• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

Teens die of DXM overdose

Status
Not open for further replies.

Neocon

Bluelighter
Joined
May 29, 2005
Messages
5
Location
us
http://www.nbc-2.com/Articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=2661&z=3&p=
LEE COUNTY— Dustin Waits knew all three teens involved in Sunday morning's alleged drug overdose. He says he tested out the exact batch of drugs believed to have killed Chris Hundley and Steve Wambolt and put Alex Kulwicki in the hospital.

Nineteen year old Dustin Waits claims he was with Alex Kulwicki and friends last Friday night when the package arrived.

"It was a regular yellow envelope, with a Ziploc bag of 25 g of DXM," said Waits.

DXM is dextromethorphan, a powerful drug with psychedelic effects at high doses. It's found in cold medicines like Coricidin.

Waits says the powder form of DXM was purchased off of a website called Chemical-API and was mailed to Kulwicki's friend Torin Lother in Fort Myers so no one's parents would find it.

When it arrived several of the men tried it.

"I had not done DXM in a while, and it made us all sick," said Waits.

According to police, sometime early Sunday morning, Alex Kulwicki, Chris Hundley and Steve Wambolt overdosed on a drug bought off the internet. Two of those teens died. Police will not say what drug they allegedly used.

Waits was not there that night, but says the three men took DXM. Hundley and Wambolt died and Kulwicki ended up in the hospital.

"We're used to them sitting out on the porch and now there's just three empty chairs," said Waits.

Looking at pictures, poems and music Wambolt made, Lother was unable to speak on camera. He has spoken with detectives.

Waits has been scared straight from using DXM and hopes parents take a closer look into what their kids are doing.

"You never think you could die, until it happens," said Waits.

Wambolt was into music and often wrote guitar riffs. Friends don’t have many pictures of Hundley because he was always the one taking the pictures.

The website where the teens allegedly purchased the drug warns, "This is not a finished pharmaceutical product, but an active ingredient. These products are not intended for human consumption."

Waits and Lother say the teens were aware of the dangers of DXM, but believes they just used too much.
 
So FDA email, its ChemicalAPI in that story and I received an email with everyone who ordered from that site apparently sent out by the FDA and that it was obtained when they seized their records and like eight other emails from people that were on the list. Weird shit. This didnt happen with DC when it got shut down.

If you are a recipient of this e-mail you have been identified as a customer of www.chemicalapi. Chemical API is currently under investigation by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Office of Criminal Investigations and the U.S. Attorney's Office, Indianapolis, IN.



Dextromethorphan sold by Chemical API has been associated with five deaths throughout the United States. You are strongly cautioned not to use this product. As this investigation continues customers of Chemical API may be contacted by criminal investigators.



Additional information about the dangers of Dextromethorphan use and abuse can be found at the following SAMHSA National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information links. <http://store.health.org/catalog/mediaDetails.aspx?ID=371>,

<http://www.family.samhsa.gov/get/otcdrugs.aspx>



The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has published the following warning:







T05-23 Media Inquiries: Bradford Stone

May 20, 2005 301-827-6250

Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA





FDA WARNS AGAINST ABUSE OF DEXTROMETHORPHAN (DXM)



The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is concerned about the abuse of dextromethorphan (DXM), a synthetically produced ingredient found in many over-the-counter (OTC) cough and cold remedies. The agency is working with other health and law enforcement authorities to address this serious issue and warn the public of potential harm, after five recently reported deaths of teenagers that may be associated with the consumption of powdered DXM sold in capsules.

Although DXM, when formulated properly and used in small amounts, can be safely used in cough suppressant medicines, abuse of the drug can cause death as well as other serious adverse events such as brain damage, seizure, loss of consciousness, and irregular heart beat.

DXM abuse, though not a new phenomenon, has developed into a disturbing new trend which involves the sale of pure DXM in powdered form. This pure DXM is often encapsulated by the "dealer" and offered for street use.

DXM has gradually replaced codeine as the most widely used cough suppressant in the United States. It is available OTC in capsule, liquid, liquid gelatin capsule, lozenge, and tablet forms. When ingested at recommended dosage levels, DXM is generally a safe and effective cough suppressant.

