It is when you automatically discount Islam from being a motivating factor in their behaviour. You and others deliberately ring fence it from being included.
All of you can bang on about 'context' all you like but until you accept that Islam may be a motivating factor in these peoples behaviour then I do not believe you are being honest in your appraisal of the situation, and subsequently I think your position is therefore seriously flawed.
Maybe it's true?
Most muslims i know consider terrorists (and those that sympathise with them) to be traitors to the faith, or whatever.
I mean, the 911 hijackers were out drinking booze the night before the attacks...
Why assume that people that flip out and commit acts of terrorism are always pious devotees?
Presumably the best people to ask would be those who worship in the same mosque?
If you go looking for hidden agendas, you'll see them everywhere. It's called confirmation bias.
I know you're high on meth, but really? Put down the glass pipe, syringe, straw, etc. No it's not a "false flag" or whatever other nonsense conspiracy theorists want to claim it is. Haven't you been paying attention to the news from Nice Southern France, and Berlin at all?
It is when you automatically discount Islam from being a motivating factor in their behaviour . . . until you accept that Islam may be a motivating factor in these peoples behaviour then I do not believe you are being honest . . . your position is therefore seriously flawed . . . At no point does mass murder become an acceptable response in rational people. Shouting God Is Great after murdering people tends to suggest Islam was a motivating factor
i don't see anybody here doing that. reports suggest that he shouted "allah 'akbar" and left a note in arabic suggesting isis was a motivating factor. islam was clearly a factor.It is when you automatically discount Islam from being a motivating factor in their behaviour. You and others deliberately ring fence it from being included.
Goddammit, Jesus Christ, Bless your heart. How about Cross my fingers, or knock on wood? The last two distorted through a media filter sound genuinely scary. What do they mean? Well, the Cross is the torture device the Westerners "prophet" was executed on.
With all due respect, I don't think anyone has suggested Islam isn't a motivating factor. It's just not the entire explanation. Yes, radical Islam ideology is bad, no doubt. But what else is going on, what is these people's baseline mental/emotional state that causes them to accept such a doctrine in the first place? Surely there are many, many people who choose not to accept that doctrine too. A radical minority does not define an entire religion. Islam is just a mechanism by which that sort of ideology is justified, the same as it usually is. Christianity has done it, continues to do it today in some cases. Excessive nationalism is another way it is commonly justified.
It does nothing and no one any good to react blindly to a concept such that you cease to be aware of or pay attention to the whole picture. Radical Islamists believe what they're doing is right, the same as everyone else. It is false and even damaging to view them as the "evil ones" or whatever, and try to explain it that way. The real boogeyman is the aspect of our nature that allows it to happen, and it is a lack of understanding of that which allows it to happen again and again throughout history and cultures.
I know you're high on meth, but really? Put down the glass pipe, syringe, straw, etc. No it's not a "false flag" or whatever other nonsense conspiracy theorists want to claim it is. Haven't you been paying attention to the news from Nice Southern France, and Berlin at all?
My brother uses that pathFortunately he was not one of those affected
at yet another "Nothing to see here....move on with your lives" statement from the powers that be there (blasio).
Mr. 997 mentioned LEDs brainwashing Americans, confusing Mr. Swillow, who asked what he meant. I answered with how I think he meant TV screens, and a false flag thing, as Mr. 997 has been known to believe happen. Right there in my second line I say this. Post #4 I think, so not so deep as to lose track of the conversation.
I can tell my level of intoxication based upon the level of cringe I produce upon reading my madness the next morning. Pass the kratom and cbd...i got some work left before I humiliate myself later (drink a beer, watch tv-based entertainment/newsey type show, post on bluelight.)
What happened in new york is fucking disgusting, and must be strongly condemned (as it has been).
But the response (in relation to other tragedies) is a disgrace.
Yeah, it's disturbing the way murders are judged in seriousness according to the ethnicity of the perp.
I can't really think of a clearer example of insitutionalised racism.
White guy shoots into a crowd at a music festival, killing 50+ and injuring hudreds = "lone wolf"
White neo-nazi drives car into a crowd of protesters, killing one, injuring many = trump lays blame on "both sides" praises "good people" involved in nazi rally.
The president refuses to call the man or his associates terrorists, despite them using ISIS methods to kill people.
Muslim guy drives car into cyclists and traffic, killing 8 and injuring many = terrorist, widespread condemnation and the usual comments exploiting this tragedy to push anti-immigration line, and support trump's unconstitutional travel bans.
What happened in new york is fucking disgusting, and must be strongly condemned (as it has been).
But the response (in relation to other tragedies) is a disgrace.
It has never been more demonstrable that the way "terrorism" is defined by the establishment has more to do with the ethnic and cultural background of the killer than the act itself, even when an organised terrorist group uses the tactics of another terrorist group (using a car as a weapon in a crowded space).
The so-called war on terror is a racist war.
I guess trump supporters got the race war they wanted all along then?
Putting words in my mouth, oh words in my mouth.
all shouted Allahu Akbar . . . motivations behind those attacks. It's really not difficult to follow that line of thought is . . . the same phrase is not a coincidence.
Not sure what other point you were trying to make in your post - if you want to get high and write that's great but don't get upset if what you wrote gets misinterpreted because you're on a different wavelength to others. It doesn't even need stating to be honest, no one was judging you though.
What are you actually talking about?
I work amongst the great unwashed of the Midwest every day....I know what people are saying. No one said shit about this. Do you know I wear a taqayah? It's my yamika. Im bearded too.
Ps...only once in the two and half years working in this part of the world with these people (I could mean my Jewish owners aka boss or my native crew actually makes no difference) did I have to explain Im not a terrorist, tell the customer to stfu) did I even have to explain it's just a yamika. Most people seem overly nice to me.
one but me or the people on the radio said a word...I didnt say a word, rather I had my thoughts which was to screen for how the people on the radio said the President was thinking. ?