Test E + Trenavar (PH)

[roganmaster]

I've been kicking around this idea for awhile but I wanted some opinions or experiences first.

I've run two successful prohormone cycles in the past during 8 years of lifting experience. The first cycle was CEL's H-Drol with Nolva in PCT and the 2nd cycle was H-Drol and X-Tren with Clomid PCT (I had Nolva just incase...). I loved both cycles, kept great gains, and my bloodwork returned beautiful results. I'm really happy I did both of those cycles and have 0 regrets, and I honestly wish those products were still available.

Anyways, I'm planning my first pin with Testosterone Enanthate alone for a 12 week cycle and was debating tossing in 4 weeks of Trenavar (Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione), it goes under a number of different brand names depending on the lab, but the compound is what counts. I do not have access to Dbol, Var, or any other orals so this seemed like the next best option.

Weeks 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate, 400-500mg
Weeks 1-4 Trenavar 60mg daily.

I haven't seen much info from users combining testosterone with PH's so I figured I'd come to my favorite harm reduction website to get some thoughts!

 

[-Guido-]

I've been kicking around this idea for awhile but I wanted some opinions or experiences first.

I've run two successful prohormone cycles in the past during 8 years of lifting experience. The first cycle was CEL's H-Drol with Nolva in PCT and the 2nd cycle was H-Drol and X-Tren with Clomid PCT (I had Nolva just incase...). I loved both cycles, kept great gains, and my bloodwork returned beautiful results. I'm really happy I did both of those cycles and have 0 regrets, and I honestly wish those products were still available.

Anyways, I'm planning my first pin with Testosterone Enanthate alone for a 12 week cycle and was debating tossing in 4 weeks of Trenavar (Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione), it goes under a number of different brand names depending on the lab, but the compound is what counts. I do not have access to Dbol, Var, or any other orals so this seemed like the next best option.

Weeks 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate, 400-500mg
Weeks 1-4 Trenavar 60mg daily.

I haven't seen much info from users combining testosterone with PH's so I figured I'd come to my favorite harm reduction website to get some thoughts!

Trenavar is a waste IMO. It was overhyped and the conversion rate is low. I would use something like Halodrol in conjunction with Test E. It's still around too! The bascially changed the nomenclature to get over the steroid law. It's an already active steroid and puts on nice lean mass and has a great recomp effect. Search H-Stane on Google, it's Halodrol and it's legit. I have used it before. You can run it for 6-8 weeks if you want because it's a very mild oral.

 

[roganmaster]

Trenavar is a waste IMO. It was overhyped and the conversion rate is low. I would use something like Halodrol in conjunction with Test E. It's still around too! The bascially changed the nomenclature to get over the steroid law. It's an already active steroid and puts on nice lean mass and has a great recomp effect. Search H-Stane on Google, it's Halodrol and it's legit. I have used it before. You can run it for 6-8 weeks if you want because it's a very mild oral.

Thanks for the input, I didn't realize some form of H-Drol was still floating around anymore. I loved the stuff, crazy back pumps though. Do you think it would still play nicely with the Test-E?

 

[Serotonin101]

Everything goes well with test from what I've read. Its the bread n butter of every cycle though dosages may vary depending on what the user is after from the test. Some prefer it as the main compound and use the 500mg+/week range while others use it to supplement the shutdown test from trenbolone, etc in a lower range. Get an AI in case you get sides from the test and pct in order (not saying you dont, just putting that in there in case others stumble across this thread).

 

[-Guido-]

Thanks for the input, I didn't realize some form of H-Drol was still floating around anymore. I loved the stuff, crazy back pumps though. Do you think it would still play nicely with the Test-E?

It would make for a really good cycle. Think of it as Dianabol without the bloat and with an Anavar like effect.

 

[smson_420]

I been vary of all the Ph pills floating around. Next go around, I'm thinking Anadrol and test(and other shit).

Tried dbol, but it wasn't anything special.

Either that, or T-Bol

 

[roganmaster]

It would make for a really good cycle. Think of it as Dianabol without the bloat and with an Anavar like effect.

That sounds fantastic. H-Stane/Halocor seem to be the same in terms of dosage and potency as the old H-Drol. My first cycle was 6 weeks 50/75/75/75/75/75 and I netted about 5-6lbs in a great re-comp. I think I'll probably run 6 weeks at 75mg ED alongside of Test at 500mg/wk.

So excited! My pre-cycle bloodwork is coming up at the end of August so my first ever pin isn't that far away.

 

[-Guido-]

I been vary of all the Ph pills floating around. Next go around, I'm thinking Anadrol and test(and other shit).

Tried dbol, but it wasn't anything special.

Either that, or T-Bol

I wouldn't bother with Anadrol unless you are sitting at a dry 8% body fat at most or preferably lower otherwise it's going to make you look like a shit bag.

 

[smson_420]

I wouldn't bother with Anadrol unless you are sitting at a dry 8% body fat at most or preferably lower otherwise it's going to make you look like a shit bag.

I heard that for sure. . . I'm thinking on my next cycle running a super lean high cal, high protein diet. You think it'll still do negative shit? How? Water retention?

 

[-Guido-]

I heard that for sure. . . I'm thinking on my next cycle running a super lean high cal, high protein diet. You think it'll still do negative shit? How? Water retention?

It depends on how much fat you are holding. You got to remember the weight and size you put on with Anadrol is mostly intracellular water, and if you are carrying significant bodyfat it becomes subcutaneous water as well. That's a recipe for looking like a mess, you end up looking very bloofy and sloppy.

I plan on using Anadrol myself when I am lean enough to help me "blow up lean", meaning getting yourself to a low body fat with significant lean muscle and then using the Anadrol to put water into that muscle which will look GREAT due little to no fat covering the muscle and having no subcutaneous water retention.