Cycle Advice Test Propionate >Test C/E?

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Ismene2

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Just a heads up for anyone on trt using cyp or E. I never liked these long esters - sure you get "stable levels" but the trouble is the stable level you need in the daytime isnt the same level you need at night trying to sleep. So you either feel good in the day then youre laid awake all night, or you drop the dose until you can sleep - which means you barely feel anything in the daytime.

Recently switched to test prop 10mg ed and feel the best Ive ever felt on T. Kicks in within about 90 mins, then drops at night so you can get some sleep - like a bodys natural rhythm. Ive heard people say "test is test" - thats bullshit. Dont go confusing Test P with some whole other body.
 
Okay, sure, but if you are laying awake all night I seriously doubt your long ester testosterone is the cause. In fact, for most not on exogenous hormones, the highest amounts of testosterone secretion occur during REM sleep with natural levels often peaking in the early AM.

With that said, I'm glad that you found something that is working well for but this shouldn't be taken as a universally accepted advice as even daily short ester injections are far from mimicking body's natural rhythm.
 
Yeah its obviously exogenous hormones mate - your natural test production stops if you take test so its nothing to do with natural levels. I've been taking slow ester test for years - take a bit too much and you cant sleep for 3 days till the level drops.Have you ever taken test?

Slow acting esters output a constant high level of test with no variation for night and day. If you take enough to feel good during the day it stays at that level all night too - thats the whole point of slow acting esters - a constant level.

Test prop starts off high then drops towards night so you can feel great during the day and get to sleep at night.
 
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I’m on TRT and blast j cruise for 10 years now , I never had problems sleep only time I had issues was when e2 were high or low , or very high androgen levels (high testosterone,tren etc) when on proper dosages with e2 controlled never a problem, however if you’re new to testosterone it can certainly cause a level of “stimulation”. Also if you’re on prop you’re on lower dosage and lower overall aromatisation so that plays a huge role too.
 
Test prop does FEEL a hundred times better tho - maybe cos its a higher peak? I dunno but fucking hell there is no comparison - some guy on youtube calls it "the god ester"

Ive only been taking it a month and they've asked me to join the justice league!
 
Yeah out of all esters prop feels the best second best is phenylprop but it’s not popular nowdays , also pharmaceutical Sustanon and omnadren are godlike I suspect cause they have prop and phenylprop in it. But it gets old real quick to pin eod forever
 
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