Teen dies playing beer pong with hard liquor

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This happened near me, we have a real bad drinking culture here. It's partly the oil field drug testing and partly a macho "who can drink the most" culture. M3E

Drinking game death of teen leaves family wondering, 'Why?'
Brady Grattan of Fredericton, 18, died in Alberta after playing beer pong using hard liquor

By Shaun Waters, CBC News Posted: Feb 22, 2016 9:03 AM AT Last Updated: Feb 22, 2016 1:47 PM AT


It only took 2½ hours for Brady Grattan to go from being a fun-loving 18-year-old to a young man on life support at a hospital in Grande Prairie, Alta.

Cory and Tracey Grattan of Fredericton want to ensure the story of their son's death on Feb. 4 after a drinking game — called beer pong — is known by as many people as possible, so it doesn't happen to any other family.

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Brady graduated from Leo Hayes High School in 2015 and moved to Grande Prairie last July to pursue his dream of becoming a licensed welder. His grandmother lived in the Alberta town, so he had a place to stay.

One morning in early February, the phone rang at his parents' home in Fredericton.
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Brady Grattan graduated from Leo Hayes High School in Fredericton in 2015. (Submitted by Grattan family)

"It was about four o'clock in the morning and I knew," said Cory Grattan.

"I knew something was wrong because we don't get a phone call at that time in the morning. Something happened in my spirit. I just knew something was wrong."

His mother-in-law was on the line from Grand Prairie. Brady was in the hospital in intensive care.

"Everything's kind of a blur," Grattan remembers.

"Time just sort of stopped for a minute. It was just like, this wasn't real. I'm dreaming and I'm going to wake up."

Ten minutes later, he had the number for the doctor and he was calling the hospital in Grande Prairie to ask about Brady and what had happened.

"And the doctor got on the phone with me and told me exactly what was going on — that Brady had been found unconscious at a party, and um, they didn't really have the details," Grattan said.

"They wanted to, they were going to put him in hypothermia state, cool his body and then wake him up over 24 hours and I was hopeful."

Grattan couldn't imagine what had taken place at the party and told his wife to pray for the best.

"I was saying, 'OK, he's going to learn from this bad experience, he's going to wake up, everything's going to be fine.'"

Grattan said he was consumed by one thought. They had to get to their son's bedside as quickly as possible.

The timing of the incident couldn't have been worse. There had been a snowstorm and airline officials told the Grattans that all flights going west were grounded. The only flight they could catch was 24 hours later.
'You have to get here'

Grattan called a friend in Alberta and asked him to go to the hospital and check on his son.
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Brady Grattan with parents Tracey and Cory at his graduation from Leo Hayes High School. (Submitted by Grattan family)
"I was hoping that Jeff would go to the hospital and say, 'Oh yeah, you know, Brady's fine you know, he's going to [be OK]

.'

"But that didn't happen."

Jeff phoned back about an hour later with a chilling message.

"He said, `You have to get here, you have to get to Alberta as fast as you can.'"​
Beer pong

As they spoke to more people, more details about what happened came out.

Brady had been found unconscious in the basement of a home where a group of young people had been playing beer pong, which involves teams of two and cups filled with beer.

The object of the game is to take turns throwing a ping pong ball into the other team's cups. If your ping pong ball lands in a cup, your opponent has to guzzle the beer.

The object of the game is to sink all your balls and get the other team drunk as quickly as possible and win the game.
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Tracey Grattan's last photograph with her son Brady, taken at Christmas. (Submitted by Grattan family)

But Grattan discovered the game their son participated in that night involved something riskier.

"They were using hard alcohol. Brady was texting somebody at about 10 that night. He was in hospital in the ICU at about 12:45 a.m," Grattan said.

Grattan said that between 10 p.m. and 12:45 a.m., he would have gone into his vehicle, driven to the party and consumed an "incredible amount of alcohol really fast."

"The ambulance was called. They came. They revived him, they took him to the hospital. He flat-lined on the way there, then they revived him again," Grattan said.


"So all of this happened in like a two-hour span, consuming that much alcohol and ending up in ICU."

Grattan said that even worse, he has learned that drinking games are becoming pretty much part of the party scene for gatherings of young people.

"I beat myself against the wall, wondering, you know, 'What are they doing in so little time to make all of this happen?'" Grattan said.

"We're getting Facebook messages and text messages from people who know people, and the stories are coming out that these kids are mixing Red Bull, they're mixing energy drinks, they're mixing hard liquor, anything to get a quick fix. And drugs. They're adding drugs to this too."
'A whole new game now'

"So it's a whole new game now, and it's a dangerous game. It's a deadly game and I'd just like to bring awareness to people because you don't think it can happen to you?" Grattan said.

