ebeneezer_geeza
Bluelighter
ok so have any of you ppl managed to taper yourself off opiates. In that you were on a high dose and managed to wean yourself down to zero. If so, what were you using, strenght, and how long did it take you?
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Tapering off Opiates
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Partykid12
Bluelighter
I was using a fair amount of Hydrocodone per day for a year. My source ran out so I was forced to quit.. I used Xanax(2-4mg every 5 hours), Immodium AD, and Aleve for about 4 days and then just dealt with the damn mental shit....
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Thurgood
Bluelighter
Unless you're on an outrageously high dose I think the best method is just doing it cold turkey. This advice is coming from many failed attempts using other methods. The problem I found everytime I tried to taper off (from heroin) is that I would go buy lets say 6 bags (at the peak I was probably at like 3-5 bags a day) and say, "ok these will last at least a week or maybe two." But who are you kidding, once you do "just enough to not get sick" you'll wanna do "just a little bit more, enough to feel it just a little more" and before you know it you'll be doing it just like you were.
That's just my personal experience, if you're a very well disciplined person, tapering may work. Or another alternative, is to have a friend give you the drug and NO MORE than that everyday if you wanna give it a shot. The thing is for me, when I used this approach I would get my half a bag or whatever from my friend everyday but it wouldn't matter cuz I would have already gone and bought a few earlier.
It's a pretty tough thing to get through, but give it a few weeks and you should be improving dramatically. Good luck man!
P.S. When I say cold turkey I'm just referring to using the drug you're on to wean off. I still think that the methods partykid listed to help assist your withdrawl are essential. Especially the Immodium AD (works great for some), Ibuprofen (or Sodium Naproxum, sp?) is really good too for the muscle aches, and i'm sure you know what benzos do (if that's all you can get for sleeping, that's still good, but try to look for something like trazadone or seroquel sp?)...
[ 04 March 2003: Message edited by: Thurgood ]
That's just my personal experience, if you're a very well disciplined person, tapering may work. Or another alternative, is to have a friend give you the drug and NO MORE than that everyday if you wanna give it a shot. The thing is for me, when I used this approach I would get my half a bag or whatever from my friend everyday but it wouldn't matter cuz I would have already gone and bought a few earlier.
It's a pretty tough thing to get through, but give it a few weeks and you should be improving dramatically. Good luck man!
P.S. When I say cold turkey I'm just referring to using the drug you're on to wean off. I still think that the methods partykid listed to help assist your withdrawl are essential. Especially the Immodium AD (works great for some), Ibuprofen (or Sodium Naproxum, sp?) is really good too for the muscle aches, and i'm sure you know what benzos do (if that's all you can get for sleeping, that's still good, but try to look for something like trazadone or seroquel sp?)...
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Dr. Dopenstein
Bluelighter
I agree with the fellow "Bluelighters" If your going thru withdrawl "Cold Turkey" and you want your pain experience to go from a 10 to a 3 on the pain meter you must have the following: Immodium AD(Liquid only)Immodium is a mild opiate that helps with diahrea and vomiting.I know,I know,it dosen't cross the brain barrier,but it helps alot of people. Trazadone,a must for sleep,Xanax,a must for that creepy crawly, Anxious feeling,Flexeril, a muscle relaxer for leg and stomach cramps and finally alot of water for deydration. If you have these drugs,your on your way to beating the physical hell,but lurking for you in the shadows is the psychological craving,which is a monster to beat! Good Luck
ebeneezer_geeza
Bluelighter
Thurgood - totally agree. The only opiate i can taper ok is subutex. its a wonder drug when it comes to wd's but you still get the chills and moody-ness. In fact in a way its too good. U dont feel that much pain - so in a way when your clean its easier to re-use. I wish i could have the self discipline that i used to have - ahhh. then i could taper.
I'm also in agreement with Thurgood on the tapering issue. Whenever I tried to taper my heroin usage, I ended up using more than I normally would just getting high because I would do small amount every few hours instead of one big shot a couple times a day. Go cold turkey unless you can have someone ration out to you. Someone that isn't in the same position as you, preferably.