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Tapering off Oxycodone

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Well for a few years now my fiancé and I have been doin oxycodone(recreationally). It's destroyed our lives and after the holidays we are stopping. We've tried before several times and have even been to a detox facility but we were kinda forced to go so we started back as soon as we got out because we weren't ready to quit. Her detox facility had her on methadone and mine had me on Clonodine(let's just say this was the worst thing they cold give me for W/Ds. It did not help at all).

I wondering how we should go about tapering off them. But first, here is a history of our use. We usually get 1 30mg Oxycodone a day and split it, so 15mg each. We usually only do one a day on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and some times a couple days durring the week(Monday-Thursday). Some times on the weekend we'll get one 30mg each but that rarely happens and is usually only one day on the weekend. So really we're not doing as much as most people but it's only because our money is gone by Monday. Some times we miraculously get money for a couple days durring the week.

W/Ds are still hell and usually start the next night after my last intake. I'm not really sure about her but for me, the only bad symptoms I get are an upset stomach that has me running to the bathroom a lot, not being able to sleep(insomnia?) and REALLY REALLY bad RLS. The RLS is what breaks me every time. Usually by the 2nd day I just can't stand it anymore and have to find a way to get my fix, usually pawning my stuff but I've ran out of stuff to sell. If I could get something to take the RLS away than I would be fine and i could get through W/Ds much easier. But nothing works. They had me on muscle relaxers at detox but that didn't work. The only thing I found that works is hot baths with muscle soothing bath salts. But as everyone knows this only works while your in the water and for a few minutes afterwards.

Anyways, once the holidays are over than we're stopping and we're thinking of getting a couple subutex from our dealer to last us a few days cuz for me, I don't withdraw but for maybe a week(well at least by this time the symptoms are very light) so I think if we could taper down then take the subutex that we should be able to kick this. But I've never taken subs and don't exactly know how they work. I've heard if you don't do them right than it'll send you into immediate W/Ds. We'll also be smoking bud but that's nothing new. We've been smoking for a long time and id much rather smoke than do pills anyways. Smoking helps a little but doesn't really take symptoms away, it's more like it distracts me from them.

So how do you guys think we should taper and when should we take the subs? I wanna do this right cuz it's time for us to stop and get our life on track. We've had our fun but now it's not. When it's the weekend, I dread the week days to come because I know I'm gonna W/D and I'm tired of feeling like s*** and tired of being scared. We snort them but my fiancé has recently tried shooting them and I don't want it to go any further and I don't want her to continue shooting because that's when it really drags you down.

I always told myself I would stop once my tolerance got above 15mg but like I said, I hardly ever do more than that in a single day and I told myself that like a year and a half ago.

Oh and I'm not sure how the tapering will work beause money is very tight. I'm jobless right now and my fiancé works a serving job and usually only make enough for one 30mg oxy each day she works since it's the cold season and people aren't really coming out to eat anymore. She works Fri-Sun and maybe one day durring the week(usually Tuesday or Wednesday) So the tapering might work but we will definitely be getting the subs. But we won't keep using them. We're only gonna get a couple and no more because I've heard W/Ds from subs are even worse.

Any help is greatly appreciated. We're ready to stop this and move on. It's destroyed our lives for the past 3 years and I'm just done with it.
 
First, i wouldnt taper with sub. Either way youre going to have withdrawals as soon as the sub is out of your system. You guys are at such a low dose that this should be fairly easy as long as your serious about gettin clean and staying clean. Also, its tough to be in a relationship when the two in the relationships are addicts. Its really easy to get mixed up in old bad habits because of a significant other. I recommend going to a 12 step program, and just deal with the wds cold turkey. Just remember, it could be way worse
 
Man 15mg a day is nothing and that's a good thing. Of ourse Subs will help as will Methadone but since your dose is low Methadone and Subs are waaay stronger than 15mgs of Oxy. You can try to start taking half of a 15 for a while and then try jumping off of that. If you go down the Sub route yoi don't need much of it at all. You can probably take anywhere from .5mgs to 1mg and slowly start cutting down from there. Make sure you don't have Oxy in your system when you take Subs. You'll want to kill yourself if you go into precipiyated WDs.
 
I kind of agree with mrtlo91, it's might be difficult being in a relationship and quitting but not impossible. Some people say quitting smoking is hard, but it's not imho, detoxing is hard.

Not sure if you were spacing out those 15mg each, but when you taper maybe only do it once a day to sleep and then eventually none.
 
at 15mg a day the wds are gonna be easy as pie i've jumped off at 300mg a day and it was bearable
 
If you want to taper consider going down to vicodin or percs and take enough to just get you normal. Than slowly decrease. You can decrease at your own pace but if you get uncomfortable or a bit of withdraw dont eat a whole nother pill just do a little to wear you aint withdrawing. When you get down to 5mg jump off.

