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Talc in lungs from 4 weeks use? Oxymorphone IR Opana

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Needles3401

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3 days ago I woke up in the middle of the night with an uneasy feeling that I wasn't breathing right. I had been taking oxymorphone, Roxane generic, 5mg for 30 days. I have crushed up and snort approximately 120 pills. I decided to go to the ER and came clean with the dr. He said that I could develop talc lung. He did blood tests (white blood cell, d-dimer, ect) and gave me a chest x ray. Everything came back negative. He sent me home with an inhaler and told me to take robutussin to hack everything up. I want to know if you guys think this is psychological or I actually might have powder in my lungs causing problems. I vow never to snort anything again. I'm very worried that the fillers, especially microcrystalline cellulose is in my lungs causing me problems. My symptoms only started 3 days ago. I want to say my quality of breathing is better now. Do you think that I was experiencing inflammation, and that was the cause? Let me reiterate that ive only done this for 4 weeks, 3-4 pills a day. Opana doesn't work well orally so that is why I started doing this. I have no prior history of abusing a drug in this way.
 
I've used oxymorph intra-nasaly at doses as high as 120mg per day for months on end and have never developed any issues with my lungs. during those periods, I was playing basketball as well as weightlifting competitively. I've heard of those issues before and have heard some stories of lung infections, but have never witnessed any first hand from myself or friends using.

Everyone's body is different though. I believe what you doctor said could very well be a possibility, as is with insufflating most drugs not meant for insufflation.
 
Thanks for the reply ferox. I am feeling a little better now that I have stopped doing it. I still can't feel what I'd call a fully saturated breath, but its not quite as alarming. I still plan on stopping. I also might be experiencing withdrawals since I am only swallowing one 5mg pill every 8 hrs instead of railing it. There is a lot of anxiety associated with this because it is agonizing not getting that full breath and worrying about the potential of having done serious and irreversible damage to my lungs. I am going to a pulmonologist tomorrow and plan on getting a ct scan. Hopefully I will continue feeling better until I'm back to normal.
 
^ This, since you have only done this for about a month, and all the tests are looking good so far, I doubt you did any irreversible damage to yourself. The body is fairly amazing when it comes to its ability to heal from things.

Just try to relax now, as you've taken the proper steps medically, and are going to cease usage, so things should be just fine. :)
 
Thanks. I appreciate you guys trying to help me any way you can. I visited the pulmonologist today and will be doing a CT scan in a couple of days. I should know how my lungs look next week. This doctor today told me not to worry. He is also not a BSer because he basically told my dad, who had seen him before after he aspirated from a colonoscopy, that he could die while he was still in the hospital and that the worst thing happened to him. So to have a guy like that tell me not to worry was comforting. As for my symptoms, I still feel like something is inflamed or closed up somewhere, but everyday I'm becoming more optimistic and minimally improving. I am really surprised by this medication I'm taking. When I was railing, it was super potent, but for the past 4 days of taking 5mg orally every 8 hrs, it barely soothes my pain and offers no buzz at all. My pain doctor wants to move me to a suboxone patch, but I'm worried that he is trying to give me that for addiction and not for pain. I only had a surgery a month ago, so now my pain isn't being managed well.
 
It sounds like anxiety is playing a large role here (if not an explanation for all of this). People who haven't snorted opana for a month often report the exact same symptoms - waking up in the middle of the night feeling like you can't breathe, never feeling like you can get a 'full' breath, feeling something is seriously wrong and worrying about it, etc.

If you search around for terms like "air hunger" and anxiety, or shortness of breath and anxiety, you will find a lot of people reporting the same problems. Here is one discussion board thread where several people report similar symptoms.

The fact that so far, all of your tests have come up clear support this and it seems coincidental that you happened to be engaging in an activity that COULD cause lung problems while experiencing anxiety-related shortness of breathe and panic-related symptoms.

I've experienced similar problems with feeling like I can't get a full breath and I found that the more I focused on it and tried to force air in, the worse it got. If you yawn, you can usually get that satisfying 'deep breath' feeling and the best thing you can do is take your mind off it. I always found that when I properly distracted myself and breathed normally, not forcing in more air in a futile attempt to feel satisfied, that it eventually went away.

I am not sure if this is convincing or you are offended at the prospect of it being 'all in your head', but if I'm right, then trying to find a medical explanation is just going to lead to frustration while this all continues. Your best bet is to speak with someone about getting the anxiety under control.

A lot of people with similar anxiety problems are diagnosed with chronic pain syndromes like fibromyalgia and other diffuse, relatively test-negative conditions. What are you taking the opana for? Has chronic pain been around for a long time?
 
I had a surgery on my chest. I had a bar in there to correct a concaved sternum. They pulled the bar out a month ago and discovered that I had been forming calcifications around the bar the 2 years I had it in, so an anticipated 30 min operation took 3.5 hours. I still have another bar in my chest, the inferior placed bar was only taken out because it was bothering me. The surgeon assistant only prescribed me 20 5/320 hydrocordone, so I ended up going to a pain clinic, where I got 120 IR opana 5mg. I ingested about 15 of them before I began looking around for other ROA. I was even about to call the doc and tell him how shitty they were, because the hydrocordone were doing the job better. Plus these give you the nastiest withdrawals when you don't take them. This dr wants to move me to a buponex path, anybody that can chime in on that? I would be worried about overdoing my opioid receptors with a medication like that, and would prefer hydrocordone again, but he won't. He is the only dr I am not going to tell of this incident.
 
I was just thinking about the roxane I was snorting. Does anybody know if it has silica in it? I am pretty sure this is the generic version of the Opana IR and not the ER that has the silica in it, but does anybody know otherwise? Is the microcyrstalline cellulose going to do damage to my lungs if I snorted 120 pills?
 
^ if you know what the pills are, it shouldn't be too difficult to track down ALL of the inactive ingredients. I don't know if it has that pills, but this thread will probably be useful.
 
I would NOT go on buprenorphine for chronic pain. The very idea makes me shudder. It just isn't that effective for severe pain.

Oxycodone is generally the most effective I've found. Followed by hydromorphone, but I hated being on that. I've only had oxymorphone once, and to tell you the truth, I don't remember how it helped my pain because I was too stoned. ;)

I'd rather have Kratom for pain mitigation than buprenorphine. Dead serious (Kratom is actually effective for me).

If your doctor is concerned about addiction, ask him about Nucynta. It's better at mitigating pain than buprenorphine and doesn't cause as much euphoria as the other classical opiates. It's still CII though.
 
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