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Opioids Tapering Poppy Pods, anyone with me, been there?

So I was forced in to a jump on thursday night. I took some pod tea, and then was going to get on sub maybe 48 hours after...

That said, I was terrified of going in to precipitated w/d from the sub, so I dealt with the withdrawals until now. From about 24-48 hours it felt like hell - couldnt sit still, sweat through 4 shirts, cold as hell...but no significant diarrhea or vomiting.

It's now close to 60 hours since my last dose, and although I keep getting cold sweats on and off and some very mild pain in my leg muscles, I feel ok. I'm wondering, has anyone who has gone through pod w/d had something like this? I assume it's playing a bad trick on me, but ever since I woke up I feel significantly better (woke up being a relative term...never slept for more than 20 minutes at a time...).

Anyway, if someone could respond if they have had something similar? I thought w/ds got worse with time, not bad then suddenly better. Only time will tell, but I definitely feel better at the moment so I am trying to hold on to it as long as possible.
 
Well, the good news is I still feel ok and am pod free now for 3 and a half days....which I know is nothing. The cravings are intense, but major w/d only lasted about 48 hours which is a miracle in my eyes. I am faced with MAJOR cravings right now and it's just so hard.
 
Ive been making very good progress this last few weeks. Down to just 11g of tea in the morning, and in the evening im taking ah7921, and reducing that by 25 or 15 mg a day. Currently on 260 mg of AH. Thing is ive developed a fuckin horrendous tremor over the last week or so. As i also take etizolam (dose is stable to increasing) , im not sure which of the components is most likely to be causing this embarrasing affliction (stress makes it much worse, so that i cant do anything like take a card out of a wallet at a till checkout). Did anyone who's quit pods get the tremors along the way ?

Are they dangerous, or just a passing affliction that should clear once my body adjusts to less opis ?
 
Mdb- awesome to hear buddy! Keep pushing, you will get through it. I'm actually on day 4 cold turkey, and with the help of some clonazepam, clonodine, and various herbs (valerian (copious amounts), 5htp once per day, and 2 multivitamins), I actually feel pretty normal. Surprisingly wd only lasted about 60 hours, and while it was the hardest thing I have ever gone through, I got it much easier than others since I did not vomit or have significant bowel problems. However the rest of it is Fullll force for about 2 days.

Anyway, I never took the sub, and now I never plan on taking it. I'm going one goal at a time, but my first goal is clean til Christmas, then til my next appt with my doc in January, then who knows! All I know is the best thing I did today was spend all the money that would have gone towards pods on Christmas gifts for others - it stops me from buying, and also it felt good getting someone more than they would expect for Christmas.

So, PNM you have been an inspiration to me, and even though we haven't had a ton of back and forth your positive attitude has stuck with me, and in the worst parts of my post w/d cravings I read your words "slave to a dried plant man, no more" and it just gave me an extra boost. Love you dude!

Also, MDB, keep fighting - you are way down, and while I don't know how long or how much you had been using, if you want any tips for making it through the jump let me know. It takes extreme will power, but I also unintentionally fucked myself in to no options which even during cravings where I would scream out and punch the couch, I still had to deal with the fact that I had no hookup. Let me know if you ever need support - you pointed me to this thread and even though I am only about 5 days out of the woods, it has changed my life - I owe a lot to you :)
 
Drug buddy - forgot to mention, I got MAJOR tremors while in wd for a bit. They went away but after the major part of wd. I also didn't taper, although that was my initial intent. Pods where I get them are out of stock, so should be pretty easy to stay off til at least til Christmas...now I just have to figure out what to do with these 8mg sub strips, I have 8 of them but know nobody who could benefit from them...is there someplace I can legally "sell" them or donate them?
 
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Hey Pod Freak, I'm on maintenance. It's working wonders for me. But I understand if you want to get totally clean.
 
Art - good deal. I was so scared of p/w that I ended up soldiering through the withdrawal symptoms until it was over... Im now on day 5 and I feel almost completely normal with a low dose of clonazepam 2 times daily. im thinking once I get to day 7 or 8 im going to try to limit it to only times when I can;t take the anxiety anymore, and then go from there. Still having a little insomnia, but got a couple 4 hour blocks of sleep which - after 4 straight days of NO sleep whatsoever, was a godsend.

I'm happy it's doing good for you - I still have my sub (15mg strips) and I want to donate them somewhere..I feel like they could help someone in need who would use them like they should be (like you) - but the last thing I want to do is give them to someone just wanting an opi high.

