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Clearly, benzodiazepines significantly reduce the effect and value of the psychedelic experience (to the point that taking psychedelics on any appreciable amount of benzodiazepine is a waste of said psychedelic). But what about opiates/opioids?
Because of the gut wrenching emptiness that benzodiazepines create in me, along with the disinhibition, I have often taken psychedelics while on large doses of benzos. This emptiness and bravado leads to massive dose escalations, which has landed me into serious hot water, like the time i took 500mg of DCK with no dissociative tolerance or another time where i took 350mg of 4-aco-dmt and 80mg of 4-ho-met. In these massive doses, the benzo is ultimately overpowered, and you end up having an intense psychedelic experience (with the 350mg of 4-aco-dmt i was still utterly terrified and sure I was going to die, despite the 12mg of etizolam).
But what about opioids? Never am i compelled, high on opioids, to consume psychedelics. But how if i did? Any thoughts as to what extent they reduce the effect, weaken insight or moderate anxiety ?
Granted at a high dose (such as IV heroin at the peak of an acid trip) the effects would be significantly dampened. But how about a more moderate dose/conventional ROA?
Because of the gut wrenching emptiness that benzodiazepines create in me, along with the disinhibition, I have often taken psychedelics while on large doses of benzos. This emptiness and bravado leads to massive dose escalations, which has landed me into serious hot water, like the time i took 500mg of DCK with no dissociative tolerance or another time where i took 350mg of 4-aco-dmt and 80mg of 4-ho-met. In these massive doses, the benzo is ultimately overpowered, and you end up having an intense psychedelic experience (with the 350mg of 4-aco-dmt i was still utterly terrified and sure I was going to die, despite the 12mg of etizolam).
But what about opioids? Never am i compelled, high on opioids, to consume psychedelics. But how if i did? Any thoughts as to what extent they reduce the effect, weaken insight or moderate anxiety ?
Granted at a high dose (such as IV heroin at the peak of an acid trip) the effects would be significantly dampened. But how about a more moderate dose/conventional ROA?