"I never imagined that it could happen to us."

Grattan said that if one young person decides not to take part in a drinking game because of what happened to his son, telling his story is worth it to the family.

The Grattans are even sharing the most intimate details of their experience to drive home their message.​

Tracey Grattan said senseless is the only way to describe what happened to her son Brady.

She hopes his death helps other teenagers get the message about binge drinking and drinking games.

"Don't play them," she said.

"Be smart. I mean, don't make your parents go through this. Don't make anyone go through this."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brady-grattan-drinking-game-death-1.3458093
 
Well it sounds like at least the kids called an ambulance in a reasonable time span.
So often kids die because no one called anyone because they were afraid of getting in trouble (same goes for drug overdoses) when they could have been saved. However this guys BAC must have been through the roof and he never had a chance.
Scary the way things progress. I remember playing it with a mixture of stuff (not in the same cups of course, just as a variety instead of only beer) like wine or margaritas or small amounts of other mixed drinks in my younger days but it really wasn't much different than the beer because the alcohol content was about the same and your cups are really only supposed to be filled up about 1/4 of the way.
 
When I first read the title my first thought was "This sounds like something that would happen in Grande Prairie"
I grew up very near that city as well and have first hand experience with the irresponsible fashion in which people drink there, my hometown was certainly no exception.
In fact a kid from my graduating class passed away not long after moving to Grande Prairie from an alcohol-related incident, such a horrible drug.
It's also worth mentioning that meth, heroin, impaired driving, and violent crime rates in Grande Prairie are extraordinarily high compared to any other Albertan city
 
Alcohol: maybe the most damaging drug, on a societal level as well as an individual level.
Yet legal and encouraged.
People think you are cool if you drink whiskey on the rocks or know a lot about wine.
If you take your heroin mixed with speed, or have encyclopedic knowledge of DXM, however, most will only think you are a bad person.
Despite the fact that heroin and DXM are probably safer than alcohol.
 
Very sad. I just dont get why people do things like this. I guess now than I am older, I realize how stupid trying to be a cocky "bro" really is. I am not trying to drag this poor kids name through the mud, as I have done a ton of stupid shit too, but with so much information available today, I am sure most everyone realizes the dangers of alcohol in excess.

And yeah, heroin better than booze? Nah. Most people drink relatively responsibly, but there are far greater percentage of heroin users who could not care less of the consequences.

We agree on something, Mel. Who should we call? :)
 
But aren't the dangers of heroin you're pointing out at least mostly artifacts of prohibition? "lucky enough to get the right stuff" "could not care less about the consequences" don't sound like things someone would say about regulated recreational drugs.

Honestly it's hard to feel bad. If he didn know that guzzling liquor is dangerous than what's the likelihood that he drives drunk and puts other people at danger? Tbh, better the drinker dead than some innocent victim on the road. I mean, better nobody dead but Darwin always wins.
 
But aren't the dangers of heroin you're pointing out at least mostly artifacts of prohibition? "lucky enough to get the right stuff" "could not care less about the consequences" don't sound like things someone would say about regulated recreational drugs.

Honestly it's hard to feel bad. If he didn know that guzzling liquor is dangerous than what's the likelihood that he drives drunk and puts other people at danger? Tbh, better the drinker dead than some innocent victim on the road. I mean, better nobody dead but Darwin always wins.

Yeah that's where my beef is too. That the prohibition of most "street" drugs has led to problems with adulterants, fluctuating levels of purity, and having to commit what is technically a crime in order to obtain one's psychoactive of choice.

Here in Australia, after dozens of alcohol-related deaths and wave after wave of alcohol-related violence (resulting in injury or death), there's finally a shift in thinking happening where people are saying "hey, maybe alcohol is consumed far too much and by people with far too little experience".

I would get so much crap from the average Australian for saying this but I think we should follow America's lead and raise the legal drinking age to 21.

Quick question - in the United States is that drinking age rule, being 21, a federal thing or do some states have a lower age limit for drinking?

Peace :)
 
But aren't the dangers of heroin you're pointing out at least mostly artifacts of prohibition? "lucky enough to get the right stuff" "could not care less about the consequences" don't sound like things someone would say about regulated recreational drugs.

Honestly it's hard to feel bad. If he didn know that guzzling liquor is dangerous than what's the likelihood that he drives drunk and puts other people at danger? Tbh, better the drinker dead than some innocent victim on the road. I mean, better nobody dead but Darwin always wins.

