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MazDan

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There is not a lot of information available here so please help by telling us about the affects you feel, good, bad, length of come up, come down.............everything that you found from your experience please.
 
piperazines

I have used their McPP, TfMPP and meoPP powders in a mix of 40mg,30mg, 30mg
and it nearly blows your head off.......and it is perfectly legal!!! Be warned though, you'll feel like throwing up during the first 45 minutes but after that unpleasantness i'd say it is a cross between acid and "E". And it's very cheap!!!!


removed link as sources are not permitted here at bluelight however thanks for the info,,, mazdan.
 
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Mmm not a big fan of piperazines, the bad effects by far outweigh the good in my experiences.

The come up is very different to that of mdma and is very gradual in comparison.
I personally feel slightly anxious and nausea is always a problem, to the point where I get sick violently. The sick feeling usually goes away after I have come up completely

When I have hit the peak of the buzz I feel really good. Again I feel nothing like I do when on mdma but its more of a speedy buzz with slight euphoria and increased music appreciation. I generally feel very energetic and chatty.
I also noticed that I only enjoyed talking to close friends and felt paranoid around people I didn't know which is unusual for me

As I get past the peak and start to come down I start to feel the really bad effects of this drug. First of all I start to feel really confused and having to deal with people becomes a really stressful thing to do. My eye sight starts to get very blurry and I start to feel really trippy, in a bad way.

I find it impossible to sleep even tho I'm really tired. This feeling of un-rest and insomnia can go on for 6 or 7 hours and eventually sleep can be achieved.
I've taken piperazines roughly 15 times and the morning after has been hell each time. Most times I get sick up untill 6pm the next day

I havn't taken piperazines for a long time now and have no intentions of doing so in the future. Too much negative side effects
 
only took some once, dont know the mixture, but it was one of the myriad of BZP blends that you can buy in europe (got mine in dublin, for comparisons sake). I found them to be overly jumpy and anxious, like drinking too much coffee after smoking some wack schwag. They are cheap, but the price of E in britain was ridiculously low, so I don't know why you wouldnt just get the real shit.
 
definatly i got major paranoid after taking 2 full bodied smurfs (bzp) didnt enjoy that night at all :/

avoid imo
 
MazDan said:
Would you agree that paranoia is a common side effect?
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very slight paranoia, for me not the whorst part of the experience, the whorst part however is the unpleasant stimulation it gives you, it just sucks, just physical stimulation, i've taken 8 pills once and it was horrible, felt like going down a rollercauster but then a very bad feeling that looks like that

and maybe the funny part, you keep on laughing with everything! haha

they also dont mess up your face like MDMA, mdma makes you feel good on the inside and look bad on the outside, piperazines work the other way around

they also make everything look 'trippy" shadows that look like they are going lighter and darker

impossible to sleep and comedown takes a very long time for me, i still feel the stimulation 10 hours later or even longer

it makes alot friends throw up too, doesnt do that to me, and we usually go sit down in the hall next to the party as piperazines makes the party look way to crazy lol, ahh good times going bad on the XTC with alot of ppl
 
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I've had small amounts of BZP that were mixed into legal highs and weak MDMA pills and in those cases it wasn't too bad, just made me unable to sleep and wasn't really pleasant at all. BZP pills that friends have taken have kept them awake for absolutely ages and had them hallucinating.

I'd had the Sharks of 2006 a few times, they contained mCpp. Any time I did them with people I became flushed, paranoid or at the least - socially akward. I was curled up in a ball one night because I just couldn't deal with any outside stimulus. However I was determined to have a good time with the stuff since I still had some left over, so I did it alone one evening and it didn't seem to last very long.

It was very enjoyable that night, I was just writhing in pleasure uncontrollably, I didn't want it to end. However it did end very abruptly after I inhaled some aerosols and had a nasty hallucination that scared the shite out of me. I've seen mCpp make many people throw up but I've never thrown up myself, but I've never been enjoying the experience enough to take more, except the final time I did it when I only had one dose.

It would be helpful if anyone could say the average dose in one of those sharks!
 
Aye I've read mCpp described as that a lot. They just feel like very dirty drugs to be on. They've put me off pills which is a good thing but now I don't even have an attraction to MDMA because of them.
 
strange, doesnt anyone notice they start laughing on piperazines, this is one thing everyone notices when i see other ppl who have taken suspected piperazine pills?
 
Now that BZP and TFMPP are Schedule I in the US and Class A in the UK, we should be hearing a lot less out of them.

But to answer the question, BZP to me felt like a low dose of amphetamine while TFMPP felt like a variant of trazodone. There was a little euphoria, but these piperazines don't hold a candle to the stimulation of classical amphetamines or the no holds barred euphoria of MDMA.
 
Piperazines have made me feel rather dirty, like no matter what i did to feel clean, it wouldnt take.

I also didnt like the muscle tension from BZP and mcPP
 
Don Luigi said:
I think I'm incapable of laughter when on piperazines.
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Yea pretty much...

I get such violent nausea on piperazines it hurts to think about it.
 
pipes oh ya they suck and they come and hurt your wallet real real quick.... but if you get pipes try to get some tfmpp gives you like laser vision...
 
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