. I can name a handful of guys from this forum right now that's suffering from one incident with MDMA ranging from 50 - 300mg. This is by no means fear-mongering. It is merely an attempt to shed light on the complications that can arise from sparse MDMA use in some people.

Now, in light of the anecdotal reports on this forum I don't think it is far fetched to say that the girl in question might be suffering from side-effects induced by her MDMA use. It could be a wide variety of things, so obviously we should encourage her to visit her doctor, and at the same time stop her use of MDMA, at least intermittently, until she finds the culprit of her symptoms.

 

[JWills20]

^Some people in bluelight claim having long term effects from only ONE time use. They surely overdid it, total consumption being a gram or more.

You must realize that this is a tiny minority of users, against the large majority who don't experience this. Not to mention that usually these 'one-time use fucked me forever' type of threads are usually untested substances. Not to say MDMA couldn't cause it, we just can't guarantee it was MDMA.

Same argument applies to ScaredFirstTimer. You are fear-mongering in every sense of the word. You're taking the absolute worst case scenario, which happens to a miniscule amount of the MDMA population, and suggesting that it could happen. This is exactly what the Government and media do all the time.

 

[ScaredFirstTimer]

You're taking the absolute worst case scenario, which happens to a miniscule amount of the MDMA population, and suggesting that it could happen.

Again I have to urge you to re-read my posts. I've never suggested that something along the lines of a long-term comedown could happen, or has happened to the person in question. I've outlined the possibility that the problems the girl OP is talking about might be caused by her MDMA use. If her symptoms is indeed caused by her frequent use of MDMA, and if they were to evaporate after a break, I would see this as a pretty good scenario tbh.

 

[JWills20]

Again I have to urge you to re-read my posts. I've never suggested that something along the lines of a long-term comedown could happen, or has happened to the person in question. I've outlined the possibility that the problems the girl OP is talking about might be caused by her MDMA use. If her symptoms is indeed caused by her frequent use of MDMA, and if they were to evaporate after a break, I would see this as a pretty good scenario tbh.

The problem is that people seem to think that using 6 times in 3 months is some sort of disaster. It's really not. I've done worse. I know other people who've done a lot worse. The general population overdo MDMA all the time. It might not be safe practice, but it's unlikely to realistically change anything in such a short time frame - unless you're taking big doses. The long-term effects of MDMA are just that - long-term. I really don't regard 3 months as long-term.