Sure, but that is the world we live in. I have nothing against heroin users or any drug users for that matter. But the facts remain that because of its illegal status there are no checks on heroin's purity and many more heroin users are depedent on it compared to users of alcohol and unfortunately will do some very risky things to get their fix.

If heroin was legal, I would feel differently, but it is not so I stand by my statement.
 
We agree on something, Mel. Who should we call? :)

Yo mama ;)

But aren't the dangers of heroin you're pointing out at least mostly artifacts of prohibition? "lucky enough to get the right stuff" "could not care less about the consequences" don't sound like things someone would say about regulated recreational drugs.

"Lucky to get the right stuff" was in regards to heroin being safer than alcohol in terms of toxicity. I did not point out any of the other dangers associated with heroin use, or go into detail as to why I do not agree that heroin is safer than alcohol overall.

Alcohol is legal, and a lot of alcoholics are past the point where they are able to care about the consequences - it's not due to prohibition. Why do you feel that this would be different if heroin was a regulated drug?

Legal or not - if I had a teenage kid, I'd sure as hell prefer them to go to the pub and have a few drinks with their friends rather than sit at some house and do smack. There are many reasons I feel this way and I'm sure a lot of them are obvious, but I think that's a discussion for another thread.
 
Quick question - in the United States is that drinking age rule, being 21, a federal thing or do some states have a lower age limit for drinking?

It's technically done by state but that Nazi Reagan threatened states with removal of highway funds if they didn't raise it. So federal blackmail for state "law."

Legal or not - if I had a teenage kid, I'd sure as hell prefer them to go to the pub and have a few drinks with their friends rather than sit at some house and do smack. There are many reasons I feel this way and I'm sure a lot of them are obvious, but I think that's a discussion for another thread.

If I had a kid I'd rather they smoked weed.
 
Our lives could be much easier when people realize ethanol abuse wrecks brain chemistry worse than classical psychedelics and most other drugs. Our drug warriors spent years convincing society ethanol was acceptable and other most other recreational drugs couldn't get consumed safely. The drug warriors fooled themselves, our politicians, and the next generations of drug warriors. Now the foundation of modern anti recreational drug stigma is old lies. This is the problem with censorship and propaganda. After multiple generations the censors, propagandist, and politicians make decisions based on the lies of the previous generations.

If this sequence continues until people can't remember the truth, then our leaders create public policy based on misinformation. Public policies built on misinformation fail. Observe the War on Drugs, observe mass incarceration. In the future observe how these failed public policies influence the reputation of Americans (including me and my family I love) and our country.

If people had rational perspectives on the potential harms and benefits of alcohol and other drugs perhaps this person could have avoided dying.
 
Alcohol is a relatively simple molecule and one that our brains have had thousands and thousands of years to adjust to the presence of. This is why moderate recreational drinking has less harms asssociated with it than most other drugs of abuse. Of course, these rules are totally reversed when use turns to abuse, at which point its one of the most toxic drugs yo0u could possibly take.
 
This is why moderate recreational drinking has less harms asssociated with it than most other drugs of abuse.

I disagree. Even though ethanol is rather non-toxic compared to other solvents, it is still a lot more toxic than most drugs. There are many classes of drugs that are pretty much completely harmless if done "moderately", non-daily.
 
^ How did you obtain this opinion? Does this also apply with other drugs with extended histories of human consumption such as cannabis, opium, and tobacco? My knowledge is the evolutionary adaptations you suggest require most people drink recreational quantities of ethanol regularly and those adaptations take longer than several dozen generations.

Pure ethanol is inherently toxic and rather crude. Intoxication requires large doses and the drug has an abnormally low therapeutic index. Ethanol also has significant abuse potential and the withdrawals are potentially fatal. I admit using ethanol responsibly is possible and that some people benefit from moderate consumption. Personally I have a variety of safer drug options and ethanol is something I never use.

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My knowledge is the evolutionary adaptations you suggest require almost every person drink recreational quantities of ethanol regularly and those adaptations take longer than several dozen generations.

That is correct, that's how evolution works. This is why we are able to tolerate small amounts of ethanol, because the bacteria in our gut produce ethanol in small quantities - in all humans - and have done so for a very long time. However, such principles do not apply to the recreational use of ethanol, evolution happens on a much larger timescale than the total history of recreational ethanol consumption (which is, in evolutionary terms, a very new phenomenon).
 
I think the worst thing about alcohol is you can continue to function after blacking out, I've drank whole bottles while in a black out but if I shoot to much heroin I'm going to pass out and sleep until it wears off
 
It appears on that graph that they don't make the distinction that the harm to others more than likely comes from a host of sources. With ethanol violence comes, with heroin property crime comes. If heroin were legal and regulated would there be less property crime?
 
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