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Terence Mckenna and his ideas today

In my own experience, much of what mckenna has spoken about does seem like fantasy... until you experience it for yourself. :D Much in the same way the prospect of everyone and everything being just One being seems outlandish and completely wrong, .... until you experience it for yourself.

It is when you experience these fantastic realities and revelations for yourself that these ideas and philosophies make sense, because you create these same/similar realities that others like mckenna have before.

I believe in these ideas and philosophies not because a wordsmith weaves a magical spell, but because i created these same (or similar) ideas and philosphies well before i'd ever heard of a man named terence mckenna. And not just because i along with some other trippers formulated these same thoughts due to psychedelic experience, but specifically because i experience these fantastic realities as part of my everyday reality.

Oh and stropharia, i'll take you up on that offer ;)
 
Darwin's natural selection is timeless and can be brought into any discussion. People only care about ideas and concepts that last long enough to affect them. The more an object is adapted to its environment, the longer it will last. I can imagine the self-destruction of humanity, or the dinosaurs, but does anyone consider the removal of carbon from the universe? The creation of carbon is such a basic element in the evolution of our world that it is everywhere. Whatever part of humanity survives the current technological revolution, it will be something that mirrors the nature of the world around us, and this is expressed in Terence McKenna's ideas. What we as humans are in now may be seen as a transition between energy levels in the future.
 
As for whether the elves are true enough, I'd say yes, if they are concidered to be the operators in the mind that contribute to the formation of the final perception of the senses through cognition, and thereupon language. It is my belief that from a physiological view, the 'expansion of consciousness' with psychedelics is most accurate a term, in the sense that there indeed will be increased neural activity - not reduced, not 'unnatural', but increased. This, I believe, accounts for being aware of the earlier stages of visual perception and thus seeing fractal patterns that correlate with the cerebral algorithm by which the sensation of sight is formed. This phenomena also has to do with the cognitive activity of the brain, comprising such factors as memory, association and language.

If I take enough psychedelics, I often do see my linguistic function as having a gnome-esque quality to it, with these operators shifting memes about in my mind. And, I can 'visually' see them too, witnessing the creation of perception by language.
 
Mckenna is a true genius and visionary, and think that many naturalists or darwinists are inclined to reject his theories, yes they are radical. But we are simple humans who think that our knowledge is god, but it isnt very close to that at all.
 
i'll take ya'll up on that offer too, or how about i'll pay ya $45256256 if the world isn't um.. drastically.. "changed" by the end of 2012.. well by 2010.. well.. before that we'll all already know something big is coming,

So have you people noticed things like how its a "small world"? .. one getting smaller and smaller.. meaning.. everyone knows each other?

You go to .. lets say a party, you see so and so you havne't seen for years, back when you were living wherever. One of the friends your with see's the person "ohh dude i haven't talked to you in soo long!" then that same person happens to be the brother of the guy that owns the house (who you know also) ... who.. dated this girl.. that lives 2 streets away and is over every other day... then the friend from the UK that just moved back knows.. this.. that.. person. you know.. and...

and this one especially... http://www.myspace.com - do i have to go on about that one?

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I typed in "singularity" into google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=singularity&btnG=Google+Search

I. J. Good (1965) writes:

"Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine that can far surpass all the intellectual activities of any man however clever. Since the design of machines is one of these intellectual activities, an ultraintelligent machine could design even better machines; there would then unquestionably be an 'intelligence explosion,' and the intelligence of man would be left far behind. Thus the first ultraintelligent machine is the last invention that man need ever make."

Mathematician and author Vernor Vinge greatly popularized Good's notion of an intelligence explosion in the 1980s, calling it the Singularity. Vinge first addressed the topic in print in the January 1983 issue of Omni Magazine. He later collected his thoughts in the 1993 essay "The Coming Technological Singularity", which contains the oft-quoted statement "Within thirty years, we will have the technological means to create superhuman intelligence. Shortly thereafter, the human era will be ended."