All I know is it's only day 5 and I feel like a new man. bags under my eyes, while still visible are subsiding, and as long as I keep uber busy, that in combo with the klonopin is keeping the cravings down completely. Thanks a lot for your encouragement!
 
Sorry PF, my last visit here was a flying visit, i just made my post and didnt have time to read any others. Sounds like you're doing great man. Through the worst by now (possibly) Im glad i could help you by giving you the link to this thread. My use has come down from a peak of 90 g per day to 11g in the morning and 260 mg of potentiated AH7921 (80 % the strength of morphine) in the evening. The tremor was slightly better today. If i keep all my fingers tightly together there's hardly any tremor, but if i move the fingers up and down seperately im still fucked. Im gonna stabilise on my current dose for a while, and if the tremor hasnt gone in a week/10 days going see docs.
 
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^-- Yea prob a good idea, the doc is always your best bet for weird ass symptoms like that, but I do know tremors are even on the COWS scale, so it's definitely a possibility its from w/d. I always wonder what happens with your immune system during w/d....Is it weakened? If so, I wonder how many people's w/d process is compounded by a sickness contracted during....probably not much haha but whatever interesting thought..
 
ArtVandalay said:
Hey Pod Freak, I'm on maintenance. It's working wonders for me. But I understand if you want to get totally clean.
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For sure! I was damn close to taking them, and it would have been a much less stressful maintence than the ridiculous pod prices, preparation, and availability issues. Plus you can travel with the subs...if I got back on, it was going to be on subs so I at least wasnt killing my family anymore - which sounds like worked out great for you!

Thanks for the tips tho - I took everyone's advice and ended up making my own decision, which so far has turned out pretty good :-). That said its only day 6, but fuck day 6 feels like an ETERNITY
 
Right, i'm off the pods (few days clear) , and down to 85mg ah7921. Not sure yet if ill take that decrease sklow or frast. I just wanna get over tis shit

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Anorgasmia is improving, so its nice to b able to once again have a little play and spray now and then again. I dont think the ah taper will be too bad physically. I dont think it will be worse than odt.I was better by day 3 of odt.


I thinnk the SLO SLOW taper has made it easy so far. Litterly ive only had a few seconds of flue symptoms and tiredness withdrawls symptom throughpout..

I'm Weeping all the time now thou. (and this IS A GREAT thing for me, i think im hitting PAWS, weeping is far preferreable to the hours of numb hollow empty depression i went through last time i got off opis, and which drove me straight back into opis within about 2 days.. Every morning this week ive hat a huge big wrenching weeping session and loved it)

dont know, that bad PAWS may still be waitng for me again though. Ive got tons of profesional support this time though. And my brain must be swimming in sertaline, im surprised i cant hear it squishing around when i move my head.

An addiction to opiates was not something i wanted to experience and to be bound by I went further down the road that i ever intended. DRUG/LIFE/WORK/BALANCE INIT. AND IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE IN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP YOU ARE FUCKIN BLESSED. I got burned. Loved the odt.

Got fuckin benzos and stims to give up next.

think ill tell them to give me a break,
 
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Guys, using poppy seed tea, and pods, is dangerous as you dont know the dose you are getting. You are much better off extracting them, its very easy, i have a thread here somewhere on the method. This is harm reduction, cos its a hell of a lot safer to extract either opium or even morphine and KNOW how much your getting!!
 
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Seriously, no one out there wondering wtf to do with all the shortages and no pods? TG I'm on my taper. How are all you pod connoisseurs out there, or just pod ingesters. I know I run the gamut. I suppose I had the naive idea that I'd start this this thread and find a few people in my shoes. That's what the web does, eh, hook up people who are similar enough to need to talk but live all over the globe? Help me through this please!?
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Guys, its a hell of a lot safer to extract your pods to opium or morphine..EASILY, and KNOW what dose your getting. I have a thread here somewhere on the method:/
 
Not sure what was removed from from my previous post or for what reason. But anyway, i complted by taper on AH about 3 days ago. So totally opiate free now.. Free of those chains that bound us.It was also a very smooth landing. Small steps ALLTHE WAY. FUCKIN PAINLESS I TELLS YA.

all im feeling is the absence of the background after glow that ah must have been giving me. Come on, endorphins, wake up, i need you again now.

To Podsnomo thanks for your knowledge, expereince, help, and most importantly encouragement and support.

On a far sadder note, a 20 yr lad i had exchanged afew msgs with on here OD'd and died abt a mont ago. I tried to 'pay forward' what you had done for me PNM. As he was deeep into etizolam, as was i, and still am. Cant be sure if that was the reason, but i suspect it was at least a factor.

RIP XAMKOU - to me you were something of a legend on internet forus.
 
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