Additional information about the dangers of Dextromethorphan use and abuse can be found at the following SAMHSA National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information links. <http://store.health.org/catalog/mediaDetails.aspx?ID=371>,

<http://www.family.samhsa.gov/get/otcdrugs.aspx>


OK, so I have nothing to worry about as Im used to ordering stuff and take the same precautions as Im used to riskier ordering so Im a ghost but others I know didnt. Seems like they are taking online sources a bit more seriously, every online powder site has been shut down.

Five deaths reported in a short period of time from this company and I had a friend spend five days in the hospital from powder from this place after taking 800mg of powder from there BUT that was after he mixed it with alot of alcohol and it was respiratory depression, completely stupid mixing it with alcohol and my other good friend used a gram of the powder from there last night and had a great trip with no absolutely no problems whatsoever. Dont know if there was a bad batch of dxm, no news of that and no word on the toxicology of the kids and if they mixed it with anything else.
 
I don't know about other people's experience but the pure dxm hbr powder I had from another supplier (direct) seemed much more toxic to me than the OTC dxm cough gellcaps. Made me feel very very feverish and confused with little ophoria and some disturbing heavy head/headache at 450mg, I was feeling much more deliriant than dissociated (very unpleasant trip) when OTC dxm hbr makes me feel GREAT (I love it, it's just perfect) at 900mg.
I'm wondering if these suppliers really sell good quality dxm that can compare to the OTC dxm as the pure compound I bought online felt pretty bad (even if it's said to be 99.7% pure and looks pretty pure)
 
The pure DXM that I had worked just fine and had fewer side effects than cough syrup. I took more than a gram several times.

The only time anything bad happened was when I mixed about 1.5 grams with a large dose of ephedra. I ended up in the hospital from that. If I had just used the DXM without the ephedra I probably would have been fine.
 
WOW. Am I glad the government warned me against the dangers of Dextromethorphan, I will never do that horrible drug again. I will also spread the word like gospel about how bad cannabis for you. I mean, each joint is like FIVE cigarettes. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :p
 
Some describe powder as a cleaner spiritual trip, of course taking pure powder you have to mix it with alcohol to dissolve it and PEG to keep it from crashing out of the alcohol in acid in the stomach. Much better absorption and experience. Straight powder trips usually longer and not as pleasurable and you risk overdose b/c you dont feel it as well b/c of the slow absorption leading people to redose too much and too early, then it hits them all at once as the blood serum levels slowly reach levels too high. Plausible scenario if they didnt do their homework on this, of course we dont know that or if they mixed it with other drugs or a contaminant in the powder itself which I doubt b/c my buddy got his powder two weeks before this incident so its prolly the same batch and he had absolutely no probs with it. DXM is my favorite drug so Ill for sure use it again with no worries. And everything is shutdown it appears for powder sources. Its still offered on [edited] but thats not a source, its a scammer with numerous people have been ripped off so dont revert to that for dxm or research chemicals
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This whole story sounds wierd to me. In order for these kids to die from DXM powder they would have had to eaten grams of the stuff. Or they both coincidentally had a liver enzyme defficiency. I wonder what the coroner's reports are going to have to say.
 
i bet it's not a coincidence that both of these were involved with the now defunct r***.

Could you please post a copy of the email you received from the FDA?

-j.
 
SWIm gave a friend a bag of 2 grams of DXM to a group of 4 friends who were shrooming that night with specific instructions to not take more than 1 quater of it each (500mg) with the thought that it was a "legal" trip, this idiot takes the whole bag and swim gets a report 3 days later that the person has not come down. another 3 days and the same thing. Pure powder capsules so easily catch up on you, your having such a good time and why not have some more? before you know it, your going sigma and know your in for a trip that can last days. Thank god they didnt die.

plus ive had some times where 250 mg gave a noticeable effect on me to my friends, where many times that was only enough for a few fun effects.

strange, beautiful, enigmatic drug be dxm
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top