temaz consumption

[klowns]

i know alot of us will never agree abouit something im going to post but for christs sakes lets agree to disagree and if you are going to jump into this thread soley to say that inssuflating benzos is fuckign stupid, then PLEASE PLEASE do NOT RESPOND. this thread is only asking people who do inssuflate their benzos, specificaly temazepam.
im wondering what the oral vs nasal bio is for temaz, and as well, im curious to those that have tried it or do it alot, does it give a better high? and what woul dbe a good dose at night to relax for someone who has a tolerance to 6 mg kpin a day? would the nasal dose be less then the oral, or vice versa? and any other knowledge about this particular benzo, except as i said PLEASE, do NOT POST ANYTHING about how you only get high off the drip, etc etc etc etc.
thanks!
peace

 

[klowns]

also whats the soluability in water? cause i know they used to have a bug reputation for being shot with dope.
ethanol? not saying im going to shoot them, i am just curious. thanks

 

[SynAmnesia]

I will start this saying I have not insufllated temazepam. However, I have heard that nasal bioavailability is very low. That is because it not water soluble. I have read a report somewhere that said that there was a slight difference in effects nasally vs. orally, but the effect wasn't that significant, nor was it significantly more potent to warrant the increased side effects due to insufflation. (Not to mention sticking all those binders up one's nose including sodium lauryl sulfate, and titanium dioxide.)

According to the PDR it is "very slightly soluble in water". That is why there are warnings against shooting it. In fact, it is responsible for many cases of gangrene due to its solubility. This was especially the case when it came in a gelform, as people used to shoot it more often as they thought, "oh look, this is quasi liquid, lets stick it in our veins." Meanwhile, the particles would clog up one's veins and cause major health problems, including many cases where people needed to have their limbs amputated.

Also according to the PDR, it is "sparingly soluble in alcohol." Do with that as you will.

 

[Mr Blonde]

I found a source saying that the solubility of temazepam in water is 164 mg/L...which is 0.164mg/ml. I think that's pretty good for a benzo.

Also, there's a patent here which says 1 gram of temazepam was dissolved in 30ml of ethanol by heating the mixture to 35C.

I hope that helps...this thread got my interest since temazepam is the only benzo I've tried, got me righteously fucked up too

 

[klowns]

thank you both!! i really apreciate the repleis you gave me. well thought out, well written, and intelligent. i apreciate it. i guesss ill keep you updated on my abuse of these hahhaah. no, i am not going to shoot them. im contemplating snorting them. i dont know. i do know that water soluability has nothign to do with if a drug can be snorted.
hum, yeah i would NEVER inject gel i dont knwo what the fuck those people were thinking ahha. actualy i shoudlnt laugh its sad, cause that caused alot of amputations.
this is however a powder and im wondering if maybe even 30 might be able to dissolve in an amount of water that owuld fit in a rig. i got half inch 1 cc 27 guagers. again not saying i AM going to shoot, BUT, if i find out a safe enough way to do so im not saying i wont either.
i guess i really want to know what dose it might take me oraly to get fucked up. again i take a 2 mg kpin three times a day. though i know that this is a hypnotic, and cross tolerance is NOT complete. humm....well ill let you know how tonight goes! im thinking of starting out with 60 mg tonight
peace

 

[Mr Blonde]

No worries Klowns, I think that you get a pretty bad rap here on BL sometimes

I'm pretty sensitive to basically ALL substances...50mg of temaz got me pretty fucked, 60-70mgs should work for you.

If you're gonna inject, I've heard that in terms of harm reduction it's best to use a ethanol/water mix for your solution...ethanol is supposed to burn like crap being injected though.

 

[Mad Dash]

the main reason i would suggest not snorting these is because of HOW MUCH powder you would have to use. i know this is a bad method b/c in my young days of abuse i would try to snort restoril with no effect. so i thought it was junk. then later in life i tried eating them with a very desireable effect. i would suggest against snorting, but to each his own.

 

[red_eyed_wonda]

i tried to snort part of a fifteen a while back, and was not worth it, couldnt finish the whole thing, and it was in caps, but the powder was extra packed. could not break it up easily, so i just ate em, they hit fast enough, and the oral BA is reallly high, so if i was you i would just eat them. and i just dont like snorting pills.

 

[Mr Blonde]

I don't know how you guys get your Temazepam, but the ones I used here in Australia were tiny little pills...it wouldn't have been much effort for me to snort them. Maybe if I got to around 80mg it would, but like I said, these things were small, the smallest pills I'd ever seen.

 

[Mad Dash]

I don't know how you guys get your Temazepam, but the ones I used here in Australia were tiny little pills...it wouldn't have been much effort for me to snort them. Maybe if I got to around 80mg it would, but like I said, these things were small, the smallest pills I'd ever seen.

we get caplsules filled with VERY fine chalky powder. problem for me is i dont really feel it untill ~ 70-80 mg and thats on a low tolerance. i only need 4 mg alpraz to get pretty fucked up. so snorting that much of this powder would SUCK.

