Terrible Alcohol Hangovers triggered by MDMA?

[muxer]

Hey evereyone.

I've been getting really terrible hangovers from booze lately. By terrible I mean besides the usual stuff (nausea, headache, tachycardia, shaky..) I can get really anxious, confused, depressed and other weird feelings (derealisation, rapid mood swings, very unstable emotionally etc.) some of it almost similar to coming up on shrooms. Since these symptoms are probably linked to brain chemistry/serotonin and started happening after my 1st or 2nd mdma consumption (only took it twice so far, don't plan on doing it again as it has increased my tinnnitus by like 2x everytime, could be from the loud music aswell though lol) I was wondereing if anyone else has similar experiences? I can't remember alcohol hangovers that were this terrible/abnormal from before I took mdma. The dose (mdma powder) was normal or below average evereytime btw (and very pure stuff) and it was amazing plus I didn't really have any after effects.

This usually only lasts a day or two and then I'm normal again. It sucks to be so sensitive to alcohol at my age and I'm hoping this will subside sometime :/
I only drink ~once/per month or less not that heavily.

thanks in advance for your answers, sorry if similar threads already exist I was too lazy to do a search

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

I'm not sure exactly how that happens, but I know that alcohol use alone is enough to have this progressive hangover effect, and that hepatotoxic drugs like Mdma might accelerate the process. I think that a lot of people probably have these same hangover sensations, and that they mean different things to different people - I mean obviously some people care a lot about their health and the state of their body; other don't really notice or give a shit as much. But if there is one thing I have learned: alcohol is the devil. I'd encourage you to stop drinking alcohol because it sounds like it is causing you liver damage. It really doesn't take that much, that alcohol stuff is some pretty heavy poison. For myself, the hangover means a complete waste of a day, with the inclusion of great suffering and health risks. I avoid it, and consider it equivalent to death. That alcohol junk puts my liver noticeably through uncomfortable stress the next few days, even if I only have a couple, and when I was younger and dumb enough to booze heavily, my brain always felt severely damaged afterwards.

I'm big into cannabis, which helps me to avoid that alcohol junk entirely. That booze stuff is nonsense - drinking is a great time, but it turns out that it's really just a big poison that is totally unsustainable for some human bodies in the long term.

I think your life history of drinking alcohol is a more significant factor in the present overall state of your health and your degenerating reaction to alcohol than two rave sessions, would not worry about the Mdma in this case. But I wouldn't take it ever again if I were you because it's a risky thing to take, it can indeed worsen your alcohol hangovers among other problems, and I personally regret having ever taken Mdma.

 

[Paulo_di_canio]

What the hell! The guy drinks once a month and you're telling him it's his lifetime alcohol use causing this. Bullshit

Well done you on not drinking, do you want a medal? Seriously. The majority of people are able to enjoy alcohol responsibly without any problems.

To OP sounds maybe just take a decent break from the drink.

As for the tinnitus, makes me feel like I'm not going insane because iv been affected by this too, yet there is very little information on the subject!

 

[muxer]

thanks for your answers.

I've had tinnitus all my life long as far as I think back and I can life with it very well. It has been greatly amplified but I'm not too sure if its mdma's fault because the volume there was just inhumane and I also had lots of stress lately

I am trying to avoid (binge) drinking as much as I can because like you said the neg by far outweights the pros but the problem is the social acceptance and additionally my current situation. I just graduated (I'm 19, europe ) and its time to party. friends of mine don't get hangovers nearly that badly but of course my physical condition also might play a large role as I'm quite small and had little to zero exercise the last few months (studied alot)

I am just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences because I dont think what I experience is caused solely by alcohol. ofc if i stick to beer for example its alot better but I believe that my brain chemistry might be slightly shifted or something so that I do not notice it when sober, only after drinking? I know this sounds doubtful but how else would you explain it

I guess the best option is just to load up on nutrients/prevention (before drinking and after) the next time and see how it goes..
I'll go on a class trip soon to turkey and there absolutey won't be anything other than alcohol consumed I am kinda afraid of that

as for mdma I plan on not taking it again for now..

 

[Paulo_di_canio]

Sounds like you're getting smashed?

Low serotonin is supposed to have an effect on tinnitus, how long ago did you last roll? It may well decrease.

Sucks you've had it your whole life, iv had it mild for about 2 months and its quite annoying, although not annoying enough to put me off rolling in the future!

 

[muxer]

over 3 months ago actually, I've been getiing smashed around 6 or 7 times in that time and always had the same crazy hangover except for like once, doesn't look like its getting better :/
my tinnitus is very loud but I feel like my brain learned to sort of filter out those really high frequencys and I can only really hear the ringing when I concentrate on it or when there's no other acoustic source

 

[Paulo_di_canio]

Take it a bit easier, stick to beer instead of liquor.

If you used only a couple of times at sensible doses and its been 3 months it's unlikely that It has anything to do with mdma.

On a side note are you absolutely sure it was mdma (tested?) you said you had powder, Pure form comes in shards of crystal and even then it's can be cut with something.