Vinge writes that superhuman intelligences, however created, will be even more able to enhance their own minds faster than the humans that created them. "When greater-than-human intelligence drives progress," Vinge writes, "that progress will be much more rapid." This feedback loop of self-improving intelligence, he predicts, will cause large amounts of technological progress within a short period of time.
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http://www.accelerationwatch.com/

http://www.singinst.org/

http://omegapoint.org/modules/news/

^^ that one has some colorful images hehe didnt read much of it,


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ohh yeah.. I never realised how much meaning there was in the new Tool album - 10,000 days,

Rosetta Stoned -

Alrighty then,
Picture this if you will:

Began at 2 am and i fueled eating up an entire box of krispy kremes and i might eat enough as i saw area 51, contemplating the multitudes of the most flaming stuff ive ever seen and then it ripped the sky wide open, and ive never seen a place like this i do believe i punctured or died or something within my birkenstocks holy fucking shit.

Wachen Sie Auf (wake up, in german)
Wachen Sie Auf
Wachen Sie Auf
Wachen Sie Auf

Then the x-files being who were in some kind of blurry jetship ?? breath that reeked and he went buggadabuggadabuddada stare back into my bug eyes my gaping jaw and my steady lower and upper lip and all I could think was I hope Uncle ? here doesn't notice i pissed my fucking pants.

So alive in this way, like an apparition he had me crying out:
Fuck me.
It's gotta be.
A Deadhead.
Chemistry.
The bottom got up on top of me.
It's got me seeing E motherfucking T.

And after calming me down with some orange slices and some fetal spooning the ET revealed to me his singular purpose he said:
"You are the chosen one. The one who will deliver the message. A message of hope for those who should choose to hear it and a warning for those who do not."

Me, the chosen one.
They chose me, and I didn't even graduate from fucking high school.

You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better...
You'd better listen.

Then he looked right through me.
With somniferous almond eyes.
Don't even know what that means.
But remember to write it down.
This is so real.
Like the time they floated away.
See, my heart is burning.
Cause this shit never happens to me.

I can't breathe right now.

It was so real,
Like I woke up in wonderland.
It was a bit terrifying.
I don't want to be all alone,
When I tell the story.
And can anyone tell me why?
It was a repeat experience?
Will I ever be coming down.
This is so real.
Finally it's my lucky day.
See my heart is racing.
This shit never happens to me.

I can't breathe right now.

You believe me don't you?
Please believe what I just said.
See them telling children,
And this wasn't all in my head.
See they took be right by the hand.
And invted me right in
Then they showed me something.
I don't even know where to begin.

Strapped down on my bed.
Feet cold and eyes red.
I'm out my head.
Am I alive? Am I dead?
Can't remember what they said.
God damn, I shit the bed.

High.

Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be, the one.
Born to bear and write you all the details of our ending.
To write it down for all the world to see.
But I forgot my pen.
Shit the bed again... typical.

Strapped down on my bed.
Feet cold and eyes red.
I'm out of my head.
Am my alive? Am my dead?
Sunkist and sudafed.
Gyroscopes and infrared.
Won't help the braindead.
Can't remember what they said.
God damn, I shit the bed.

I can't remember what they said, to me.
Canât remember what they said to make me out to be a hero.
I can't remember what they said.

Canât remember what they said.

Don't know, won't know, don't know, won't know, don't know, won't know.....
God damn, I shit the bed
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There's a lot more people than Mckenna talking about this shit nowadays.....
 
Mckenna and Leary's works are interesting reads. I feel deeply ashamed for them sometimes, and it makes me cautions about the 'powers' of the drugs. At the same time, Leary shows what can be accomplished with personality, a quick mind, and an absolute lack of shame/humility/caution, while some of Terrance's tripped out ideas might just be crazy enough to be true. But I have this audio clip of him saying, "we were among the first to achieve contact" that is just so heartbrakingly stupid and insane I really have to believe anything he produced is deeply flawed.
 