 

[klowns]

ok so here it goes
turns out temazepam is the BEST FUCKING drug in the world, no doubt.
i ended up taking 90 mg, with an extra 2 mg klonopin, a pabst tallboy, and a shot of yeggar.
and by the way i did snort one of the pills right after i swallowed the others and i felt it REALLY fast, so sorry insufflating them DOES WORK as it does with every other benzo i have ever encountered.
however alas, they are packed TIGHTER than fuck!!!!!!! tighter than a 100 pound virgin. i mean damn.
but yeah, it was the most relaxing high i think i have ever had, and i have never slept so good in my life, and im still feeling pretty chill from it.
it say temaz kicks the shit out of xanax. literealy. WAY more euphoric.
is FAR more euphoric than valium (even though i love valium oh so much)
infact, even m ore euphoric than klonopin. holy shit. weve found a winner (ive tried a BUNCH of other benzos, most of them too lame to mention)
this is hands down the best benzo in my opinion. yes you have to take high doses, but shit man it is WORTH IT
jsut my 2 cents but if you can ever get aholld of these youd be a dumbass to turn them down
peace

 

[immaturepoop]

its funny though because temazepam is the only common benzo/hypnotic that has 'euphoria' as a side effect...

 

[Morphinator]

ok so here it goes
turns out temazepam is the BEST FUCKING drug in the world, no doubt.
i ended up taking 90 mg, with an extra 2 mg klonopin, a pabst tallboy, and a shot of yeggar.
and by the way i did snort one of the pills right after i swallowed the others and i felt it REALLY fast, so sorry insufflating them DOES WORK as it does with every other benzo i have ever encountered.
however alas, they are packed TIGHTER than fuck!!!!!!! tighter than a 100 pound virgin. i mean damn.
but yeah, it was the most relaxing high i think i have ever had, and i have never slept so good in my life, and im still feeling pretty chill from it.
it say temaz kicks the shit out of xanax. literealy. WAY more euphoric.
is FAR more euphoric than valium (even though i love valium oh so much)
infact, even m ore euphoric than klonopin. holy shit. weve found a winner (ive tried a BUNCH of other benzos, most of them too lame to mention)
this is hands down the best benzo in my opinion. yes you have to take high doses, but shit man it is WORTH IT
jsut my 2 cents but if you can ever get aholld of these youd be a dumbass to turn them down
peace

klowns, I told you you'd see things my way....

 

[Morphinator]

I've read many times over that temazepam was EASILY injectible (from those capsules in Europe), and not till the media and authorities started on about the ravages of temazepam abuse campaign against the drug and started putting crap in the capsules that made them more dangerous to inject (why ppl started getting amputations; some were soo hooked on temazepam, that they'd continue injecting despite the fact that they lost a leg or an arm). There is a case a person who lost both his legs to temazepam injections, only to start injecting into his eyes, resulting in blindness. That was on benzos.co.uk.

 

[neverstop]

not to highjack but someone recently gave MY FRIEND a few ativan (lorazepam) how do you guys think it compares to temaz or other benzo's (valium xanax etc..)? oh and HE has 4 1mg pills.

 

[Morphinator]

^ IMO, lorazepam is crap!

Temazepam is a trillion times better in everyway than lorazepam.

Valium and Xanax are also much better. Ativan just sucks.

But temazepam is godly, I just love the way it hits at the beginning - fast, hard sedation and complete relaxation. All your worries become non-existent.

As far as shooting it, I think that's a very bad idea. Though many many people do shoot temazepam - especially in Europe and Australia (it's a huge prob here from what I gather - in fact, temazepam is sought in over 85% of all reported benzodiazepine forgeries in Australia. Robbers also frequently demand temazepam in pharmacy robberies (the drug is classified in a schedule separate from other benzos; it's in the same schedule as morphine, methamphetamine, and cocaine) - according to this australian government site.

I don't know about how snorting temazepam would work - i'm sure you'd get high, but I wouldn't know the bioavailability.

Orally, temazepam has a bioavailability of 96% - the highest among ALL benzos. So orally is probably the best way (other than injection, but i do not recommend it).

 

[Morphinator]

And klowns, I told you do not go by the equivalency charts to determine how much you should take. I am on xanax (prescribed). To get a decent "high" from it, I take 7 mg....but I get an even stronger, better buzz from 165-175 mg temazepam.

According to the chart, 7mg alprazolam should equal 280mg temaz, since 0.5 mg of alpraz = 20 mg temaz. Multiply 0.5 by 14 and you get 7 mg, 20 mg by 14 and you get 280. Those charts are rough estimates and they measure anxiolytic action. With the hypnotics its a whole different ball game.

 

[burn out]

for me the chart is pretty accurate, i would say 7 mg alpraz = 280 mg temaz but i like alrpraz more because it doesn't mess with my vision and it has a much nicer body high.

 

[Morphinator]

the chart is not accurate, it is a rough estimate. But it is nice to have a chart just to be able to have an idea.
People are different too, so that has to be taken into account.

I think the chart is 50/50...i don't depend on it to do conversions, to be honest.
For example, diazepam and nitrazepam are "equipotent" 10 mg = 10 mg, yet I take about 115-120 mg of diazepam to get a "desired effect", but only 80-85 mg of nitraz gets even better.

 

[burn out]

i said the chart is pretty accurate for me. if there's one person who knows how differently different people respond to drugs, it is i. i am currently on a crusade to educate bluelight on the matter, because so many people here cannot grasp that simple concept.