I agree what others have said 15mg a day is a very low tolerance and you could jump off rite now.

Also since you dont work you can stay in bed. I suggest you take some Somas. They help with RLS and that should stop that and you should be good. Since you fiance works, she can do the taper or quit cold turkey monday. If she has work midweek, she can take a vicodin to get through the day and ride it out for the week until the weekend to take a little bit there too. Eventually she will jump off w/ a lil discomfort but enough to be able to work and sence work is slow it wont be as demanding.
 
Yeah I know 15mg isn't much but like I said, ive been doing them for like 4 yrs and the W/Ds are atill hell. The longest I've ever went without any is like 5 days and that was cuz I was in a detox facility. But my girlfriend wants to quit too and I mean I'm gonna do everything I can to help her too. Cuz I've been with her for 6 years, and we have a 5yr old daughter together so I'm not gonna leave her just so I can stop these. I think it could actually help us, we could give each other support and stuff like that. And yeah if I take the sub strips than I would only do like 1/3 of a strip at a time.

@minus - lately we've kinda been spacing it out. My girl friend usually works Friday-Sunday and then maybe one day during the week. So we'll get one 30mg on Friday Saturday and Sunday, sometimes we ' get one each like on Fridays. And then let's say she doesn't work again til Wednesday, we won't get anything on Monday and Tuesday. Then get one Wednesday to split and then we won't get another til Friday. So it's kinda spaced out. But I usually start feeling W/Ds the next morning and by the second night, my legs tingle and hurt so much that I just can't stand it anymore. If I didn't get RLS than id probably already be off these things. RLS will break me every time.

Thanks for the help everyone, I really appreciate it.
 
So you've been taking 30mg/day roughly right? Split it up in divided doses throughout the day, say 7.5mg every 4-6 hrs. that will make your body get used to a lower dose, then after a few days stop taking one of them, 3/day instead of 4, then after a few day drop again and so on. I had major surgery a few years ago and was on an extremely high dose for several months and that is what my doctors had me do and there was very little discomfort. For the insomnia you could try doxylamine succinate (antihistamine), it's the strongest OTC sleep aid you can get and studies have shown that its sedative quantities are equal to phenobarbital and its not addictive.
 
Given the low dose, I would personally obtain an herb called kratom. It originates from Southeast Asia and is the perfect remedy for a mild opiate dependence. Google it or search this site, plenty of info on it. I prefer to detox with kratom if the habit is not too large. My experience with subs resulted in a longer detox period vs kratom. I would also obtain loperamide for gastro symptoms. Best of luck. Kicking the habit is as much a mindfuck as it is physical. Get yourself prepared mentally and you will b good to go. U can do this!!!
 
jesus fucking christ I am sorry for you guys :( I wish it was easier.. over a year time I developed a tolerance in excess of 500 mgs oxy.. and yet I get no physical wds.. I just crave it, and I space out my doses to every week or every other week, I guess thats how I managed to not get physical wds.. My best advice is just cold turkey, Im a true believer in (IF YOUR FINALLY AND TRUTHFULLY READY AND WILLING TO QUIT) you can do it cold turkey, spend the next 5-10 days paying the price of your abuse and after that your at the end of the dark tunnel :) as long as u guys are ready to quit that is all you need with you
 
I would just do it cold turkey but like I said before, the RLS is like nothing over ever experience before. After the 2 day mark I feel like I'm about to go insane and that's why it breaks me every time I try to quit. Baths only work for a little bit, muscle relaxers don't do anything but make it feel worse. I'm not go a take anything to get me to sleep. I'll just smoke a bowl cuz if I take a sleeping aid it makes my legs feel worse when I wake up. I can handle everything but the RLS. That's my biggest obstacle.

@jjj678 no I only do 30mg like one time on the weekend but so far for this weekend I've done 3 or 4 30mg's myself already. I snort them but have recently smoked a couple. I'm not one to smoke pills, I think it's a waste but since I got one for a friend he shared it with me. Other than that I only do 15mg. My gf and I split a 30mg. At $40 a piece there is no way I'm spending that for multiple ones. And usually we only get a couple durrin the week. My highest intake is always on the weekend
 
I've heard of Kratom but haven't yet tried it for opiate withdrawls, according to some people though - it does work.

When I came off the AcetylFentanyl I also had a bit of MXE which also does wonders for pain relief but don't remember having withdrawls at all from either of those two RC's.
 
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