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I don't really care for Timewave theory, but I love the romantic notion of humans evolving to our present state of conciousness via psilocybn. If anything, at least he showed how stimulated the imagination can become when involved in the psychedelic kingdom . . . .
 
But I have this audio clip of him saying, "we were of the first to achieve contact" that is just so heartbrakingly stupid and insane I really have to believe anything he produced is deeply flawed.
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i think that is a very lucid view on the matter. i enjoy his work abstractly, but it's a little uhm... hucksterish or something like that. a little loose i think, with some of it. A really quick, interesting, and vocal character but i think it is very important to keep your logical bearings when listening to him spin his web.
 
McKenna is a riveting speaker who is very thought-provoking to listen to. But I do think his ideas are a little on the extreme side. But that's not to say that I disbelieve everything he claims. Like most things, I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
 
^^ I've read Food of The Gods and I agree that some of his radical ideas are pretty extreme. His ideas about mushrooms in that book seemed so extreme it kind of turned me off to his books.
 
Yeah the first thing I ever read of his was The Invisible Landscape, which is a fantastic read, and turned me on to this guy, and his thoughts...

...then I read Food of the Gods and I couldn't help but notice the internal dialogue in my head saying things like "Dang, this guy went off the deep end."

But in his defense, he was a lot more grounded than Leary ever was. 8(
 
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But in his defense, he was a lot more grounded than Leary ever was. 8(
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Now I would totally disagree with that. From what I've read Leary was pretty much an average megalomaniac who found a niche market and exploited it for all it was worth. Any biography on him shows his behavior remained constant throughout his life- he was a hedonistic bastard always chasing the next high. The New Yorker had an excellent book review on a recent biography of Leary (although its much more of a stand alone article than a book review).

You can read it here.

It synthesizes everything I've been able to glean about Leary and "the movement" perfectly. Basically, Leary was always ready to roll with the punches, sell out, and do whatever to get ahead- he wasn't any more insane than the next self-centered asshole.

Mckenna, on the other hand, truly believed he had contacted alien intelligence from another dimension. Can you imagine what that would do to your world, to actually believe that? Then imagine the conflicts that arise with your loved ones knowing you believed that shit and trying to see it too as you pestered them with religious fervor. Have you ever had a really profound breakthrough in a trip and you tried to explain that nonsense on someone? Mckenna was going through that in slow motion, for his entire life. No wonder he got brain cancer!
 
Those are excellent points, I must say... but they also rely on the subjective assumption that Leary was pretty sane and just doing whatever he did to make the next buck and whatnot, as you explained.

But I disagree. I think the guy flipped his lid. He told his confidantes that he felt like his head was melting down his shoulders and shit. He freaked out and went to Algeria to live with the Black Panthers and started talking about using guns in the revolution and shit. He just went and flipped out, if you ask me.

And once again, I wasn't saying that McKenna was sane or "normal" or whatever... just that it appears to me that he was better off than Leary. I still think McKenna, God rest his soul, was a crackpot. But there was a level of consistency to his demeanor, his motivations, that kind of thing.

But I really think that Leary was either an agent of the government in some way, or just a really fried acidhead.
 
You bring up good points as well. I do believe that towards the end he really did lose his mind... but when you're hanging with the black panthers you've gotta talk guns!
 
It is our purpose to listen to McKenna's words and begin the destruction of agricultural dominating societies (or as the Rasta call: Babylon) and bring the people back to the old ways. His words should fuel environmentalists to take militant action.

Plants are the answer. Those who wish to make our planet illegal are doomed to die.
 
^im confused about the post above mine.
What does it have to do with anything?

Iv had plenty of DMT blast off's and i dont think any higher of McKenna.

I enjoy reading books by him and by leary but i in no way look up to them and take everything they say with a grain of salt.
 
Terence McKenna died of brain cancer in 2000 at the age of 54.
i wonder if all that DMT and mushrooms caused that.
does anyone know what caused his brain cancer so young.
 
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